How did jungle asians create such wonders while European was running around naked and worshiping trees?
>>1302563
The Hindu gods are merciful.
>>1302563
>running around naked and worshiping trees?
>12th fucking century
This is 12th century Europe
>>1302811
So is this
>>1302814
And this too
the inside isn't bad either
>>1302835
This is Angkor Wat the most beautiful thing in all Cambodia
>>1302811
Is that some kind of a shed?
>>1302814
That's 19th century France faggot.
>>1302839
its fucking ugly...
>>1302878
Google suggests it to me because it was "originally built in the 12th century"
To what extent it has been renovated, I do not know.
This one is a random small and Belgian castle which wasn't nearly important enough to renovate, it's still better than >>1302839 somehow
>>1302895
>Italian
>Frenchmen
>Englishmen
>snowniggers
actual snowniggers have no culture i'll give you that, but go fuck yourself
>>1302907
The old 12th century castle was almost completely razed, the 19th century French guy rebuilt it in late 15th French style but with a load of fantasy neo-Gothic additions.
That small random castle is Gravensteen, it's pretty neat actually.
>>1302915
But anon this also looks like it looked great before getting destroyed
>>1302563
Here's a link to the article since OP didn't bother
https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2016/jun/11/new-technology-reveals-lost-cities-in-the-angkor-region-video
Let me guess, the guardian is exaggerating a bit?
>>1303292
bingo
>>1302896
it's not
obviously you have just been brainwashed by the unrealistic beauty standards of western architecture :^)
I dont understand why this has triggered people so hard, that they end up posting western monuments. Whats the point, can't we admire both.
>1302839
Sounds like someone thats never been. Angkor Wat looks great on a sunny day and you can see it's reflections. All the temples in the area are neat as well.
We should just delete this board. It's nothing but shit.
>>1303373
Actually I have been it's great but
>How did jungle asians create such wonders while European was running around naked and worshiping trees?
you think i'm going to say good things about your monuments after you say this ? lmao no fuck you
everyone gets to spew as much hate as they want about white peoplen, but if you ever tell them they're wrong "boohoo it's nothing but shit and we should delete the board"
>>1303292
Why would they ever do that?
>>1303408
This board is fucking shit. OP's post is fucking shit and the thread is fucking shit, and so is every other thread. This board doesn't have a single redeeming feature. It's all shit. It's nothing but shit and you know it.
>>1303408
OP and I are not the same person mate. And besides why'd you take the such low hanging bait.
>>1302563
It's actively painful to see any architecture that isn't modernist truth to materials. Pseud pretense bullshit from anywhere in the world is fucking annoying
>>1303416
There's a ton of good stuff, you're just an intellectually lazy piece of trash
>>1302839
It looks like Lost Izalith from Dark Souls. I wonder if there are any demons there.
>>1303489
Wrong. It's all shit. Deep down you know this place is shit and that you're wasting your time here. You're too weak to leave, you don't have the will, so instead to delude yourself into thinking you're in good company. You've blinded yourself to the reality that is shit.
Either that or you're genuinely retarded and just can't tell how bad it is.
>>1303616
Just kill yourself alraedy.
>>1302563
If 12th century Europeans were running around naked much, it's because they wanted to at the time.
>>1303664
Looks like I hit a little too close to home.
>world's largest empire in 12th century
I think they mean city, not empire
"Running around naked and worshiping trees" is obviously a reference to the celts who were reported to occasionally enter battle naked and revered the oak tree. The Kingdom of Funan in Cambodia actually arose a few decades after the Gallic wars ended this era in modern day France and about the same time as the Roman invasion of Britain, arguably technological changes had already begun to take place in the decades before this so I am not sure whether your statement is all that accurate.
There would be another wave of economic change across the rest of Europe, extending as far as Russia, from the time of Charlemagne onwards which introduced the heavy plow and 3 field crop rotation. By the 12th century cathedrals were being built that arguably rivalled Angkor Wat in sophistication and grandeur.
Regardless, this is a valid question, from our perspective the wide fields of Europe seem much more hospitable than the jungles of South East Asia. However perceptions can be deceiving, were you to travel back in time, the land surrounding Angkor Wat would also be as intensively farmed.
http://www.livescience.com/1781-urban-sprawl-doomed-angkor-wat.html
Because they existed in very different environments it is impossible to judge which collective population group "accomplished more" and I don't particularly care. The individuals responsible for advancing agriculture in these regions were surely exceptional people though.
can we not have a dick waiving contest.
>>1304047
:-DDDDDDDD
>>1303502
there are demons wherever man goes
>>1303396
>talk massive shit about Europeans
>Europeans prove you wrong
>...
>"UGHHHHH JUST DELETE THIS /pol/ WITH DATES BOARD FFS, FUCKING WHITE PRIVILEGE RACISTS"
Real classy there. You from /r/asianmasculinity by chance? For what it's worth, I think the East Asian stuff looks really cool too. You are just a projecting, insecure bitch
>>1304193
>huge archaeological find in Cambodia
>OP makes a bait thread instead of actually discussing the find
>retards take the bait
Clearly this is a wonderful thread and the only reason somebody would complain about it is because they hate white people.
>>1304220
>retards take the bait
yes i agree we should simply ignore all the blatant hate, and just let them talk shit and be downright disrespectful as much as they want without saying anything to them
>>1304250
I have a theory that a lot of it is by East Asians and their diaspora, specifically chinese. I'm pretty sure they view white people like racist white people view black people.
You see this sort of thing in threads even remotely dealing with east asian/chinese history.
>WE WERE ALREADY A CIVILISED PEOPLE
>WHITE PEOPLE WERE STILL LIVING IN CAVES AND CLOTHED IN FUR SKINS WHILE WE WERE ENLIGHTENED
>>1302811
>pisa
>italy
Op is talking about white europeans not half moors.
>>1304275
yep it's definitely asian-americans doing it
the most butthurt minority in the entire world easily
blacks ? arabs ? pakis ? armenians ? obscure balkan ethnic groups ?
they got NOTHING on asian-americans
if asians ever succeed in taking power in USA somehow, even just one city or something, i guarantee you they'll start murdering and raping and torturing everybody worse than unit 731
>>1304297
Lol, do they not realize Japs, Chinese do not consider Asian-Americans as one of their own anymore?
I think the only Asian group that does are the fucking Flips, but then they're excusable since they have cultural ties with the US.
>>1304297
>not realizing their home governments marginalize them, too
I don't think this person is smart enough to be anything of a 5th column. Though I kind of doubt they're actually being serious.
>>1304275
They can also just hate black people like racist white people hate black people. It's pretty common. It just depends on where a person sees their "in-group," who are the outsiders, and how convicted they are in this line of thought.
>>1304320
Yes but I imagine the ones on 4chan hate white people more.
Vedic and Buddhist influence from India.
>>1304297
>asians
>calling anyone cuckbois
I haven't laughed this much in weeks
>>1302563
>How did jungle asians create such wonders while European was running around naked and worshiping trees?
Good sir by then we had started the running around and stealing other peoples lands phase.
![DSCF1289[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zqe8Acr.jpg "DSCF1289[1].jpg")
>>1302839
could use some pressure washing
>>1304441
>other people
>your cousin in the neighboring fiefdom
>>1304449
>people who were victims of racism can't be racist themselves
>if you are privileged you should accept every injustice that comes your way
just like one of the characters in an ayn rand novel
>>1304297
>Asian-Americans just need to become a fifth column in America and become insider informants and sleeper agents for Pan-Asian movements. Our loyalty will always be only to Asia, never for the sinking ship that is the USA.
Isn't this why internment happened? People were afraid that the Japanese-Americans would secretly remain loyal to Japan and provide them inside information during the war?
This thread turned to shit fast lol.
This board is starting to turn into "the best place to discuss video games is outside /v/"
>>1304596
no, FDR was just a big ole racist determined to keep the yellow man down.
Literal holocaust
>>1304596
Asians weren't like average_asian_american.png back then, internment happened due to paranoia and ignorance.
However nowadays it is different. The US is one of the most tolerant countries in the world, white liberals go nuts over the slightest bit of racism in a way that the majority in other countries never would. The problem is white liberals never know when to say "no" and minorities are increasingly acting more and more like spoiled children. Rather than being forced to confront difficult questions and look for real answers they simply believe whatever they want to believe.
>>1304635
>Rather than being forced to confront difficult questions and look for real answers they simply believe whatever they want to believe.
sounds like white people
>>1304113
Are they demons like this?
>>1304642
You aren't even trying anymore.
>>1304275
wtf man. I'm asian and I don't hate white people.
sure we make fun of white people sometimes, but we do that with every other race too. I've never even heard of any asians blatantly hate white people. shit asians are probably the biggest westaboos.
>>1304037
>serious answer to a bait thread
>gets ignored
I feel sorry for you man. Your answer was a pretty valid one.
>>1304449
Your bait game is bretty weak bruh, you need to step it up
>>1304449
>your cousin in the neighboring fiefdom
I did not know that France and Syria are in fact neighbors nor that french Noblity was that closely related with the Arab rulers of 12th century Syria. The more you know...
>>1302563
>worshipping trees
Trees are great though.
>>1304297
Yes, /his/ in particular has a couple dedicated chinese autists.
>>1304646
what the fuck is this
>>1303502
Lost Izalith was based off of angkor wat, the more you know
Southeast Asia is one of the most underrated areas of the world historically. It's barely taught in world history classes and in many cases does not merit its own course in universities. It's glossed over to a ridiculous extent despite the high demand for spices and other trade items from the region for centuries. In terms of civilization, there were complex, populous and technologically advanced societies with incredible political histories. The histories of Java, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand and Burma are filled with ambition, decline, civil war, shifting geopolitical borders, diverse peoples, migrations, conquests and archaeological wonders yet many of those countries treated like a footnote. In other cases the region is treated like an appendage of India and China which contributed nothing on its own.
It's not even really my main field of interest but I find it annoying how ignored the region is and how little people care about it. This might sound trite but Southeast Asia is not like vast swathes of Subsaharan Africa or Aboriginal Australia where hardly anything worthwhile was going on. There really was a lot happening in this region and it really had a big impact on world history or at least regional (East Asian) history in premodern times.
>>1305640
Chaos eater. Probably the most freaky looking enemy in all of Dark Souls (1). The part of the game they're in is essentially hell. They always stand out as being the most Lovedraftian enemy in that game.
>>1305707
Personally I always got Aztec and Mesoamerican type of vines from Izalith. The catacombs seem to take hints of classical architecture with maybe a little Aztec.
>>1305738
It's mostly because they were fairly isolated from Europe. We didn't really get there until the advent of modern medicine with a few small exceptions.
Give it a few more hundred years for them to considered relevent enough to be studied by western academic institutions.
>>1305781
Spain got there already by the late 1500s and was active in SEAsian politics via their Philippine Colonies + Tribal Christian Flip Allies.
>>1305738
And it still is now desu anon. Look at the importance of states like chinkapore on the geopolitical scene. The whole region is practically an economic powerhouse waiting to happen.
>>1304635
>The US is one of the most tolerant
>tolerant
>kek
In what fucking universe?
>>1304596
No that was a product of paranoia and pure racism.
>>1304433
>Implying whites aren't the biggest cucks in the world
>Cuck porn was invented in the US
>Fetish completely unique to the West
>>1304303
Shows what you fucking know about those people, which is jack shit.
>>1302839
looks like shit to be honest desu senpai
>>1302839
TravelingCanucks.com
>>1303970
Pretty sure the world's largest empire in the 12th century was Mongolia desu.
>>1304297
To be fair, at least Asians aren't blowing themselves up. Their butthurt is confined to angsty and confused teenagers.
>>1302563
Only in vain can one measure the greatness of a civilization based on such superficial traits as the the scale of its architecture, or else we would be forced to concede that the Aztecs in the 16th century were a more advanced and civilized people than the Spanish, Tenochtitlan being by most estimates the largest city in the world at the time, with magnificent temples floating as though by magic in the center of a vast lake. No, architecture is at best epiphenomenal. Far more meaningful and profound is the content of a people's intellectual achievements--their literature, their sciences, the sophistication of their mathematics and the depths of their philosophical thought, as well as their virtue and valor, for these directly reflect the innermost spiritual state of cultural life in a way that can never be adequately captured by its material products. Incidentally, this is also why I consider the Franks or the Italians of the 13th century to be far superior to their Eastern Roman contemporaries, who, despite the astonishing magnificence of the Hagia Sophia, produced almost nothing of lasting literary or philosophical worth and who, at the Siege of Constantinople, abandoned the largest and most fortified city in the world to a few thousand confused, encircled, and illiterate peasants, fleeing their lofty towers, as the Cistercian monks tell us, at the mere sight of Frankish ballistas.
>>1306325
Nonetheless, the sort of revisionism that would elevate medieval Cambodia to a higher place of honor than Germany or Italy based on such superficial considerations must come as no great surprise from the modern globalized West, a civilization that itself embodies the triumph of matter over spirit to an extent unimaginable in any other historic culture.
>>1303408
it's bait you fucking mouth breathing cracker, even flyover state hicks know 12th century Europeans weren't idiots running around naked worshipping trees
This board was neat at first but it's now a weird /b/
/pol/ /v/ hybrid
>OP posts obvious low hanging bait and misses opportunity to discuss Khmer history
>thread rapidly derails as /pol/ migrants take obvious bait
people here have this weird obsession with making sure their cultural products aren't seen as lesser (whatever that even means in the context of technological development)
>>1302839
>the most beautiful thing in Cambodia
>not the Tuol Sleng extermination camp
>>1306381
Nah it's more like /lit/, /r9k/ and /tv/ in its demographic.
>>1306373
except baltic cunts
>>1303616
Which is a good place then?
>>1302563
biodiversity. Europeans had a difficult time, due to the lack of food and crappy environment. "jungle asians" is a stupid description of a people that had better availability of environmental resources.
"Europeans" or Neanderthals, had to scavenge for resources due to a lacking environment. This evolutionary pressure, made their brains adapt to a stress that was not known to people of a different climate.
People worship what makes them feel better about themselves. They may not understand that their belief in something bigger than themselves, is about themselves, but they do understand that these actions make them feel better.
I feel that humanity advances at the loss of the individual.
>>1304907
The only successful Crusade to the holy land was the first, everything else was more or less a disaster
>>1302915
fucking Viollet-Le-Duc...
>it's a "europeans get their jimmies rustled so they spend the rest of the thread glorifying their stuff" thread
>mfw I wanted to see dem jungle ninjas temple
Europe is devoid of mystery, magic and charms. Just fucking accept it for fucks sake, europe a BORING SHIT. A BORING SHIT.
>>1306641
You are naive orientalist aren't you?
>>1306641
t. weeaboo
>>1302839
I've built sand castles that looked better than that ugly chink shit
>>1306641
Lol this is why every successful fantasy book and video game (including Asian ones) is based on medieval Europe, because it's so boring and with no mystique. I'm sorry that you bias doesn't allow you to appreciate it. Your loss though, not mine.
wew europoors sure are triggered in this thread
>>1306685
>hurrdurr I was only pretending to be retarded
>>1306685
wew chinks sure are triggered in real life
>>1306685
Euros don't like to be reminded that all civilizations fall and they are no exception
>tfw today I'll be attending Latin mass in my church with its exquisite neo-gothic style architecture
>read superior western literature and listen to superior western classical music after lunch
>study calculus and physics, two western inventions
>become an engineer to invent stuff Asians will copy in the future and produce cheaply in their sweat shops
Feels good
>>1306706
>become an engineer to invent stuff
literally every engineer thinks they are going to be hot shit
>>1306709
t. Barista
>>1302811
Lithuanians were still worshiping trees in the 14th century.
>>1306706
>tfw today I'll be attending Latin mass in my church with its exquisite neo-gothic style architecture
i.e. Things that do not happen.
Reminder that there's literally nothing wrong with either dweling in the jungle or running around naked and worshipping nature, and that civilization ruined humanity.
>>1306729
>>1305810
Eh...Singapore is more of an exception rather than the rule, and actually it kinda tells a lot about the region in its current state. The tiniest country in Southeast Asia is the most powerful economically and most significant globally. Granted any power that controlled the major port on the Sunda or Malacca Straits historically was a guaranteed powerhouse and I suppose Singapore is sort of the heir to that tradition.
Admittedly Vietnam, the Philippines and Indonesia are coming along but Myanmar still has a long way to go. Brunei has the economic prowess but lacks diversification and is totally backwards under their laughable government. Thailand is somewhere in the middle while the rest are developing but also still have a long way to go.
I agree that there is a lot of potential in the region but I can see why it is kind of looked down upon as a backwater today. I feel like they are particularly underrated historically though given their long historical record of civilization and overall significance.
Here's another famous architectural wonder of the region: prambanan in Java.
>>1302895
Looks like you ran out of arguments pretty quick. Go back to making facebook videos where you cry into the camera about how evil Christoph Columbus has treated 'your people' or some shit.
>>1305738
>Ayutthaya was one of the great economic and cultural centers of the world until the Burmese burned it down
>>1304286
I know this is just shitposting, but you might be interested to know that italy was way whiter in the 12th century, then the roman empire ever was. after the fall and the goth period the byzantines took it back for very short time and after that, the next germanic tribe came. the langobards vwere here to stay and mixed extensivly.
the time of the dark ages is actually a really interesting periode
>>1304694
>wtf man. I'm asian and I don't hate white people.
>sure we make fun of white people sometimes, but we do that with every other race too. I've never even heard of any asians blatantly hate white people. shit asians are probably the biggest westaboos.
100% this. The only people I know who think 'we have to get even' for opression they never actively experienced are black supremacists, Mexicans and white cucks. Chinese and Japs while not PC don't feel victimized by the evil imperialist white man and look into the future to get shit done instead of looking back and crying about how they have the right for racist hate now, because your ancestors mistreated theirs.
Look at fucking Vietnam or Southkorea for example. Modern countries. Way more fucked up by American imperialism than any African or Arab country in the past, but they don't behave like whiny bitches.
>>1306781
>Chinese
>crying about how they have the right for racist hate now, because your ancestors mistreated theirs.
Umm, what?
Chinese not only consider westerners upstart barbarians, but put incredible importance on ancestor worship
>>1303616
They're too weak to leave? You're the one criticizing it as hard as humanly possible yet still sticking around...
>>1302907
> a random small and Belgian castle
mate that was the administrative centre of the County of Flanders. The Count himself stayed there.
>>1306784
That's a fucking broad commonplace about Chinese culture 500 years ago , you are so fucking retarded to feel smug about that incomplete catastrophe of crude wikipedia knowledge you aquired.
Figuratively no Chinese will walk up to you and blame you for colonialism based on the colour of your skin. I lived with dozens of these fuckers together in a hostel. There's no victimization culture about that evil modernization of western powers in society or the media. If you think otherwise prove it.
>>1302839
I've actually been there. There are numerous connecting "castles" and the sculpting in the main courtyard is outrageous. Actually all of the sculpting is pretty damn good.
Also, I had to take a giant shit in a roach hole in the middle of a Buddhist colony while I was there. Super legit desu
>>1307258
Nah there's still plenty of western imperialist grievance in China. People (gets stronger the older they are) will go on and on about the 8 nation alliance, opium wars, Korean war, etc. etc. How could there not be with commie public ed?
>>1307258
You don't know fucking shit about the Chinese. Plenty of them are sick and tired of Westerners pissing all over their country, just because they're not open with their hatred and contempt doesn't mean it's not there. In China, particularly in the countryside, many Chinese men will jump on the opportunity to beat in a Westerners head if given the excuse.
>>1306455
The Fourth Crusade was very profitable for the Venetians though.
>>1307496
The Venetians didn't really do much crusading tho
>>1306386
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTsXHXMkJA
IM REALLY FEELING IT!
>>1302907
>>1302915
Riddle me this /his/
A lot of the castles from the early to high middle ages look pretty fucking small. Considering that armies around that time were usually mustered in the thousands, if not tens of thousands, how would these be of any use? They look like they could house and feed only a couple hundred at most. Would it not have been better to meet your enemy on the field with 8,000 men than to weather a prolonged siege with 500?
>>1302563
butthurt asian who doesn't know anything.
europeans were proper dressed could write did science and sruff.
look how subhuman asians live now
>>1311099
Easy: they fucking held up your army.
>Be army of 8000.
>Approach small 500 man castle
>Take the time to settle down and besiege castle
Delayed. Enjoy that Guy's lord coming down on your ass.
Or
>Pass by 500 man castle.
Enjoy 500 men at your rear. Doing stuff.
Also attacking fortified places in general is fuck difficult. You're talking about castles n shiet set up in strategic positions like hills and mountain tops. And that's not even taking into consideration walls.
