Can we discuss historical armor and weapons in this board?
If so, historical armor and weapons thread.
crusader armor makes me hard
>>12810
post a pic of crusader armor then
>>12810
>that disgusting fantasy-like setup
I bet you kiss girls too
I love all types of roman armour and weapons and just roman history in general.
motherfuckers don't know about pier gerlofs big willy
>>12867
>>12855
My bad niggas, wrong image
>>13136
>Heaume
disgusting really.
>>13136
I could be wrong but I still think that helmet looks out of place
>>12655
What is the purpose of the baltea?
>>13091
man Camillian units looked awesome
>>13128
dude could you imagine wielding that fucking thing.
>>13232
finally I have reason to image dump all these stuff I've got from /tg/
>>13243
the guy was over seven feet tall but its not really related to this thread as it was hundreds of years later
>>13187
What's the proper term/spelling?
>>13312
>reeeeeee
Alright, I have one question.
[spoiler]Chainmail or plate?[/spoiler]
>>13219
it isn't
post armor for femakes. im curious
>>13239
That pic is actually Polybian era, you can see the hastati and principes are wielding gladii, during the Camillan era everyone had hastae.
>>13226
Moderate dick/inner thigh armor that didn't impede movement.
>>13408
Doesn't exist
>>13369
plate is/was really expensive and not really used in battles
>>13369
Both. If I had to choose, plate is superior to mail. Articulated plate especially. More flexible and not much heavier.
I never understood the deal with Greek/Roman helmets and their crests. Someone kind enough to explain it to me?
>>13475
It worked well to be fair.
>>13408
Doesn't exist
>>13369
Both are good. I love both, but personally, I like the 12th/13th century knight in mail aesthetic more than plate, but I still love the shit out of both
>tfw euroboo
>>13482
Does it really need explaining? It was just for aesthetics
>>13482
It could denote rank, but mostly it looked cool. Warriors could be very peacockish people.
Is it true, that Sardinians and Celts were of the same Bronze age culture when it came to Swords? Seeing as they both practically used the same type of Bronze sword.
pic related from Scotland
>>13475
I guess it dose make sense giving that they mostly fought with pole arms and bows.
>>13136
i'm not one of those deus vult neckbeards but crusader armor is fuckin smexy
>>13617
It's just regular armor with a tabard or cape. Calm the fuck down.
>>13470
>tfw /his/ is becoming a board of memes
Just stop fucking posting, please. I beg of you. Plate was used by everyone who could fucking buy it, from the rich ass german kings in the 12th century to the 17th century cavaliers
>>13592
Medievalcore when?
>>13646
>Plate was used by everyone who could fucking buy it
so 3 people?
>>13646
>plate armor
>12 century
>>13482
Intimidation and a way to identify importance?
>>13686
Are you trying to trigger me?
I wish I could find more images with a leather armor.
>>13702
Actually, 13th, that was my mistake. But yeah, up in Germany and the HRE, rich ass nobles started to commission it. And yes, it was super fucking expensive and time consuming, but it certainly did exist. Plate only became common as most people know it in the 15th and 16th
>>13779
Seldom existed, at least in the medieval period as far as I know. Cloth and aketons are superior
Late Byzantine armor is nice desu
>>13645
i'm just saying it looks nice, maybe you should calm down :^/
>>13861
Kinda looks like Egyptian crocodile skin armor
>>13312
>use pocket sand and blind the opponent
>thrust sword into his face as he reels back
>>14013
>as he falls to the ground you can hear a faint reeeeeeeeeeee
>>14011
saved
>>13986
>everyone
He never said anyone, all that was said was that rich people could have it.
Plate armor was barely used at all in the medieval period but it was used extensively in the Renaissance and this is a fact,
It would be great if everyone said the culture and time period of the armors they are posting, in the filename or whatever. I don't know what >>14129 this is from
>>14206
his local larp store
>prosthetic limb + shield + short sword
GOAT armour
>16th century European like pic related and Maximilian
>Roman late polybian era/marian reform
>sengoku jidai Japan
>>14088
It's funny how this armor was only around a few hundred years ago and yet nobody today can decide if it was actually used in battle or not.
>>14206
Google search gave me this
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?323353-What-period-is-this-armor-from
>>14265
Fucking TWcenter, I swear everything I google about military history links to there. Total War sure has a dedicated fanbase.
>>13986
>one painting from the hundred year war?
I take it you've never actually seen any other ones? Because this is common fucking knowledge you twit
>everyone
Holy fucking shit, how do you come to a history board and not even comprehend basic English, I never said anyone, I said the rich and some men at arms who had it given to them by a lord.
>>Germany
>not realizing i was using it as a geographic location rather than actual germany
>ignoring the fact that i fucking said HRE
Tu quoque faggot
This is why I wanted this sort of board
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6BBq9zE2pY
A Filipino sword, famously used for getting rid of Spain fucking shits
Have some clubs
>just like in my japanies animes
Anyone have any reading on 13th century European armor?
does anybody watch schola gladiatoria on youtube? there are some great, informational vids about european arms and armor
Full plate armor was completely common for men-at-arms of the first third of the 16th century.
It saw widespread use in Central and Western Europe, and in the 15th century too.
It was only past the first third of the 16th century when post-Maximilian, three quarter armor became popular. Full plate died out of impracticality due to firearms; nothing to do with feasibility or availability.
You would have to be literally retarded to think it was some rarity.
Mixing /tg/ and history perhaps, but what do you guys think of the practical use of armoured-mask type headgear like King Baldwin of Jerusalem in kingdom of heaven, the harpies in asoiaf, and the ordinators in Morrowind?
Are there any more historical examples of it? I feel like it would be pretty genius for a pre-modern gestapo caste hiding their identities
>>14478
The Panabas
>>14609
that's getting into the realm of fantasy, not history
Im not so sure about this one, is it a real weapon or just some decoration for ceremonial stuff?
>>14667
How about this one?
>>14609
>Are there any more historical examples of it?
Yes.
>I feel like it would be pretty genius for a pre-modern gestapo caste hiding their identities
No.
Primary application was Hippika gymnasia.
Otherwise, you have the grotesque and parade helmets of the Renaissance.
>>12655
Not posting superior nguyen armor
>>14609
>Are there any more historical examples of it?
Elite Mongolian troops sometimes wore masks. Also the Samurai.
wouldn't standard stone sling shots be more accurate than this this?
>>14667
King Baldwin of Jerusalem didn't really wear a mask then?
I'm no expert by any means, but masks seem a lot less clunky than standard helmets, add an intimidation factor, etc
>>14884
It's not known for sure but almost certainly not
>>13482
it also made it easier to see which direction the people in front of you were facing, to keep the phalanx in formation.
>>14884
If he wore a mask, he wore it because he was a hideously deformed leper.
>>14884
The con I guess would be that it would kinda be difficult to see shit?
I dunno
Superior Dacian falx folded 1000 times can cut through roman armour and shields romans go home
>>14728
It has a name (flamberge) so I'd be inclined to believe it was actually used, waiting for someone who knows his shit to confirm or infirm
>>13091
>using thureos
>fucking cultural appropriationists desu senpai
I want to make weapon distribution map like which one use spear, which one use dagger, and soon, but I have no mood to do that.
>>14884
>I'm no expert by any means
clearly
>but masks seem a lot less clunky than standard helmets
what the fuck does that even mean?
that's the stupidest thing I've read on this board so far.
how are helmets 'clunky'?
masks with tiny eye-shaped holes are effectively useless.
>add an intimidation factor
constricted vision is not intimidating.
>>15009
Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't flamerges typically longer and two handed. I may be wrong as it essentially means flame blade and could apply to any sword with that design
>>15134
It just refers to the shape of the blade, the two most popular types of flamberges being great swords (zweihanders) and rapiers
>>15012
The Romans pretty much stole everything. They used Hispanic swords and armor, Greek throwing and siege weapons, and Gallic helmets
>>14875
A dart is a horrible thing to get hit by.
accuracy was never the main point, the main use of this was people throwing random shit, to have you in a constant state of cover.
It's similar to today's covering fire, it's not meant to be accurate, it's meant to keep you occupied and tired while the hastati chop you to pieces.
>>14609
Well, if you get hit in the face, it hurts extra more since it would be pressed or really close to you. Kinda defeats the purpose and can't deflect arrows
>>15038
>light weighing facial protection vs a tremendous oversized metal piece of shit limiting your mobility
>>15281
>light weighing
Then it wasn't good for shit.
The only time when people used shit covering their faces (like with the samurai) was purely aesthetical.
>>15281
>light weighing facial protection
You mean ineffective and worthless facial protection? A piece of metal which restricts your vision, fails to block or deflect arrows or strikes, and transmits the full force of a hit to your face?
>tremendous
Not even a little
>oversized
What the fuck are you talking about
>metal piece of shit
You know literally nothing, go back to lurking.
>limiting your mobility
See above.
>>15281
>light weighing facial protection
A metallic mask hanging from your face will not be light.
> vs a tremendous oversized metal piece of shit limiting your mobility
Except for the fact that most 16th century helmets in no way limited mobility, and were sizable so your skull didn't get crushed.
Are you that mentally deficient that you can't understand how important helmets were? Head = dead. Helmets come first.
>>15433
On second thought Im not so sure about the accuracy of these gloves.
>>15501
Man, this helmet makes me hard.
Is it celtic?
>>15773
russian i think
>>15773
Looks like your average kataphraktoi helmet, maybe varangian
>>13312
A very rare pepe indeed
Anyone got some old bows and ranged weaponry, arrows/bolts included?
especially interested in good pictures of the chinese repeating crossbow
>>13470
Wrong. That's just plain wrong.
>>14728
>>15009
Flamberge swords were actually used as parrying with one supposedly caused interesting vibrations on the other person's sword and supposedly made them slightly better when used against pole arms.
Generally these were for two handed swords and not rapiers, so no idea what's going on in that photo.
>>15773
looks like someone had a few artistic freedoms when making this replica,
Kind of reminds me of Vendel era bronze helmets from Scandinavia.
>>16028
And it seems I was right, a reverse search leads us to deviantart, where some guy has made "a viking helmet".
He is very likely inspired by the Valsgärde helmet.
>>15853
Sorry pal but I only have this gif saved on my pc.
>>13438
Manlets, when will they learn?
>>16155
Just how prone to malfunctioning were these?
>>14515
ww1 trench clubs, nasty stuff.
>>16155
>string going back by itself
They could have tried harder desu
>>15038
>muh helmets
