Tell me your issue with this book, /his/
>>1291230
It's a book for edgy teens and autists written by a deviant hypocrite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZmVRI8Ptv4
Fucking love this episode.
Long. Boring. Worthless as a novel.
I liked it and found it empowering
also, >>>/lit/
>>1291285
Read the sticky you fucking idiot.
>tfw 400lb, 7' tall inbred, severely retarded brother
>keep him chained in the basement and feed him live chickens
>only thing that keeps him from flying into a murderous rage is tearing paper
>give him this book for christmas
>sheriff hasn't been called once this year
From a Christian perspective, I think Rand gets a bad wrap for the position that, improperly (from her position) articulated, "altruism is objectively wrong". She doesn't come out and say "all things which you might consider altruism are wrong", but places a specific qualifier, definition, on this sense of "high altruism" or agape, which is improper and wrong for humans, and quite honestly, I agree.
We learn from "even as you treat the least of these, you treat the Lord", that we're treating God in a fashion to the way we treat others... and ourselves. Sometimes in our depression, loathing, we treat self as "least", we hurt ourselves, ignore ourselves, mistreat ourselves, and in so doing mistreat God. We need to be able to function, healthily, to do well for others. If truly we're to love others as we love self, if we love self less then we will love others less.
So without making this into another book, I think she has insight. I think there's a balance which must be sought, not to love self too much, into narcissism, not to love self too little, and sacrifice so much of self, so there's nothing left with which to share and make positive change.
>>1291368
>From a Christian perspective
>>1291230
it was written by ayn rand
>>1291310
wtf lol
>>1291395
Well, that's unfortunate for you. Have fun in your echo chamber.
>>1291407
Thanks. Have fun with your pedo filled larpfest next sunday.
>>1291230
I found it incredibly stretched out and mediocre. It was so long and plot development was so sluggish i stopped reading at some point. I felt like Ayn sees her readers as first grade retards or isn't able to come to the point.
>>1291429
Oh, you mean life in general? I don't need Sundays for that, I see it happening everywhere, all the time, in all sectors. If you ignore what's endemic in humankind and attribute it specifically to one class or group, you're not going to be able to fix it, and quite honestly I don't believe your agenda is to truly fix that problem of victimization, but an agenda to point a finger and make yourself feel better about the trespasses you perpetrate and work to legitimize.
>>1291449
based anon is based
>>1291230
It's an american/anglo meme and so irrelevant I literally never heard of it before 4chan.
>>1291230
It's boring.
>>1291526
Well, you're misinformed. The author is.. fuck it. You get wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand
>>1291230
The book presents the world as being more or less driven by great men and women. This is wrong. Men and women who think they are great need only step aside to find out how quickly they are replaced. Galt's Gulch is the graveyard.
That being said, I know a number of people have found personal inspiration from the book, so it has that going for it, I guess.
>>1291549
She is the american/anglo meme, not her specific book famous in the USA.
>>1291545
This. Fuck that book.
>>1291598
>That being said, I know a number of people have found personal inspiration from the book, so it has that going for it, I guess.
Did these people actually become successful by any metric?
>>1291230
not enough trains
>>1291230
It's too long and poorly written
>>1291368
>Christian
>Is right wing
Every time.
Replying to replies to my posts
>>1291589
I don't understand this post. I don't believe in fairies. The second post isn't me, but I know who it is, we share an ip. You're being inflammatory for the point of being inflammatory and it's not going to solve things. If this is how you run your life, in general, you might have future problems.
>>1291617
"She" spent her first 20 years, the most formative in a person's life, in 1905 to 1925 Russia. "She's" not an American meme, nor would I think it appropriate to argue "anglo" because her philosophy isn't especially ethnic.
>>1291966
Please explain what's right wing about that post. Rand was an avid atheist, to the point of scolding Christians for believing in the supernatural. I was expressing in that post an effort to meet "across the aisle" in idealism for the individual, how the individual views and treats self. I don't see how that's right , left , up , down or any other "wing".
>>1292005
Didn't read.
>>1292005
>The second post isn't me, but I know who it is, we share an ip.
Are you in a christfaggot cult compound?
>>1292062
No. He posts on some of these, I checked it out and started posting the last couple weeks.
>>1291549
>Wikipedia
>>1291230
>>1292005
She is an american meme because mostly only americans care about her.
>>1292005
>Please explain what's right wing about that post.
Because Rand's idea of "bad altruism", isn't quite like what you're describing (maybe it is and I'm just interpreting your post wrong). It's simply giving a fuck about anyone else, as far as she's concerned fuck loving others, just love yourself as opposed to any message of loving yourself more to love others more. To quote the woman herself
>“This was pity – this complete awareness of a man without worth or hope, this sense of finality…there was a shame in this feeling his own shame that he should have to pronounce suc judgment upon a man; that he should know an emotion which contained no shred of respect…there must be something terribly wrong with a world in which this monstrous feeling is called a virtue.”
There is no room for empathy in objectivism. It's not just improper and wrong to hate yourself, but the very act of caring about other people is seen as something to be rid of.
>>1291589
anon, you're being autistic
>>1291230
A lot, philosophically.
But it deserves to exist because "Atlas Slugged" is a great pun.
Someone please post that comic.
>>1291230
If you want to read a book of a woman who hates selflessness, hates religion, hates social security, but leeched off of it when she was old and weak herself, go for it. Read it with a critical mind, and then there is nothing better to defeat Rand than Rand's writings herself.
Video semi related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykHYXOC0ETo
>>1291368
>"Christian"
>Worshipes a grill who not only hated altruism but hated religion in general, Christianity especially as well, and repeatedly called it a slave mentality.
https://vimeo.com/groups/96331/videos/80799353
>>1291637
Mark Cuban is one
>>1291230
1000 pages too long.
I mean the concept of Objectivity sounds interesting, but for fuck's sake you are not going to be able to learn it by reading that book as your brain would reject your body.
>>1292562
Have you never read a long book before pleb?
>>1291230
Rand's philosophy sounds like she was transcribing for a white noise machine.
