Which nation has the most honourable military history ?
America
India
Vietnam, beat
>Chink
>Mongol
>French
>Dutch East India
>Murican
>Thai
>Cambodian
Republic of Ireland
European peacekeepers with no colonial past
Loved by Lebanese
Butchered by Africans
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
>>1301304
>Ireland
HAHAHAHAHAH GOOD ONE
>>1301295
Germany
>>1301304
lol
>>1301306
>Praising Britain on /his/
Good luck, friend!
>>1301315
Bunch of fucking lefty revisionists are they?
define "honorable"
>>1301304
Speaking strictly about the nation then perhaps but it is open to interpretation.
And if we're talking about the irish people in general, then they also played a role in the British Empires conquests. Basically shooting savages for the most part
>>1301299
>Literally had a warrior caste from ancient times
>Pretty much destroyed Alexander's army, would have destroyed the rest if he continued on
>Different Kshatriya ran dynasties throughout their history
>Rajputs were based
>Mughals
>>1301320
>nation
You mean state
>>1301317
No, most people here just hate Britain. Massive Francoboos.
Also, hi Clarkson!
>>1301299
POO
>>1301325
Indeed, my bad
USA
>always good guys
>never lost
Burgundy ;~;)7
>>1301302
>got fucked by all of them and could only fight back after enduring decades to millennia of cuckholdry, by which was enough time for them to obtain the weapons used by their conquerors
Viets are just treacherous subjects that's all. Hardly honorable. Not to mention exterminating their own ethnicities just to settle regional disputes.
>>1301295
It really depends on your definition of honor as most nations committed horrendous acts of betrayal, pillaging and massacre instead of 'fighting fairly'. If we are talking about how our in the most traditional sense, it'd have to be some ancient country where they treated prisoners mercifully and still had agreements and duels between leaders before a battle. I'd say one of the Ancient Greek states or Shu Han from the three kingdoms period.
>>1301334
top zozzle
>>1301299
Battle of Cochin :^).
>>1301302
t. phuong goc nguyen
>>1301324
t. Beta
>>1301334
top zozzle
>>1301295
Italy, when they were Rome back then.
All though I suppose this is only a matter of opinion thread.. But if I had to be as unbiased as possible it would be Rome.
/thread
>>1301406
>/thread
>>1301334
zozzle
>>1301334
Johnny come lately,
picking on little countries,
>>1301428
>>/thread
>>1301302
Still got under French occupation for an entire century
Kingdom of Prussia
>>1301306
>Lost a battle to monkies with sharpened sticks
More like the most laughable
>>1301295
Honor is for losers.
>>1301504
t. annoying horse archer player from Mount and Blade: Warband
Kill yourself for always delaying the round just because you don't want to ever get near the enemy who happens to be infantry.
>>1301490
1806 alone is enough to nullify all their previous and following deeds
>>1301504
t. Brit
>honour
Isn't funny that the people who bang on about honour all the time are the losers in history?
>b-b-but at least I had muh honour!
>>1301334
>never lost
What about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Korea, Iraq (the second time around), or the War of 1812 ?
>>1301527
Except they redeemed themselves at Waterloo when they saved Wellington's ass.
>>1301295
If you're not fighting with underhanded tactics then what the fuck are you doing.
>>1301541
Not him, but:
>Vietnam
We lost.
>Afghanistan
Is mostly functional as it's own thing, so we won. Or at least tied, we certainly didn't lose though.
>Korea
We accomplished our war goal of preserving South Korea, a clear victory. Although the lack of the elimination of North Korea often causes people to incorrectly believe that we tied or lost.
>Iraq War 2
We won the invasion, and then the peace, but the Iraqi government stopped accepting our help and inflamed sectarian tensions until it spiraled into the caliphate moving in. They're now removing said caliphate with our help, and doing a good job of it. So overall it looks like we're gonna win there too.
>War of 1812
Status Quo Antebellum, so a tie, but we got international respect and Britain stopped fucking with us. Not a loss.
>>1301624
>but we got international respect
Lmao what
The world (at least the parts developped enough to care about what happened outside of their borders) was focused on what was happening in Russia
France obviously
>>1301633
Pre-1812 the US could have never commanded the respect required to write something like the monroe doctrine and expect it to be taken seriously. European powers didn't care that much, but they noted that the US went up against Great Britain alone and won. In the revolution we had France and Spain as major allies, so our win was attributed mostly to their support.
Chile desu
>>1301295
The conquered nations.
>>1301541
None of these are clear losses.
In the case of Afghanistan and the 2003 Iraq war, they were clear military victories. What made those two wars disasters were the political and diplomatic failings.
In the case of Vietnam, the cost of continuing, both in resources and unrest at home, was too great to be worth it, so we pulled ourselves out. It was just one part of the greater conflict with the Soviet Union. And Soviet influence in Vietnam wasn't the worst outcome, because it also had the effect of containing China and breeding more distrust between the two.
In 1812, we were not quite defeated, but we suffered greatly at the hands of hit and run tactics for the duration. While many will point to the burning of our capitol as though it were proof of a loss, the actual results of the war were mixed.
>>1301633
Forcing the UK to rely on such underhanded tactics as the ones they employed was quite a feat.
It's one thing to burn a city and run, it is entirely another to actually hold ground.
>>1301541
>has to rely on meme wars
>>1301633
The UK cared enough to basically give us whatever we wanted in every subsequent territorial dispute.
>>1301548
/thread
>>1301765
t. burger
>>1301663
Same, but unironically.
>>1301351
Very fucking possible. I respect Poland and its military history.
>>1301295
I would say France and Rome
>>1301670
You do know that the U.S didn't win the War of 1812 right? It was a stalemate.
>>1301295
finland i guess
>>1301298
>fighting WWII
>actually try to not leave guys behind
Also not entirely within the domain of military history, but we basically handled postwar Japan about as well as anyone could.
Serbia remove kebab
>>1301295
Israel
:^)
>>1301302
You didn't beat Americans, they just stopped giving a shit and left.
>>1301527
1871 best year of my life, Elsass-Lothringen rightful German clay
Republic of Finland
>>1306399
:^)
>>1301624
> Doing a good job
> Iraqi goverment
It's the popular militias and the US air support that are pushing their weight in this sectarian quagmire
Iraq was a failed state as soon as they dethroned Saddam, much like Libya
>>1306399
You could replace "Americans with xxx" , for it could be applied to nearly all of invasion forces
Example
>Yo, Mcdonald, You didn't beat Brtis, they just stopped giving a shit and left
>Yo, greek niggas, you didn't beat Persians, they just feel boring and left
>>1301324
>beaten
>destroyed Alexander's army
>????
>>1301406
[/thread intensifies]
Ave.exe
>>1301538
This
Who else if not France.
yup i agree it's france obviously
Scotland
>>1301304
this
>>1301351
Part of honor is winning your battles :^)
>>1301295
Spain.
PD: Genocide is not dishonourable if it's against rebels and subhumans.
This thread has been up for two days and no one has said Japan? Come on guys, remeber Bushido? Killing yourself instead of dishonoring your family? The kamikaze pilots who died for their country?
>>1306475
>implying they were beaten
>>1301541
The only war that the U.S. lost of those was Vietnam
>>1307611
Mesoamericans were not subhuman, they adopted christianity extraordinarily well, we're good trading partners and have built their own cities and technological advancements.
I understand you're baiting, but even with that mindset I still think you're wrong
Rome France and Prussia/Germany
>>1301306
Britain probably has the least honorable one
They teamed up with the rest of Europe to beat Spain
They teamed up with the rest of Europe to beat France
They teamed up with the rest of Europe to beat Germany
But has Europe ever teamed up to beat Britain?
Nope, simply because Britain has literally never fought an European war by itself
>>1301499
Hey be nice to colonial americans
>>1307652
there hasn't been a battle fough on english soil for hundreds of years
and even then it was a civil war
>>1301324
>destroyed Alexanders army
>lost a battle where they hugely outnumbered their opponent and held he river bank
>got BTFO by a few cavalry men crossing with little infantry support
>completely panicked
Yeah they sure showed those Macedonians
>>1307643
Those who did that were respected (or killed by disease). The rest got what they deserved.
>>1307724
Having a good navy doesnt make your military history honorable
When France and Germany fought some wars alone against the entire world, it was honorable
Did Britain ever do something like that?
>>1307724
Literally what he said.
>>1307744
>Germany in WWs
>Honourable
>>1307754
Yeah, surely conquering Zulus or hiding on your island while Germany bumfucks Europe is more honorable than taking on the entire world alone
>>1307652
>But has Europe ever teamed up to beat Britain?
Yes, the current election, and the EU has won with the death of that one libtard.
>>1307613
This
>>1301338
>Viets are just treacherous subjects that's all. Hardly honorable.
Vietnamese are the ultimate dindus. The Chinese invasions of Vietnam were punitive in nature and at the behest of overthrown rulers.
>>1307757
there's a fine line between bravery and stupidity
>>1301295
Actually - Canada.
Canada has never started a war however we have been involved in WWI & WWII including some of the worst battles and campaigns. Have fought in Korea - the PPCLI (Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry is the only unit with a Presidential Citation)
Canada has served in UN Peacekeeping efforts all over the world. I would say Canada has the most honourable military history.
Oh - and they even beat the US in 1812 by burning down the White House.
>>1307804
Aluetian Islands incident and Gallipoli discount any Anglo countries
>>1307757
The fact that Brits did hide does not make Germany behaviour honourable.
>>1307835
>Gallipoli
As the thread is "most honorable" if you look at a Countries service record. No I would say that your broad negation is invalid. As no Military Record is perfect - Canadas is still the most honorable.
>>1307847
>Canucks and Burgerfats fuck up a Naval landing so bad that they start shooting at each other
>The enemy wasn't even present in the area
So honorable
I'd say Japan.
>warrior caste
>beloved emperor was a god
>established buschido
>would not give the fuck up
Inb4 weeb
>>1307865
Offer up an alternative and give your reason or shut the fuck up.
Afghanistan
Mongolia
>>1301295
France had really nice military history: http://www.militaryfactory.com/battles/french_military_victories.asp
>>1301306
>Gone to war to get the right to pump opium into China
If you think Cartels are honorable
>>1307611
>Ravaged Asia with slavery and overthrowing kingdoms
>Has to be put down like a dog by the chinks
>Honerable
>>1307868
>WW2
>Honerable
>>1307915
Was for science
No sush or no anime
>>1307868
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jinju_(1593)
>honorable
>>1301334
>always good guys
>never lost
>>1307868
excuse me? Did you see how the Japanese Military treated China? Not just dishonorable but repulsive
>>1301351
>Invade Russia when it was still a small country and not big empire as there's a great famine, a third of the population have died, civil war everywhere, and Sweden is already invading
>Get muh wing hussars BTFO and kicked out of Moscow by a bunch of civilians
>Generations later, your autistic keyboard warrior descendants will be proud of the fact their ancestors "conquered Moscow" even though Russia was not a great power, was falling apart, and the Poles STILL LOST, yet wonder what they ever did to be Russia's bitch eternially afterwards.
>>1306472
>Yo, Russians, you didn't beat the Grande Armée, they just feel boring and left
>>1307913
You didn't read the PD, did you? They don't count, the honorable thing is to crush them until they accept civilization (christianity).
>>1301338
>decades to millennia of cuckholdry
Are there any pre-historical instances of this, not necessarily Vietnamese?
>>1301670
You didn't exactly win, it was more of a stalemate. And the only reason it was a stalemate was that Britain had its hands tied dealing with Napoleon. America has the War of 1812, the UK has the American theatre.
If we're gonna be honest if Wellington and Nelson hadn't been fighting in Europe you probably would have lost.
>>1307613
Nullified by their war crimes which can be argued as more heinous than germanys.
>>1308601
Nelson was dead
>>1308418
what the goddamn hell are you so salty about? Fuck off to /int/, nobody wants your autistic "country banter" here.
Spain
>be the defender of the Catholic faith and kill infidels and heretics
>fight against France too and win multiple times
>never make excessive demands
>Tercios won or died
>never made dirty wars like USA, UK or France
>>1308777
>get invaded by sandniggers
>>1308601
The Brits never really cared about the war of 1812. It wasn't a war intended to subjugate and recapture the colonies. It was a slap on the nose to get Americans to stop acting as though they welded martial power.
>>1308832
Spain as we know didn't exist back then and the peninsula was ruled by gay swedes.
France.
>>1308418
Based Russia
Native American
>counting coup seen as more honorable than killing
>civilian atrocities unheard of before contact with colonial powers
>often settled differences and decided territory through games like lacrosse
>welcomed foreigners with open arms and helped them survive
>>1308897
>>civilian atrocities unheard of before contact with colonial powers
you might wanna get a little more specific with your native americans
>>1308629
I do. Polandboos are starting to get tiresome.
>>1301295
Antarctica has never hassled anyone.
>>1308846
My point exactly. If they HAD cared, and had sent their best instead of whoever they didn't want fucking up the important theatre, the US would've been BTFO within a year.
>>1301295
The one with least military history.
>>1307913
>>Ravaged Asia with slavery and overthrowing kingdoms
>>Has to be put down like a dog by the chinks
Literally when?
>>1301406
>Rome
>honorable
Hahahahaha
>>1307804
Dude the Germans modeled their Death Camps in WW2 after Canadian POW camps in WW1
>>1308777
>try to conquer Protestant England by telling some Catholic bitch to stage a coup we'll totally come to your aid and we totally don't expect Elizabeth to chop your head off and use that as a casus belli to invade
>>1301295
Costa Rica
>>1301295
Croatia
>not a single expansionist war
>>1310463
So, America?
>>1310526
There were no death camps, only concentration camps
And given they had soccer fields, swimming pools and libraries, I get the Canadian pows camps must have been pretty chill if that's where the inspiration was taken from
Sikhs are pretty underrated in this regard. I mean sure, they eventually got taken by the British like most everyone in that area. But they definitely kicked some serious ass before they were. And after they were.
>>1306445
This
>>1301338
t. Hoi Lee Fuk
>>1311249
>And after they were
Have you seen what Sikhs are doing in Punjab right now? The ruling class of Sikhs. The ones in Panjab aren't the honorable, noble Sikhs that once saved the Panjab from the cancerous British, but instead 70% of the youth of Panjab is on drugs. The majority Sikh-led party that governs Panjab isn't doing shit instead filling its own pockets. Remind me again who's ass they kicked? They had the ability to take over the crumbling Mughal empire? I guess that's an advantage when most of the population already hates the authority that you wish to subdue.
Israel
Japan
>Only Asian state not invaded by Mongols
>Became colonial great power
>Challenged established global order singlehandedly
>Rebuilt even after total annhilation and now has a GDP greated that all the European states who shat on it in the 19th century
>>1313917
>the nose
>>1313931
>only Asian state not invade by Mongols
China and Korea are not all of Asia
>>1313931
>India doesn't exist
>Typhoons are now considered Japanese soldiers
>Korea is all you need to be a "colonial great power"
>Being xenophobic psychopaths counts as "challenging global order"
>Getting bailed out by the people that handed their asses to them is something to be proud of
>>1314867
This
>>1301306
cucked and ruled by nords, french normans, welsh, scots, dutch, and now by fucking germans.
when was the last time a real anglo-saxon ruled england? even harold godwinson was part danish.
>>1301670
US didn't win 1812 retard. And no one gave a fuck about ameritards while napoopn was aboot
>>1308777
>never made dirty wars like USA, UK or France
Tell that to pre-columbian civilizations
I don't think war leads to a lot of honorable actions in general
O-ottomans?!
>>1315193
If outnumbering your enemies 90% of the time and losing 70% of the time is honorable, yup
>>1301295
>honorable
More like good at tricking little boys to their death lmao
>>1301490
Peter the III was such a fucking faggot
>>1315193
Not as hell
Aside from the cliche answers I pick Afghanistan:
>3 of the 5 greatest conquerors ever (Alexander, Genghis, Timur) conquered this place
>It took Alexander longer to get from one side of Afghanistan to the other than it took him to conquer all land between Greece and Afghanistan
>similar story for the Arabs, it took them 2 centuries to conquer Afghanistan while it took them 2 decades to conquer most of the much larger Iran
>Bamiyan in Afghanistan is literally the only place in the greater Persia area where Genghis Khan faced difficulties in battle, and where his grandson Mutukan even got killed (fun story: one of the biggest ethnic groups in Afghanistan claim to be descendants of the Mongol troops from this battle in 1221)
>British faced extreme difficulties in all three wars they waged here, and especially the first and third wars were awful experiences.
>Same for the Soviets
>Same for NATO troops, pic related
From what I read the British had a lot of respect for the Afghans in the wars they had, "Return of a King" is a good book with many quotes of contemporary Brits where you can read that.
Vietnam is also like Afghanistan in that regard but someone else ITT posted about them. Great fighters.
Other than that I think we (the British) did alright despite the memes. Yes, we acted in our own self-interest which comes across as "perfidious", but we weren't worse than any other major European force.
Americans were great but post-WW2 really messed up their reputation with blunder after blunder, ruining country after country.
Turkey desu
>inb4 cyprus
It was justified
>>1301514
Is New_Player buttmad about not being able to rp while horse archers tear you to shreds? Do you need a nord pick?
>>1315193
>O-ottomans?!
Seconding this.
>>1310661
You invaded Bosnia, you lying fuck.
>>1310685
>been at war for the vast majority of it's history
>least military history
The country with the least military history is the one which has independent for the least amount of time. South Sudan, probably has the least military history of any current state.
>>1307804
>Oh - and they even beat the US in 1812 by burning down the White House
>British regulars fresh off the boat burn down the White House
>Canada takes credit for it
Taken credit for the victory of others isn't honorable.
>>1308601
>And the only reason it was a stalemate was that Britain had its hands tied dealing with Napoleon
The most important battles of the war happened after the Napoleonic wars had ended, you fucking idiot.
>>1301295
>war
>honourable
>>1307623
Spot the butthurt American... We lost all of those. Stop denying
>>1319415
No, they achieved the objective, stop the North Korean communists from swallowing the entire Korea peninsula.
>>1301338
>Shu Han from the three kingdoms period.
You were doing so well up until you mention the country that betrayed literally everyone they made a deal with, and who's country was created because it's leader betrayed his cousin.
China
>Conquered and colonized China , a land almost twice the size of Europe (not including Russia) populated with hundreds of languages.
>Held the Steppes at bay for thousands of years
>helped various countries with their defenses expecting nothing in return (Example Korea vs the Japanese, Black Dragons Vs the French in Vietnam, North Korea vs the Western World)
>>1301295
if we're strictly talking about honor then it's china
they spent 5000 years with almost no expansion
in europe: russia
>>1320062
>Conquered and colonized China , a land almost twice the size of Europe (not including Russia) populated with hundreds of languages.
The Manchus did most of the job. They conquest Mongol, Xin Yang, Dungan, Tibet and include Manchu land. Ming and Song under the Hans were only 1/3 of that size.
>Held the Steppes at bay for thousands of years
You forget Wuhu era. When Northern Barbarians, included Steppes, occupied most of Northern China.
>helped various countries with their defenses expecting nothing in return (Example Korea vs the Japanese, Black Dragons Vs the French in Vietnam, North Korea vs the Western World)
Chinese helped those countries for the sake of themselves though. You can't allow a hostile state, with different ideology, next to you.
>>1320123
Pre Manchu it was about as big as Europe. Or bigger than Europe if you count the Tibetans.
>You forget Wuhu era. When Northern Barbarians, included Steppes, occupied most of Northern China.
There were quite a few era's where Steppes charged down and conquered bits of territory. Eventually the converted and were reconquered.
>Chinese helped those countries for the sake of themselves though. You can't allow a hostile state, with different ideology, next to you.
That's about as honorable you can expect any country to get.
>>1320123
>Ming and Song under the Hans were only 1/3 of that size.
The vast majority of "China Proper" wasn't even Sinitic speaking.
The spread of Zhou culture amongst non Sinitic elites(Chu,Wu,Yue) and the Qin/Han unification made China what is today.
>>1307652
You only need to team up against those who are actually strong.
>>1320099
Russia? Nah. What they did to the nazis wasn't honorable.
Are we talking honor as in morality or are we talking about glory?
>>1308897
>scalped women and children
>>1313931
>Became colonial great power
Top kek
Japan was a regional power in the west Pacific
>>1319392
>The country with the least military history is the one which has independent for the least amount of time. South Sudan, probably has the least military history of any current state.
What? South Sudan's been at war for four years straight, and has been at war for the majority of the past six decades. You're better off choosing an island country like Antigua and Barbuda, independent in 1981.
>>1320391
I think it's about glory
