Would Western civilization exist on the level it does today without the influence of Charlemagne?
Probably.
He was a particularly good emperor, but he was only one in a line of competent rulers, in a good position.
>>1274834
Impossible to say for sure. There may have been any number of other great kings who would have sprung up to unite Europe and check the advance of the Mohammedans, but that's pure speculation.
>>1274834
>Charlemagne
>Picture of Brenus
>>1274834
Look at that fucking smug asshole;
>WHERE DEM CIVILIZED BITCHES AT
And people will still try to claim that being a fat sedentary grain eater is superior to the barbarian lifestyle, ridiculous!
>inb4 muh science, muh culture, muh art
>implying civilization isn't the end-stage of a people
>>1276420
>Not tilling soft skin of Gaia day in, day out
>Not bringing forth the from her buxom, the sustenance of life
>Not training your sons in the arts of war in the cold seasons and holidays
>Not waving off to your family, leaving your firstborn to steward the land
>Not gathering with the other patriarchs to discuss the grimness that will take you soon
>Not slaughtering barbarian scum with strong hands, born of black earth and bright sun.
Mutualist, agrarian coalitions, if only. If only.
>>1276420
>implying Brennus wasn't a fat sedentary grain eater
>falling for the Conan the Barbarian meme
>>1274834
Pippin the Hunchback would carry a wok with him wherever he would travel.
Not because he was fond of knocking together a chinese. It was just easier to iron his shirts.
>>1276441
>>1276449
Wasn't specifically speaking wrt. Brennus, but more generally and with particular reference to my own ancestors.
Hard to say, but probably. There's only superficial links between Charlemagne and the beginnings of Western civilisation in France 100 years later.
Now would it have happened without Clovis, that's another story.
