In this thread we try to find our way past historical revision and get an idea of what really happened. History is offensive, it is not kind, your feelings will be hurt, but it is important we see things for how they really happened and not for how we want them to have happened!
>>12829
stalin wasnt that bad
>>13930
Kill yourself
>>12829
>>12829
Lincoln got shot because he was a tyrant who shat on the constitution. He wasn't shot because people were mad they couldn't keep slaves. Just as Stalin is remembered in Russia as one of Russia's greatest leaders, despite being a raging murderous psycopath who killed tons of his own people, Lincoln is remembered in America in the same way.
It was all aliens
and the joos
>>12829
the united states, the leading nation of the free world, absolutely exterminated an entire population and its culture, stamped out all traces of it, and left its remnants to rot on miserable poverty ridden reservations
>>12829
If your feelings are hurt when you read history, then something is seriously fucking wrong with you, you shouldn't be allowed near books, they have too many pointy edges, you could hurt yourself.
>>14012
this desu senpai
>>12829
The holocaust was lie and Hitler was actually a good guy. History demonizes the fuck out of the Nazis. If they hadn't invaded Poland everything would be alright today. Fuck winston churchill he was a fat lazy bum responsible for the market garden disaster. Communism failed miserable and the socialists/marxists are the cancer of today who think they can justify being lazy and stealing from people because they are poor.
>>14082
Yeah no, take your white guilt back to tumblr you disgusting subhuman
>>14082
Justified.
The natives were conquered. We didn't just move in, we had wars for the land. The United States didn't do anything different than any other country.
The Arabs, China, and most of Europe did the same at some point. I don't know why people focus so much on the u.s.?
>>14177
>History is offensive
>n-no f-fuck off back to tumblr!
just hop off /his/ thanks
>>14177
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no white guilt involved senpai. just pointing out the hypocrisy whenever my country flips a shit about oppression and genocide in other countries.
>>14223
You must be lost, Reddit is that way
>>14263
>/pol/tard when confronted by anything that doesn't conform to his narrow point of view
>>14229
It would be hypocrisy if the current generation were in any way responsible for what occurred more than a century ago.
And if you are claiming that they are, then white guilt is involved beyond the shadow of a doubt.
>>14286
Not even the original guy you replied to but you're a retard.
The natives were conquered, simple as that.
>>14263
is that not what happened, though? or were the natives just like, "ey bro, wassup! we glad you here man. here, just massacre us and rape our women, das cool."
>>14319
i'm not even arguing about the natives i'm arguing about his anti-anything mannerisms
>>14177
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_United_States_foreign_regime_change_actions
>>14335
And?
Name 1 civilization that never did anything similar.
>>14303
>It would be hypocrisy if the current generation were in any way responsible for what occurred more than a century ago.
true, but keep in mind that we have the same government that we did back then. for a country like germany it's different, because its current government has no ties whatsoever to the nazis in terms of continuity. furthermore, the fact that we still have "reservations" for certain types of people shows that we're not past this.
>>12829
>implying revisionism isn't the path to truth
The narrative accepted right after something happens will be tainted by the bias of people directly affected by it and they haven't had as much time to gather and consider facts.
>Robespierre was a hero who wanted to end unjustified violence but still drive the revolution to it's ultimate goal
>>14341
Go for it, speak your mind.
Just don't get upset when people call you a retard
>>12829
Historical revisionism is not restricted to European History, but most people will deny that,
>>14335
More like, the natives were all killing each other as it was (the racist Noble Savage myth is total bullshit, the Native Americans were all super warlike tribes, and some of the most badass that there ever were). Whites were just one more group who joined the fray, but we wound up winning.
But yeah, our bad. Sorry we invaded your land and built schools, roads, hospitals and universities.
>>14082
>and left its remnants to rot on miserable poverty ridden reservations
ikr it was pretty nice of them
>>14440
The delusion is strong with this one
>>14440
>the fact that we still have "reservations" for certain types of people shows that we're not past this.
Native americans are automatically granted US citizenship.
If they stay on reservations, it's of their own choosing.
If anything the US gives the native americans special privileges.
And no it's not different from a country like germany. What's past is past. You can't blame the son for sins of the father.
>>14082
>man from the future talking about white people
>>14208
Urr yeah in way past times that had a much different existence than 16th to 20th century usa. The issue is that it was modern (premodern for some) times.
>>14208
>The Arabs, China, and most of Europe did the same at some point. I don't know why people focus so much on the u.s.?
There's not a significant population of social justice warriors or political correctness in the Middle East or China, and the ones in Europe would rather point fingers at the US than themselves.
>>14621
>If anything the US gives the native americans special privileges.
Yeah, THIS. The native american reservations are treated as their own sovereign nations. In Arizona, I know natives who grow weed on the reservation because there's no laws against it. Sure, FEDERAL laws are against it, and it IS federal land, but their reservations are treated as sovereign states.
>>14440
>but keep in mind that we have the same government that we did back then
hue hue hue, andrew jackson would disagree, then shoot you
The initial shock to the markets in 1929 was temporary and was already coming to and end by halfway through Hoover's term. The Smoot-Hawley tariff was passed in 1930 because he felt like everyone was saying he "wasn't doing enough to address the crisis"
The tariff was the biggest contributor to the great depression lasting as long as it did, and Roosevelt's programs only exacerbated the problem.
The Japs were rabidly drugged up cannibal rapists with designs towards weapons of mass, MASS destruction before someone nuked the shit out of them.
>>14621
>You can't blame the son for sins of the father.
...Can you?
There's still people talking about reparations for Apartheid, Jewish Holocaust, Tuskegee Experiments, Armenian Genocide, and other events that weren't really all that recent.
>>15060
Anything is justified in the name of the God Emperor.
>>15098
Yeah, people talk about dumb shit all of the time, what's new?
>I'm not talking about white guilt
>but I'm totally talking about white guilt
>>15060
What kind of weapons were they aspiring to make?
>>15135
Japs were bretty based to be honest
>>15098
That's mostly because the people involved are still alive, though Nazis are getting up there, they still catch one every few years.
Has anyone run into a slave trader or Indian killer?
>>15172
Biological weapons. They were going to dump a bunch of plagues on New York.
>>15233
Oh, I thought you were talking about doomsday weapons like that Sun gun that Germany wanted to build.
