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Was he right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMohuVwBC0Q
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>Against a new world order
>Wants to conquer all countries on earth, therefor making a new world order
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I wonder what the English or American version of hitter would sound like. I kind of wish I was native German so I could understand his speeches better.
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No at all OP, sorry to dissolve your fantasy. ;^(
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>>1260757
Nah
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Yes. Sadly his image and what he stood for has been tarnished by the global media.
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You gotta admit the guy was a hell of a speaker.
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>>1260764
>>Wants to conquer all countries on earth, therefor making a new world order

This is false propaganda
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>>1260809
and all you have to do for that gift is let mustard gas serrate your vocal chords.
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>>1260764
>Wants to conquer all countries on earth, therefor making a new world order

i love this meme, not only is it not true, but the marxists, the ones who put forth this propaganda, were the ones who DID want to conquer the world
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>>1260828
In regards to him conquering and killing off a lot of eastern europeans that's not false propaganda. He was a totalitarian brute like Stalin was. Controlled opposition even though it's kinda incorrect to say opposition because Hitler was always on the side of the those whom he claimed he hated and he bent over and took it up his ass all the time like the good "goy" he was.
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>>1260858
Lol

Stalin wanted to conquer Europe with Communism. We saw this with what they did after WW2 by dividing Berlin and making East Berlin communist. Hitler had no intentions of spreading the NSDAP across the world.
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>>1260757
The point he made about the concentration camps was interesting. Kind of a stark reminder that there was no real black and white in this war. There really was no objective good or bad side. Definitely can't say that with their civilian bombing campaigns, nukes, and blockades that the Allies weren't being just as brutal to enemy civilians as the Germans were. Citizens of Hamburg literally boiled alive in the river after being firebombed. If that's not a crime I don't know what is.
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>>1260863
He did till the Ural mountains and depopulating slavs and some finnic people. But of course /pol/tards turn a blind eye to this, they're pathetic controlled opposition. And I actually even have quite a large number of distant relatives that died in labor camps or when they were driven on trains there, yet even in the late months of the war nazi Germany still had a lot of manpower, yet they being the lazy obnoxious jew pawns they are brought in foreigners to do shit for them.
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>>1260863
Oh yes he did.

All "inferior" races and those with "impure" blood were to be subservient to the "Aryan master race".

Or be brutally murdered.

Nazis are the trash of the world.
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>>1260909
Need a source on that, Bokshevik.
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>>1260909
>>1260894
Oh my... they've fallen for cliche American propaganda from the 40's. I urge you to think for yourselves and learn from non-bias sources.
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>>1260919
Non biased sources like /pol/ and stormfront.org.
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>>1260919
I don't need to read anything when I have relatives who lived through and survived those things. But since you're probably an /pol/ack my facts are too much for you. But regardless I don't need to shove down truth down anyone's throat. And lastly any source that denies nazi atrocities is highly biased and far away from reality.
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>>1260919
>and learn from non-bias sources.

Like what?
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>>1260937
Are you saying a person who says that the nazis didn't make lampshades out of human skin and force feed 5 year old Jewish boys the ashes of their parents are bias?
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>>1261040

That's a pretty pathetic strawman, provide these non-biased sources already.
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>>1261047
Wasn't a strawman. There are claims of dead Jews being made in lampshades and soap.
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>>1261057

There are people who say a lot of fucking things, but nobody said that in this thread. Address what these people said, instead of conjuring up the most extreme examples you can think of to substitute them instead,
>>1260909
>>1260894

Then provide those non-biased sources, I'm still waiting.
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>>1261080
It's common knowledge he wanted to extend his "reich" to the Urals. If that's not what you were asking for then I suggest you check out the War Of The Century - When Hitler Fought Stalin documentary, where Germans admit to crimes against humanity, and research the 36th ss division during the time when they ran rampant and raped and also killed kids, young men and women plus elderly. And also in that doc are also mentioned soviet absurdities, not only german ones. Also pretty sure in The Ukrainian Insurgent Army Chronicles 1942-1954 documentary the insurgent army vets recall how "victorious german liberators" executed nationalistic Ukrainians.
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The only thing Hitler was right about was his decision to blow his brains out.
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>>1260966
me
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>>1261676

Calm down goldstein.
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>>1260847
Who the fuck are you kidding? He wouldve spared Italy and Japan to not appear 100% cockroach, outside of that get your guns ready if their your neighbor.
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>>1261753

They would have done what the US has done, infiltrate the governments and economies and make vassals.
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>>1260757
>we would never put women and children into concentration camps

Hitler ran up enormous debts which he never paid back for obvious reasons so essentially billions of dollars flowed from international finance into Germany. Even if you believe in le new world order international finance illuminati conspiracy, it doesn't apply here.

Germany was never penalized for failing to pay back reparations as liberals in Britain and France viewed it as unfair amidst the great depression, Hitler talks of reconciliation so starting a war over having been made to pay some reparations in the past is out of proportion, especially in light of the appeasements of Neville Chamberlain. Unless you unironically believe that the Gleiwitz incident was the prelude to Poland invading Germany there is no justification for any of this.

Anyone worldly enough can see that this is just "muh oppression" style propaganda and there is no truth to it.
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>>1261676
Hitler blowing his brains out was a Soviet lie they made up to make paranoid Stalin feel good about himself.
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>hitler actually did nothing wrong meme
This, and the idea that Germany was suffering because of reparations are perhaps Goebbels greatest propaganda.

You can remove everything about jews from the history of WWII, and still be left with a mountain of corpses and failed smug decisions that made the entire citizenry of a country look like monsters.

Yes, the trials were unfair in how those persecuted were treated. Not everyone was out for blood, the majority who weren't higher ups did what they did because the alternative was killing themselves and their families.

Yes, Jews are too often the centerpoint of WWII despite their deaths being a drop in the bucket of awful shit that happened during this war.

Yes, the records are fucked, and inaccurate at times for a number of reasons, some of which because there is an agenda

Yes, the German soldiers were not all baby raping villains(However, don't even act like rape wasn't encouraged and expected with Soviet and German forces.)

No, this does not make Hitler good man who fell victim to "the Jews" or any of western media. Accept already that this man and the high up company he kept were cocksure lunatics, and then maybe your political movement and the entirety of /pol/ wouldn't be fucking mocked by everyone.
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>>1261837
>anyone who supports Hitler must be from /pol/!

When will this meme die?
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>>1261811
If it was a lie, it was a shitty one.

Stalin questioned the legitimacy of Hitler's death, and always wondered if he managed to escape.

If he didn't kill himself there, and actually managed to flee I would be surprised considering how much his failures in Russia broke him.

Whether not he lived doesn't really matter though considering he likely would have spent the remainder of his life in hiding, and in deep depression.
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>>1261852
>what is reading comprehension
He said AND the entirety of /pol/.
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>>1261862
>associating the NSDAP with /pol/
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>>1261837
To be fair, the Nazis weren't nearly as bad as the media portrays them to be.
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>>1260757
Fuck yeah
He was saving the world
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>>1261880
>killing people because their skull had the wrong form
Can't get more stereotypical than that
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>>1261801
Straight out of churchill's history of ww2
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>>1261852
>>1261868
>your political movement and the entirety of /pol/
Read that again you fucking idiot.

Out of everything in my post, you resort to getting upset over my mention of /pol/ as if everything I said was to criticize that board.

There are an overwhelming majority of people on /pol/ who sympathize with some or many of the ideas of the Nazi party, or simply feel they are too often portrayed as comical villains.

There are good points to be made by these people, and the Nazi party was not the personal representation of Hitler's asshattery.

My point is that none of this good is ever going to be seen if so many continue to hold up the worst aspects of the Nazi party as good things. It'd be a hell of a lot easier to portray German soldiers in a good light if you didn't try to support the people in government who are responsible for every reason we put soldiers from Germany in a bad light.
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>>1261883
That was far more Hitler, and the select group of higher up's thing than it was the party, soldiers, and citizen's. The majority of outrageous bullshit that is constantly brought up when it comes to Nazis is almost always the fault of Hitler and his chosen elite composed of extremists.

The man set himself up for failure when he decided those closest to him should be those who went above and beyond agreeing with his every word.
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>>1261890
>implying Churchill was wrong
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>>1261912
It's pretty easy blaming the populace when the populace is following these extremists
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>>1261922
What fucking choice did they have? Are you going to tell me any soldier in WW1 had a choice? I'm sure glad all those people sent draft cards for Vietnam could have just said no.
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>Kaiser Wilhelm II tells Bismarck to GTFO and fucks up Germany's alliances
>Turmoil ensues and leads to war, Wilhelm II having a small dick and being butthurt about it doesn't precisely help
>Germany happily goes to war thinking it'll be like 1870
>Germany gets BTFO big time
>Has to pay reparations
>Barely even pays those reparations, but stil gets massively butthurt over treaty of Versailles
>HURR DURR GERMANY DINDU NUFFIN DA JOOS AND DA BRITS AN DA NU WORLD ORDA WANT US TO DIE DEM SO EVIL

tl;dr he was just butthurt because Germany got fucked in WW1.
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Ah, the good old external enemy
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>>1261931
>What fucking choice did they have?
Not contribute to massacres.Not killing, raping and pillaging in eastern Europe. You weren't forced to do so with a gun to your head.
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>>1261942
Spotted the Internal Jew
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>>1260919
Here's a source for you: http://www.mp.gov.si/fileadmin/mp.gov.si/pageuploads/mp.gov.si/PDF/poprava_krivic/Crimes_committed_by_Totalitarian_Regimes.pdf
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>>1261949
>.gov
Good goy
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>>1261944
What is war?
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>>1261900
"Nazi" party.

Tell me more about this "Nazi" party.
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>>1261945
da joos!
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>>1261957
>What is war?
So if I am a soldier I am forced to rape, pillage and kill civilians
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>>1261964
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party
>inb4 you focus on the "left wing" of the party
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>>1261944
>You weren't forced to do so with a gun to your head.
Actually, yes. Yes you were.

In the best of situations you faced legal consequences, in the worst of situations you and your family were killed by the other thousands of soldiers who didn't want to be in your place.

Read up on Stalin's methods for keeping his military in order before you so eagerly start talking about how easy it is to say no to a government.
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>>1261953
Provide me some quality sources that refute totalitarian crimes, then.
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>>1261966
Apparently so. Ask the soldiers who went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Even US soldiers settling in bases in Japan are raping Japanese women too.
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>>1261969
>Wikipedia

Excellent goy.
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>>1261976
>What are sources
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party#Notes
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>>1261966
You are expected to follow orders. This could and often includes killing civilians.

The rape and pillaging are side effects of the general wear war has the mind. The men and women participating in these acts usually saw their comrades murdered, homes burned down, and spent months in conditions that drove many to suicide. Raping the enemy, and looting what little they have are the only joys these soldiers reduced to animals could get.

What fucking fantasy land have you lived in that you can take interest in /his/ and not understand the basics of war?
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He WAS right about what he said, but that doesn't mean he was good. The Nazis were pretty subversive too and did a lot of unprincipled shit even if you take away the genocide meme.
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>>1261979
>Stackleberg, Roderick.

You are the best goy I have came across.
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>>1261994
Yes, but you have to look at who was doing it and why. The current world is too quick to forget the commonplaces actions that nearly every military took part in.

America and Britain were certainly on the softer side, but even they took part in rampant looting, and the killing of pows.
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>>1261994
>The Nazis were pretty subversive too and did a lot of unprincipled shit even if you take away the genocide meme.

Yes good goyim. Tell me more about the nazis.
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>>1262012
See >>1261949.

Anyway, where are you /pol/tards from? I doubt you're from any of the countries that were under Axis occupation.
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>>1262012
Why don't you tell me more, enlightened one.

I'm sure you are a well of wisdom in the ocean of goys, and their Jewish puppeteers.
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>>1262029
HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT GOYIM! I AM THE LAST OF MY FAMILY AND WE ALL GOT TURNED INTO SOAP!!!!!

Never forget the six gojillian.
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>>1262012
They dindu nothing, clearly
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>>1262036
/pol/ really is the lamest of all the boards. If you have to shit up other boards, you may as well think up of something new to write.
So, are you an American? A German?
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>>1261912

Normally when one refers to "the nazis" they mean the people making decisions about policy and the people in the party carrying out that policy. Just because not everyone was a lunatic doesn't mean that calling "the nazis" shitty people is misplaced, there isn't a need to add a disclaimer "but I'm sure some were nice people" every time.
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>>1262039
>did a lot of unprincipled shit
>dindu nuffin

Pick one.
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>>1262054
Here comes the >le /pol/ meme again

Do you goy have anything else to rebuttal with?
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>people make the claim that you can't generalize the nazis all into one camp because surely they weren't evil
>seem to unironically have no problem blaming "the jews" for everything just because of a jew shitty jews

If these people can propose that "because some nazis in decisionmaking positions behaved immorally doesn't mean all nazis were immortal" why do they struggle so hard to conclude "because some jews in decisionmaking positions behaved immorally doesn't mean all jews are immoral"?
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>>1262072

Do you think that shit like "YESS GOOD GOYIM" is worthy of a strong rebuttal?

When you're spouting shitty /pol/ memes with nothing of value in your post, you get treated like you're a /pol/ shitposter. Shocking, isn't it?
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>>1262072
I'm waiting for you. I provided a source and only got the usual joo stuff in return.
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>>1262054
Because reactionaries do not enjoy facts, they enjoy fantasies that allow themselves to feel superior.
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>>1262055
You're right, there isn't. The problem isn't that they don't add a disclaimer, it is that is that everyone involved with "the nazis" is treated in some way like a criminal, and in schools (at least American) the entire country of Germany might as well have been composed of comic book villains.

I get why this happens, but this doesn't mean I like it.
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>>1262082
Just stop. He knows this isn't /pol/, and that he can't post his infographics as an argument. Wait for him to return to his stormfront circle jerk because God knows his arguments could never hold up unless 20 other stormposters join him in spouting the same bullshit while calling everyone else "JIDF" and "goys".

Since you're too chickenshit to post your infographics, have one of mine.
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>>1262082
Yet another >le /pol/ response

Lol you never learn, do you?
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>>1262095
>Because Jews do not enjoy facts, they enjoy fantasies that allow themselves to feel superior.

Fixed that for you. Think before you self project.
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>>1262116
Thanks, I'm saving this.
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>>1262116
>everything i don't agree with is a stormfront
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>>1262185
>uses typical /pol/ memes
>cries when called out for it
Again, let's see some sources that Hitler dindu nuffin.
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>>1262185
>everything stormfront says about the holocaust and Germany is a fucking lie
fixed that for you
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>>1262192
gimme those sources on Hitlers kill everyone who didn't have blonde hair and he wanted to invade the entire
>>1262205
Their probably more trustworthy than you white guilt faggots
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>>1262227

>gimme those sources on Hitlers kill everyone who didn't have blonde hair and he wanted to invade the entire

What's with you retards and just substituting completely different arguments to argue against rather than actually addressing literally anything the person is actually saying?
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>>1262227
>white guilt
>you cannot possibly love the white race without loving Hitler
You're either fucking with me, or one of the few retards stormfront has managed to brainwash this deeply.

Either way, keep going. I'm interested in seeing what garbage you're going to manage to post next. I hope you are enjoying all these (you)'s.
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>>1262227
Nice strawman. I have given you a source that writes of the national socialist and fascist crimes (as well as communist crimes). Either provide your own sources or fuck off.

Also, I'm a nationalist. I would be a traitor if I was a Hitler worshipper like you. Again, I will presume that you do not live in a country that was occupied by the Axis; if you are, you're even more stupid than you seem.
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>>1261837
>(However, don't even act like rape wasn't encouraged and expected with Soviet and German forces.)
https://youtu.be/LQdDnbXXn20?t=2m17s
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>>1262234
>engage in a discussion on history
>dodges whenever sources are needed
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>>1262192
>uses typical /pol/ memes
>dindu nuffin

Lol
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>>1262271
Some didn't just as some Soviet forces looked at others in their army as pigs for what they did to women and children

I will take back my use of the word "encouraged" as I was thinking of Stalin's justification for the gruesome acts committed by both sides, but expected still applies. This isn't to say that you should expect to be violently raped whenever the Germans showed up, but it wasn't a one in a million occurrence.

I will say the German military was incredibly respectful to those women fighting on the Soviet side. There was a policy of not touching the female soldiers if captured up until the Germans realized they were fucking animals on the battlefield like every other Soviet, and realized their men would probably never get the chance to touch them since the Soviet troops would sooner run into a minefield than risk being labeled a deserter and shot by their own comrades.
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I take back everything I've ever said about Christposters.

Stormfags are 10,000x worse.
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>>1262300
They have gotten worse over the years. I feel many of them moved to cripplechan or came to /his/ and calmed down after they didn't have to be associated with the real trash of /pol/.
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>>1262279

You're demanding sources for things nobody claimed in this thread, to avoid verifying any of your own claims. You're busy instead arguing with a strawman you constructed, demanding people verify claims YOU pretend they made, because you're too busy with your own fantasy arguments and imaginary enemies than the actual things said in the thread.
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>>1262300
>>1262309
Naw, you Sjws are the worse
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>>1261653
>When Hitler Fought Stalin documentary, where Germans admit to crimes against humanity, and research the 36th ss division during the time when they ran rampant and raped and also killed kids, young men and women plus elderly.

Look at all the rape Germans did to the Soviets!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnjxckldHuY

5:05
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>>1262300
>Christposters
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>>1262309
>I feel many of them moved to cripplechan or came to /his/ and calmed down after they didn't have to be associated with the real trash of /pol/.
I've noticed this too. We still have the same right-wingers since the beginning of /his/ but they've overcome their bad habits and actually try to argue instead of shitposting, and when a newfag shitposts with some shitty /pol/ meme they don't get the hordes of backup that they used to.
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>>1262332
>you're an sjw because you present sources and facts!!!
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>>1262379
>sjws now think screaming stormfront at everything is constitutes as "sources and facts"
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>>1262437
>stormcucks continue to believe by spouting 'good goy' memes and 'jidf!!' that they'll ever been taken seriously in a discussion
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>>1262379
Still waiting on sources and facts mate
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>>1262477
I guess you still haven't checked http://www.mp.gov.si/fileadmin/mp.gov.si/pageuploads/mp.gov.si/PDF/poprava_krivic/Crimes_committed_by_Totalitarian_Regimes.pdf
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>>1262495
>.gov

Good goyim
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>>1262502
It's ironic how Hitler would inspire whole crowds and yet /pol/tards can only repeat the simplest of memes.

I'm still waiting for those enlightening sources, btw.
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>>1262526

>he wants sources in order to rationally verify claims

look at this goy
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>>1262533
Of course, this isn't /pol/ where anything the good old German boys say is sacred truth.
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>>1262533
>sources
>rational
What kind of goy do you take me for? I need only the whiteness in my heart to know that Hitler was a God damn hero who has been dragged through the dirt by the filthy fucking Juden who run our degenerate governments.

I would hope you too can share in the uncorrupted white genes, otherwise we'll have to take your head to the curb. Remember, Hitler never killed a single minority, but oh how I wish he killed all of them. I'm sure Hitler would taken me in with open arms, and not at all send me along with every other anon here to die by the hands of the Soviets.
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>>1262637
>/pol/tards actually believe this
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>>1262672
>/pol/isn't ashamed to be white
>this is somehow a bad thing
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>>1262467
>MUH STOMRFRONT
I respect them more than you revleft rejects
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>>1262993
>you have to be a Hitler worshipper to be white
For a non-German (possibly even someone whose country fought the Axis) to be a Hitler worshipper is simply laughable. Most of /pol/ qualifies since it's mostly Americans.
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We need a Zhukov in this thread
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>>1263078
Do you mean Gregory "smashin those American rations" Zhukov?
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>>1263060
to not be ashamed to be white*

Anyway, I wouldn't count as white according to Hitler the expert.
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>>1263060
This. I never understood that shit.
NS was literally GERMAN nationalist ideology. They held GERMANS to be supreme, the focus of their politics.
Everything else was pure propaganda to attract cannon fodder or make people stay away until it was their term to be conquered.
They didn't give a fuck about ''whites'', ''blacks'', or any such shit, unless it concerned Germans.
Aryan ''status'' was handed out liberally to everyone who served Germans.
To worship Hitler as a non-German is literally to be a fucking drooling retard.
Supreme irony here is that they are literally traitors of their own kind, while they foam at their mouth about traitors everywhere.
t. non-commie Slav
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Don't worry my Schneckchen, when the Allies start gang raping you and your little friends, Uncle Dolphie and his Nazi pals will be deep in our bunker, too far away to hear your screams.
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>>1263115
Indeed. I, too, am a Slav and and my grandfather fought so that the Axis couldn't achieve their goal of assimilating the "lucky" ones and deporting the rest.

I've asked /pol/tards shitting up /his/ before, where they come from but none dare answer. Some even argue that Hitler didn't want to harm any Slav at all because he was allied with some of them.
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>>1263205
>Some even argue that Hitler didn't want to harm any Slav at all
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>>1263222
It's also hilarious how I am a nationalist and a conservative and yet I'm supposed to be a white-hating marxist. I guess now I know the difference between a nationalist and a "white nationalist".
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>>1263043
Says more about you than any perceived SJWs here desu lad

also >implying your respect is worth a damn to anyone but yourself

I straight up don't respect you but I'm also not an SJW and this is my first post in this thread
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>>1263242
Just as the far left labels everything it does not like offensive, the far right labels everything it does not like SJW, anti-white, or liberal. The horseshoe theory is very real.

I don't try and make sense of any extremists views because they all invent their own facts to support their beliefs. There is no talking to these people because even if they know what they are saying is lies, as long as they come out feeling justified it is okay. They'd rather fabricate a story of their own persecution than let their arguments be tried.
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>>1263245
>I'm also not an sjw
Then why are you crying about those "evil" pro white posters invadung your safe space?
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>>1263538
>pro white posters
>a bunch of Americans worshipping a German who caused the deaths of millions of Europeans
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>>1263552
Hitlernwas an Austrian you shitlord.
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Not saying anyone was good or evil just that things usualy arent so black and white. My study of history as ive gotten older has shown me that churchhills comment about the victors writing the history is true. When you study any history you have to keep this in mind and pick your way through the propaganda as best you can.

Everyone has biases and those who want the closest representation of the truth has to recognise those biases, including their own.
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>>1263568
no he wasn´t, were all germans, either you live in germany, austria, switzerland or elsewhere
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>>1261852
Jesus learn to read. Plus, you and I both know /pol is full of racist nationalists, which was hitlers bread and butter
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He was a vegan tree hugging humanitarian hippy.
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>>1262072
Rebut what exactly you stupid pol/ack
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>>1263607
so you admit race defines whether you are german or not
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No, he was crazy
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>>1263596
Nothing you have said it wrong, and I'm glad people like you are coming to /his/, but Jesus Christ do you make it obvious you are either underaged or inexperienced in life.

Props though for realizing the basics to examining history, and not ending up a fucking retard who shapes facts to their opinions.

I have to ask, what all have you studied in depth so far?
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>>1263782
>Jesus Christ do you make it obvious you are either underaged or inexperienced in life.

Not sure how to take this. Im in my late 20's. I had the standard American public education, which is piss poor. I attened university for a year before deciding to study a trade instead. I try to read and learn as much as I can.

Most people are lazy and ignorant. They have preconcieved notions that govern what they will allow to enter their mind. If it doesnt reinforce those preconcieved notions and make them feel good they immediately dismiss it. They constantly feed their beliefs with "evidence" but never stop and consider the counter arguments.
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>>1261801
That's literally what Carthage did leading up to the second punic war. They just invaded more territory so they could pay off their war debt from the first punic war. And Rome wanted carthage destroyed so they used that as an ideological justification to declare war again. When one country fears the power of another country, they will do anything to keep them down.
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>>1260891
Can you give us a primary source to prove that hitler would of planned to do this?
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>>1264162
>American public education
You have nothing to be ashamed of then. Don't take what I said in a negative way. What you said in your post is the first realization most people have to make when exploring history. Outside of extremists, it is common sense. You came off the way you did because you were stating the obvious, but after thinking about the make-up of /his/, I can see no reason you shouldn't have.

Also, good choice on going with the trade. Outside of a select few degrees, university is a fucking waste. Most people I've met here are either in a trade, or one of the gifted autistic few who didn't get dropped from their engineering courses.
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>>1264215
fuck I wish I was smart enough to understand economics
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>>1264286
You don't need an economics degree to see the usual bullshit that gets used to defend Germany.

>muh Treaty of Versailles
Congrats, Goebbels. Even today your shitty memes are still being used to defend you.
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Ya know he promoted the rise of arianism in europe.
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>>1260828
>>1260847

except that the term "new order" was from Hitler you retards. He wanted a world where Germany was the super power that ruled over everthying, not Britain, or Russia, or America.

But he was too autistic to play the game of politics and just tried to use his army to achieve this, so of course the whole world rose up and crushed him
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>>1263115

Not a Hitler worshipper, but I'd say it makes "sense" for other Germanics since his goal was a world order where Germanics would have supreme status. Hitler also had some regard for other non-Germanic nations in Europe who would have a relatively comfortable, however powerless, position in his new Europe.
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>>1264275
A primary source that he planned to do what?

I don't believe that genocide was his intended goal when taking office if that's what you mean. I believe that it sprung up as what many of the hardline Nazis believed to be a matter of necessity. I think it's very rare that such brutality is planned out. It's the result of the chaos that is war. I don't think it was until the middle of the war at the Wannsee conference that they really decided what it meant to answer the Jewish question.

I can give you sources and books that I've read on this issue. Probably the best one I've read that seems to depict how this could have happened was Ordinary Men. The author examines a German police battalion that carried out some of the killing. Much of the book is based off of interviews with these very men.

History is a very fluid thing, it is very difficult to imagine the motives, emotions, and circumstances of the time. The truth is that the German military and government sanctioned the murder of a lot of innocent people.

But hey, so did the Allies, they just won so no one gives them grief about it.
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>>1265522
Anyone who believes Hitler went in as the lunatic he came to be known as is a fool. The man wasn't Stalin who held almost no value for life since the time he was a child.

Much of what changed Hitler was the people he chose to surround himself with. Those closest to him did nothing but encourage him, and this led to Hitler's many poor military decisions. It wouldn't be absurd to say this same encouragement changed his political views, and plans for the country.
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>>1265628
I believe this in part, but the guy really really didn't like Jews. I don't think he had genocide in mind at first but when it started happening he was pretty alright with it.
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>>1262166
there are several more:
http://imgur.com/a/PSmeN
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>>1266965
The Jews have always been hated throughout history, usually not any fault of their

I imagine in Hitler's over confidence the power he held went to his head. I wonder though if in his slog of depression he regretted any of it. I know he hated himself for his military blunders, but I wish I knew how he felt about everything else during this time. I wish there were a way I could ask him if it was all worth it, and what he would do if he could do it again from the start.
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>>1260757
World's greatest artist.

>Oh, you don't like my art? Not post-modern enough for you? Fine. How's THIS for post modernism!
>[European invasion intensifies.]
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>>1260757
I have to say, I completely lost it in his speech when he mentioned something to the effect of

>I stretched out my hand to the opposition parties in Germany
>they said no

How in the world does anyone actually take this at face value?
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