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Anarcho-capitalism works.
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Anarcho-capitalism works.
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yeah feudalism worked pretty well
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>>1304068
Sure thing kiddo.
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On paper?
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>>1304068

When has it?
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>>1304068
i looks good on paper but doesn't work in reality
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>>1304163
It doesn't even look good on paper. Most people can reason that the end result will be a heavily stratified, feudal society. Even ancaps like Hans Herman Hoppe recognize this.
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>>1304182
He's an odiot with downs, don't listen to him
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>>1304182

Nonsense. The most likely outcome is relatively egalitarian. After all, the differences of wealth in war-torn sub-saharan African regions are relatively minor, with the biggest gap being between the roving marauders who have little, and the people they prey upon, who have even less.

Feudalism requires way more social organization than you'd have in ancapland.
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Anarcho-capitalism is inherently impossible because capitalism requires the legal enforcement of private property and contracts.
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>>1304207
>Anarcho-capitalism is inherently impossible because capitalism requires the legal enforcement of private property and contracts.

There would be legal enforcement of privat property and contracts, there just would not be monopoly on it.
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>>1304222

Yes, the "feuding Albanian families" model has historically worked so well for keeping property rights secure.
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>>1304222
And who would prevent this monopoly?
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>>1304068
where? in somalia?
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>>1304207
That is why physical removal is needed, to get rid of communists and homosexuals that try to undermine the ancap utopia
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>>1304232
Gun owners,physically removing people that dont want to live in a true free society.
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>>1304279
Why didn't they do this when governments themselves emerged in capitalism? How can you claim there is a monopoly when there are multiple types of governments?
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>>1304279
What's to stop a group of rich people from uniting their powers and PMC forces to take control of smaller communities?
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>>1304068
not an argument
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>>1304207
to play devil's advocate, do you not think they're would be privatized police enforcement/justice system?
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>>1304222
I literally can not believe people think like this. Non-universal law is not law. The basics of law presume that it applies to everyone equally and all agree to abide by the precepts. What you are describing is warlordism.
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>>1304279
And what's stopping other gun owners from ganging up and trying to impose their own different idea of what society should be like on them?
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>>1304068
Not an argument
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>>1304316
>Why didn't they do this when governments themselves emerged in capitalism?
They were mostly unedcated,Things like the whisckey revolution also happened.
>>1304343
>What's to stop a group of rich people from uniting their powers and PMC forces to take control of smaller communities?
Nothing.But it would just be too expensive and unprofitable.It would just be easier to just trade with them.If the rich guy does not favour the ancap values, he would have been physically removed.
>>1304421
>And what's stopping other gun owners from ganging up and trying to impose their own different idea of what society should be like on them?
There would no be other idea of society,as degenerates,commies and faggots would have been physcally removed with antelation
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>>1304068
>Anarcho-capitalism works.
In what country has it worked?
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>>1304447
>In what country
Nice oxymoron
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>>1304439
>There would no be other idea of society,as degenerates,commies and faggots would have been physcally removed with antelation
That's not even logical. It is from anarchy that concepts of society were born.
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>>1304460
>It is from anarchy that concepts of society were born
And they can be surpressed.
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>>1304463
How can they be suppressed when there is no unitary power to suppress them?
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>>1304465
Just shooting them down( the people) and forbiding them.Ideas that oppose the libertarian order must be removed
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>>1304467
My question still stands Anarkiddie.
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>anarcho-capitalism
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>>1304469
No.Removal can happen without a goverment.With liberty gang bands that surpress anti liberty principles like Marxism or faggotry
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>>1304473
What motivation would "liberty gang bands" even have to exist?
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>liberty
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>>1304477
To defend liberty
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>>1304473
And these Liberty bands would have a monopoly on removing people you find undesirable? Would that removal be violent?
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>>1304481
Aren't they just a government then? What differentiates them?
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>>1304481
Killing people isn't very profitable. It would be better to trade with the commies and degenerates, wouldn't it? :^)
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>>1304485
>And these Liberty bands would have a monopoly on removing people you find undesirable?
No
> Would that removal be violent?
Most of the time
>>1304488
They dont hold a monopoly, and act indepently
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>>1304481
Laughable. Anarcho-Capitalism truly is the fedora ideology of this century.
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>>1304490
No,as those people are a direct thread to freedom.That is why removal is needed
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>>1304439
What if a group of liberty gang bangers decides to implement their own idea of freedom? Obviously it's more profitable to use a gun to steal money for someone than it is to risk your life to give liberty to other people. Will this new society rely on massive book burnings and public purges? Who will direct it? Will it rely on a capitalist vanguard? Who will pay for it? What about the capitalists who publish communist writing? Are you punishing them for trying to make money and sell a product? This is all very retarded
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>>1304493
>ctrl+f
>arguments
>result 0
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>>1304491
You just said that the Liberty bands would be the ones removing undesirables. If they're the only ones doing that, isn't it a monopoly?
>>1304494
The killing of people for their opinions is a direct danger to liberty. :^)
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>>1304497
You too.
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Anarcho-capitalism is by far the single most idiotic thing to come out of the anarchism thought spectrum, and that's fucking saying something; even dumber than anarcho-primitivism.
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>>1304495
>What if a group of liberty gang bangers decides to implement their own idea of freedom?
There is only 1 definition of freedom.If they disagree they will have to be removed as well
> Obviously it's more profitable to use a gun to steal money for someone than it is to risk your life to give liberty to other people.
Your point?
> Will this new society rely on massive book burnings
Only on books that corrupt people's ideas
> and public purges?
Nah, just private ones
> Who will direct it?
Liberty fighters, leaded by Hoppe and his appointed generals
> Will it rely on a capitalist vanguard?
Dont know what you mean by this
>Who will pay for it?
Mexico/ individuals
>What about the capitalists who publish communist writing?
REMOVAL
> Are you punishing them for trying to make money and sell a product?
Yes,not everything is about money
> This is all very retarded
Not an argument
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>>1304510
You're trolling right now. There's no way someone can be so retarded.
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>>1304499
>is a direct danger to liberty
No,as they are hurting the principle of life of other peoples through intelectual corruption.Freedomvaint free,
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>>1304513
NOT
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ARGUMENT
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>>1304519
You're mum isn't an argument kiddo
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>>1304207
Is there a reason a civilization couldn't have laws enforcing rights and contracts without imposing taxes or regulations on trade?
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>>1304510
So Hoppe will be in charge of a group of people to watch over society and enforce liberty? That sounds like a government
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>>1304523
(You)
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>>1304182
are you some kind of super-dumb?
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>>1304531
No.It is not a goverment,as he doesnt have a bureocracy behind him, just volunteer fighters that follow his wise command to keep degenerates in check
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>>1304539
Who will organize these fighters? Who's going to pay them? Who's going to arm them? Who's going to recruit them?
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>>1304539
A bureaucracy is defined as a group of unelected officials. Would these volunteer liberty gang bangers be elected? If not, they are bureaucrats
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>>1304553
>Would these volunteer liberty gang bangers be elected?
Yes by Hoppe.
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>>1304068
haha no.
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>>1304552
>Who will organize these fighters?
Officials
> Who's going to pay them?
People
> Who's going to arm them?
People/companies
> Who's going to recruit them?
People, through campaings paid by other individuals
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>>1304558
So then it's a dictatorship then since they are being elected by one individual? It's a government, then
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>>1304566
Officials? Volunteers? Sounds like you're making a new bureaucracy.
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>>1304569
>It's a government, then
No, it rules noothing.Is just kind of a mob.Mobs aint goverments
>>1304577
Yes, every institution has an structure.McDonalds is not a bureocracy, and it has officals and workers.The same will go with Hoppe's Removal army
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The only system that works is the one that operates without being named.
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>>1304585
Oh. So you just hate the word bureaucracy without really understanding what it means. That's alright, my man. You just gotta say it.
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>>1304593
>The only system that works is the one that operates without being named.
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>>1304601
He obviously means the tao, pleb. You'll never be a sage if you keep acting in this fashion (or acting at all, leaving shit undone left and right).
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>>1304599
>A bureaucracy (/bjuːˈrɒkrəsi/) is "a body of non-elective government officials" and/or "an administrative policy-making group".Historically, bureaucracy was government administration managed by departments staffed with non-elected officials.Today, bureaucracy is the administrative system governing any large institution.
The volunteer army doesnt create rules,just keeps the system going,like a police force/mob, and is elected. It is not a bureocracy
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>>1304608
>He obviously means the tao, pleb
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>>1304611
I'm sorry to tell you this, but you don't want anarchism, you just want a dictatorship lead by an "anarchist" that just doesn't call themselves a government
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>>1304643
>I'm sorry to tell you this, but you don't want anarchism, you just want a dictatorship lead by an "anarchist" that just doesn't call themselves a government
No,I want to replace the current way that goverments work.ancap is not really anarchism, even Rothbard said it,it would just be decentralization push to its fullest extend
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>Liberty gang bands that supress anti liberty principles

Holy shit
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