Let's just agree that Nihilism, Primitivism, Anarchy, and Libertarianism aren't really philosophy since their ideals are basically to not do anything at all.
and that Communism is one but is too utopian to be done in a realistic scenario like Taoism so it's ok to think about but not pursue it genuinely.
>>1344271
>Nihilism, Primitivism, Anarchy, and Libertarianism aren't really philosophy since their ideals are basically to not do anything at all.
Not the case. For this to be true you'd need to use your own, private, definition of philosophy.
>Communism is one but is too utopian to be done in a realistic scenario
Also not the case. Just because it has never been done, doesn't mean it cannot be done.
>like Taoism
Which actually is "do nothing"
The circle of ignorance is now complete.
There is nothing left to learn from participating in this discussion.
>>1344290
Communism, at least with Marx's definition (as opposed to Lenin's, Trotsky's, Mao's, etc) was basically the industrialized economies ran by traders guilds, which due to economies of scales can't really happen
Nihilism is all about there not being a point to anything including itself, so it defeats its purpose. Last three are all "no rules rule!" philosophy which has no direction to go once all facets of stability is forcibly removed other then "everything will work out in the end" so they're a bit too lazy to be philosophies.
I goofed with the Taoism comment tho
>>1344304
Does simply believing that there's no point to anything make you a Nihilist?
Because you can believe that there's no objective meaning or purpose or "point" to life or existence without believing that people should just end their lives or not try to enjoy them or do anything with them because "what's the point"?
>>1344271
Let's just agree that all forms of statism aren't really philosophies at all because their ideals are basically to subjugate/kill people who don't follow your beliefs.
Now, if you're willing to be a grown up, you must learn to accept others' ideas. Anarchy and Libertarianism are futuristic compared to other philosophies in that they encourage the individual to put their thoughts over menial issues aside and to give utmost freedom to the individual (as long as the individual does not limit the freedom of or harm others). Meanwhile, the US is stuck in debate over a fucking plant and due process and gun control (Donald Trump does not believe in due process for gun owners).
TL;DR Grow up.
the reason communism never works is because it never relies on a direct, uniform, universal redistribution of wealth, i.e. a basic income.
If you want communism to work, you've got to set your government up like a co-op. A quarter of your paycheck goes to maintaining the business, a quarter gets taken and payed in dividends or profit sharing, the rest goes in your pocket.
Communists would always rather spend your share of your communities resources for you than redistribute them to you directly.
>>1344271
>Let's just agree that Nihilism, Primitivism, Anarchy, and Libertarianism aren't really philosophy since their ideals are basically to not do anything at all.
>and that Communism is one but is too utopian to be done in a realistic scenario like Taoism so it's ok to think about but not pursue it genuinely.
no
I think we can agree that your thread will not do anything at all tho
It shouldn't even be seen as welfare, because that implies that it is not an entitlement. You can't buy up all the land surrounding a property and charge a toll to cross your land to get to it and imagine that you somehow "earned" the those profits.
>>1345448
Statism isn't really a philosophy, it's a strawman to insult the political philosophies you don't like
Anarchy and Libertarianism are still not really philosophies
>>1345448
>futuristic
+1
>>1346057
ugly ass shit
>>1344271
Libertarianism is to let people do what they want
Anarchy is to tear down any authority
Nihilism is that nothing matters (potentially the only one that falls under your claim)
Primitivism advocates for the simple
They all seem to claim that action should be taken in some form or another. Whether it be on a personal, or societal level.
>>1346126
Reactionary detected.
>>1345448
>Statism
>>1344271
>Let's just agree that Nihilism, Primitivism, Anarchy, and Libertarianism aren't really philosophy since their ideals are basically to not do anything at all.
No definition of philosophy excludes those philosophies
>and that Communism is one but is too utopian to be done in a realistic scenario like Taoism so it's ok to think about but not pursue it genuinely.
No, communism (the destruction of human cultures and traditions) is an incredibly dystopic ideology
tl;dr u fucking dumb niqqa
>>1346154
but to replace it is a classless system where everything is run by guilds and no one is found wanting, seems pretty utopian to me
but then again he did say "dictatorship of the proletariat" which does sound quite dystopian desu
>>1344271
Nihilism is dessert,anarchy is jungle.
>>1346176
> but then again he did say "dictatorship of the proletariat" which does sound quite dystopian
It was called so because it was in contrast to the current economic system which is the "dictatorship of capital"
>>1346807
which is also considered dystopian
>>1345448
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIRo4DjbkAo
>>1346057
Ironic considering Italy was one of the most embarrassingly underdeveloped countries fighting on the western front.
