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ITT: countries that should not exist
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>>1259475
lol
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>>1259473
>Implying the partition didn't save South Asia
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>>1259423
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>>1259475
Looks like goatse.
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>>1259423
Almost everyone in this map.
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>>1259492
I don't want it to be India. I'm of the opinion that it should have been separated even more after losing Bangladesh.
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>>1259503
Which countries aren't shit?

>Egypt
>South Africa
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>>1259515
>South Africa
lol
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>>1259499
CANNOT UNSEE
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>>1259512
>Kiev
>Not Russia
Who's genius idea was this?
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>>1259515
Botswana.
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>>1259515
Tunisia and Morocco are okay, specially compared to everyone else in the map.

Then there are countries that aren't shit but should not stop existing, just stop being shit. Like Ethiopia to give an example.

Shit like Equatorial Guinea or the Central African Republic are just memes that went too far.
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Andorra, San Marino and all these other special snowflake states
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>>1259529
> Central African Republic
Most bland named country in the world. Like United States of America level bland.
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>>1259629
tfw no bongo bongo land
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>>1259512
Yeah, Russia is shit. I wonder if it survives low oil prices and sanctions.
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>>1259423
there is no such thing as a country that should not exist. There is no criteria for being a proper country, all that is needed is the popular consent of its citizens.

Except Belgium, fuck Belgium.
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>>1259678
the most pervasive and efficient intelligence apparatus. Try and be successfully separatist in the federation

>pro tip; you can't
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>>1259527
Botswana has AIDS and metalheads tho
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>>1259703
so much this
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>>1259423
It was working perfectly until freedom freedom something.
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Fight me
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>>1259726
That's not a country anon.
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All of them
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>>1259903
Hi Nigel
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>>1259917
DUDE WEED LMAO
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Should've been annexed by America after the war.
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>>1259518
underrated post
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>>1259917
Smash the State Class War Now
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>>1259678
Economy is growing
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>>1259908
The RoC looks weird.
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>>1260317
This t.b.h.
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t. Australian.
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>>1260328
Reasons for hating Azerbaijan:
- no culture / stolen culture
- turkified Persians and Lezgins
- claiming land that does not belong to them, want more (Derbent (Dagestan), North-West Persia)
- no history
- ...

Reasons against hating Azerbaijan:
-most Azeris I know are nice people
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ITT: People post countries they don't like
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>>1260346
Nobody said hating, it just should not exist. I don't hate belgians but it's a non-country and should not exist.
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>>1260355
I don't mean Azeris in general. I meant the Nationalistic and Turanfanatic Azeris.
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>>1260346
What should've been in its place? Iran, Armenia, Russia?
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>>1260366
Something like this
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turk leabe byzantium
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The big one
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>>1260420

need a pic for the USA that goes liek this
>top 10 pranks that went way too far
>top half of the image shows the boston tea party
>bottom half shows the present USA
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>>1259515
Ghana, Botswana and Namibia are all bretty good. Zambia isn't doing badly either.
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>>1259529

I remember reading a Human Rights Watch report that called CAR "not simply a failed state, but a phantom state that has had no institutional power or monopoly on use of force since at least 1979." Pretty fucking bleak.

It's like Game of Thrones level internecine wars that have gone on non-stop for 40+ years.
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>no kosovo
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>>1259492
India should have been partitioned more
Independent Hyderabad when
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>>1260429
tried my best for you anon
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>>1260460
> Game of Thrones
Wow! You aren't joking here.
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>>1260403
But the place is neither majority Iranian, Armenian or Russian. You may like those countries but doesn't mean your proposed state is stable.
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>>1259423
>Too many ethnicity living in one country. Kurds, shiites, and shias.
I completely agree with your statement.
>>1259442
England's alright; however, the United Kingdom's holdings in Ireland only create problems.
>>1259459
The only reason this should exist is the jews don't get holocaust'd again.
>>1259473
Pakistan should be broken up just like iraq. Their only plus is nukes and a pretty tight government.
>>1259503
Most african countries are united under one ethnicity or language.
>>1259512
Ukrainians are alright.
>>1259844
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Belgium
The french-communists from walloon are too different from the real dutch.
>>1259908
>its a country that has existed for over 2,000 years
>it shouldn't exist.
It was only a matter of time before the Chinese became a world power again.
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>>1260569
Officially not, but their ancestors are. They are just Turkified and assimiliated. Lezgins in the North (Dagestan) still are in majority in some northern parts.
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/thread
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>>1260666
>tfw there are people who think Palestine was an actual nation before 1948 and not just nomadic squatters living in a place that got its name from a Roman fuck you note to Jews

Yeah, its really important that a historically persecuted, stateless people whose entire religious/ethnic identity ties to this land have their New Jersey sized state taken away because Marxists decided ethno-religious nation states are suddenly bad if its not Islamic and is Western. Lets also perpetuate the conflict because while everyone knows its highly unlikely the Israelis will give in, its totally worth it to back the Palestinians to fight a lost cause because "some day we will return" "from the river to the sea", rather than help them get citizenship elsewhere or build an actual functioning society in Gaza/WB. A binational state is the best outcome and probably inevitable given the spaces involved, but the Palestinians need to first get over their vicious revenge fantasies and self perpetuating misery before expecting Israel to do more for them.
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>catalans, galicians, castillans, andalusians, basques and whatever else all hate eachother
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>>1260569
We could just do genocides then

Who cares ?
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>>1260317
>>1260346
>>1260403
>Country with more than 8 million people of the same nationality does not deserves to exist while even smaller countries with populations of 2-3 million and demographic problems(Armenia and Georgia) deserve
wow lad
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>>1260763

Why would anybody spend such time on making such a pointless map
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>>1260763
>or build an actual functioning society in Gaza/WB

Which is impossible because of Israel you nonce. Every aid project that the world does attempt to deliver to the palestinians is highjacked by the politically corrupt in the firght against Israel or otherwise sabotaged by Israel itself.

>A binational state is the best outcome

It will never happen. Israel will continue to oppress and harass the Palestinians who have/had just as ,much right to live there and continue to erode away bits and pieces of the west bank as they like with no repercussion.
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>>1260772
We hate guiris more t.b.h.
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>>1260420
This t.b.h. Canada too. North America sucks, balkanization when?
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United States, Germany, England, Russia, Lithuania, Turkey, Israel, Iraq, Palestine, India, China, those shitty countries bordering Russia, Yugoslavia, Romania, half of the mid-African countries, Taiwan, South Korea, North Korea, IS.

I hate pretty much everyone.
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>>1260591
>The only reason this should exist is the jews don't get holocaust'd again.

Pretty sure there's better, more impartial options. Well not now, back then.
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>>1260591
>Most african countries are united under one ethnicity or language.

Examples? Or examples of the ones who aren't if those are easier to list. I was under the impression that ethnic and tribal infight caused by arbitrary borders was harming Africa.
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>>1262372
>those shitty countries bordering Russia

I know, Finland was a mistake.

>Yugoslavia
Are you from this century?
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>>1260763
>implying the Israeli blockade of gaza and the checkpoints in the WB aren't seriously dampening any chance at economic development
The palistinians have a sever case of the dindus but the next move is israel's
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Belgium is the only real answer ITT (excluding Africa which is a waste.) We will see the destruction of Belgium in our lifetimes.
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>>1259459
This. Memest land ever.
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>>1259423
Most 3rd world countries shouldn't exist to be honest. The way countries got set up after colonialism wasn't in line with cultural or relgious ideas, more because country A had land and didn't wanna deal with it anymore.

I ain't no extreme liberal going "Evil westerns11!11" but I think you could agure that the countries could've been created more in mind with the actual population.
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>>1260591
>The only reason this should exist is the jews don't get holocaust'd again.
Well they couldve been repatriated in their countries in a Europe that is now a thousand times friendlier towards them.

Now they have their meme country but in a state of perpetual war.
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>>1259459
Calm down buddy.
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>>1259527
Why is Equatorial Guinea ranked so high? It's a shithole with the some of the highest income inequality in the world.
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>>1260460
>It's like Game of Thrones level internecine wars that have gone on non-stop for 40+ years.
Or an Ancap paradise
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To be honest, pretty much all Arab states created by Sykes-Picot are memes.
>Jordan: Completely baseless state with no historical legitimacy
>Libya: literally named by Italians
> Iraq: fuck that shit
>Lebanon:more like Plebanon
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>>1259423
Just let it collapse already
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>>1263673
The shi'a country would likely be called Arabistan
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>>1259515
>Egypt
>South Africa
>not shit

lel
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>>1259975
Too many blacks, the Senate thought making that many blacks citizens was icky
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>>1259518
kek
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>>1264246
>ISIS in Turkey
wat.jpeg
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>>1264391
It's not, the colored countries there are Syria and Iraq.
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>>1264391
>I can into geography
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>>1259515
cape verde and são tomé arent bad
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>>1264285
Or just Iraq.
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>>1263444
oil exporter
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>>1259473
Their inbred retardation must be contained.
Its only sad for the sikhs and kalashs caught in it.
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>>1263444
It's basically africa's Saudi Arabia minus witchhunting.
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>>1265097
>impliying Pakistan contains shit

They're literally everywhere.
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>>1262981
Fuck no, the jews need their containment nation, they can displace the westbank for all I care and dumpo the people in jordania, put them back here into europe and their whining about opression will drown out the churchbells in infernal butthurt kwetching.
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>>1265135
Slovaks got an own language and are very friendly people.
there are much worse countries out there.
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>>1262296
Spotted the muslim
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>>1265149
You mean spotted the turk.
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>>1259423
This thread was relevant to this

https://desustorage.org/his/thread/1228330/
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All of middle east and africa. If they had been genocided and conquered they wouldnt be aids filled cesspits today
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>>1262296
That statement just proves how little you know about this topic
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>>1263673
Sykes-Picot agreement wasn't even enforced.
The actual partition plan was completely different
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>>1265649
>Sykes-Picot agreement wasn't even enforced
well it was changed a bit...
its sykes picot and the fucking treaty of sevres that fugged up the middle east
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>>1259499

Macedonia IS goatse.
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>>1265084
>>1265099

It's my understanding that next to none of that money goes towards developing the country, though.

>>1259527
What I would like to know is what Gabon's doing so right.
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>>1265414
Proof that I am wrong
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>>1259678
Unfortunately, russians are used to living in poverty and being shat on by their government. Russia would implode if you gave them democracy, because they dont have a clue what to do with it.
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>>1262372
Lemme guess... Polak?
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>>1262390
>I know, Finland was a mistake.
Off yourself, fuckface. We founded Russia.
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>>1267704
>We founded Russia.
And thats why you deserve to be burned at stake.
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>>1267667
In Soviet Russia democracy shits on you.
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Any maps of Africa with sensible borders?
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>>1262363
kys
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>>1265703
That's why I used the saudi equivalence. Or you think poor arabs have good lives?
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>>1268901
You know it's true.
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>>1262939
M8, as a third world country, I'm pretty ok with the fact that Spain forged a country out of our bunch of islands.

Can you imagine if we Flips ACTUALLY based our country on ethnolinguistic boundaries? We'd be 10x more irrelevant. Not to mention all the possible wars.

It's really a hit and miss with Post-Colonial Entities. Some work out well while others didn't.
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>>1268988
But that can be said about any country. If the US wasn't here Communism would have engulfed the entire planet by now.
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>>1260488
t. telengana supporter
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>>1269023
flips cannot be more irrelevant. The only time I hear about flips is on twitch chat shitposting about pinoys
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>>1259903
Afternoon Nigel
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>>1265142
Why do these two look alike?
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>>1267704
>literal WE WUZ-tier bullshit spouting

nice going you autist
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>>1269081
No, there's smaller comfier countries. Communism would have not engulfed shit because Russia was a mistake too t.b.h. Yakut republic when?
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>>1264246
I don't know why Kurds are always showed separated with the rest. Its more like Shia - Sunni - Yazidi. There are Sunni Kurds and Shia Kurds, and the Yazidi (Kurds), which see themselves as an own nation.
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>>1269376
Because "sunni" and "shia" means sunni arabs and shia arabs.
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>>1269376
Than it should be Arabs - Kurds
Ethnicity ≠ Religion
Arabs - Kurds
Shia - Sunni - Yazidi
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>>1269419
Was me, replying to >>1269389
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>>1269349
>Communism wouldn't have engulfed shit because I think it was wrong

Gee looks like that'll stop those hordes of Russians from taking over, won't it!
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>>1269419
You're not understanding the purpose of those maps. The level of tension and struggle that exists between shia and sunni arabs doesn't exist amongst the kurds or plays a secondary role. Instead the strife is between arab/iraqi (on any kind) and kurd.

A map that divides between religion without taking into account ethnicity (or the absolute contrary, a map that only divides between ethnicity) is not satisfactory.
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>>1269464
You started saying "if the US wasn't here" when it's here, so you have no rights to attack arguments where other nations also disappear..
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>>1259423
Any country that was once part of the Ottoman Empire shouldn't exist. I dream of a timeline in which Ottoman Empire did not decline and turned into something like US or EU, but this unlike them it would be a union of all religions, very different cultures and different races. It would be a second Hellenic thing. Too bad it dissolved without developing a modern constitution.
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>>1269465
I understand the tension between Sunni and Shia very good. I am a Sunni myself, I don't hate most Shia, but I have an inner dislike. I know Kurds, Sunni Kurds. They don't see them as 1/3 part of Iraq, they see themselves as Sunni Muslims.
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>>1269497
get out mudslime
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>>1260591
>Ethnicities
>shiites
>shias

Stop
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>>1269544
Go back to /pol/ retard
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>>1269497
I know a Syrian Shia and he says that Sunnis are poor uneducated fucktard farmers.
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>>1270295
Shia are mostly dumb. Just look up Ashura and the teachings of their scholars.
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germany
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>>1268981
>Or you think poor arabs have good lives?

No, but it's my understanding that the poverty rate is still much lower in Saudi Arabia. 70% of people in Equatorial Guinea live under the international poverty line of $1.25/day.
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>>1269335
/thread
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>>1259515
Uganda is doing alright, especially after surviving a dictator like Amin.
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>>1264329
And thus losing out on decades of profits from tourism and cigars.
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t. Metternich
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>>1259423
So Pakistan?
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Belgium
Spain
Italy
Germany
Russia
Ukraine
Macedonia
The entire Middle East
Pakistan
India
North Korea

Probably some shitty African backwaters that were literally just put together from the collapse of european empires in the 20th century.
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>>1269023
You could easily slit the Philippines in three:

>ilocano led north
>tagalog led centre
>cebuano led south
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>>1259923
couldn't agree more with you anon, indonesia is a failure
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>itt: /his/ autists show how little understanding they have on history, politics or the world in general

Color me unsurprised
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>>1269483
>all those different cultures living together under one state with all of them having equal rights

It could have been beautiful.
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Please explain why Italy should not exist.
It is geographically distinct and homogenues and have a unique recognized national language.
It arrived lately on the wagon of united nations, but 20 years of fascism and especially 70 years
o Freemansory rule helped to create a national identity.

There is still a major economic and social gap between north and south but people that wish the country
divided are a ridicolous minority.
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>>1271773
To bad the young Turks ruined it for everyone
Then again one might as well blame it on nationalism in general.
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>>1271773
> all those different cultures living together under one state with all of them having equal rights
Agree with you, never forget. If only Enver Pasha wasn't a retard, both countries would survive or even won at the Great War
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>>1260763
Israel is pure evil. The Palestinians want to live normal lives, but the Zionists are bloodthirsty circlejerking invaders
http://newcenturytimes.com/2016/06/06/israeli-who-burned-palestinian-baby-to-death-released-from-custody-without-charge-video/
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>>1271841

This would be fun to play in EU
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>>1272156

Israelis have become very sick.
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>>1259903
They'll fight you and probably blow up your mums cars.
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>>1259423
USA
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>>1276688
Some sort of South Korea has always existed, it's North Korea that's more unhistorical.
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>>1262296
>>1262288
>>1260317
>>1260328
>>1265149
>>1265178
>>1265414
>all that brobrobro armo lobbying
Glendale shouldn't exist, you are hardly assimilated anyways, Go back to the Glorious Hayazdan you love so much so that LA can have a lower roadrage / creditcard scam record on its crimelist.
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>>1259515
Eritrea is the most based country in Africa
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>>1259923
>East Timor
>Indonesia

Self hater detected.
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>>1276697
North Korea is a isolationist kingdom. That is more korean than a globalized democracy
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There is no belgië, alleen vlaanderen.
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>>1276806
Cease right there Dutch!

La Belgique est française de droit!
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>>1270306
Heh, you sunnis got the wahabbis in your camp, so I wouldnt start throwing stones in a glasshouse.
>And then the devil made muhammed say the crane verses!
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>>1277136
"Wahhabis" don't exist
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>>1259844
REMOVE CROISSANT
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>>1259810
That sounds amazing
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>>1259423
Surprised it's not already in the thread.
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>>1259844
>>1260591
If anything, it should join up with the Netherlands (maybe Luxembourg) to create a federal kingdom with 3/4/5 parts
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>>1277664
So much unworthy of existing that people forgot it exists.
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>>1259423
Every country in this map
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Shouldn't this belong to Romania?
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>>1277664

Even if Bosnia would be divided out, the resulting borders would probably never be agreed - if they were, it would be difficult to administrate.
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>>1278096
fuck that is edgy
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>>1259499
FUGG
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>>1259529
Eithiopia should not be a county and is a shit hole.


T. Somali
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>>1281471
There's literally no worst country than Somalia. It's not even a country that shouldn't exist, it's a country that doesn't really exist.
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>>1278123
Used to, yes.
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>>1281482
Even though Somalia has problems with inter clan conflict. At least it is unified ethnically . There are over 70 official languages in Ethiopia. Half of the country is majority Somali and there are more Oromo and Somali speakers than Amharic
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>>1259810
Botswanan metal is awesome though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPe4aizlz9U
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>>1259442
Some of the cities marked here make no sense

Mainly Great Yarmouth being marked and not Norwich
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>>1269183
Wait...

Irish food and women are supposed to be better?

The women there look like Wayne Rooney and the food is... I mean you have stew? Well done?
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>>1281731
Not all states are nation states, and nation states are not necessarily good as Somalia proves.
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>>1281754
Don't tell him but all brits are the same. Irish don't even speak a different language anymore.
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>>1281762

I'm English and while you won't catch me defending our food against anyone but the Americans and the Germans, Irish food is just sooooo much worse than ours.
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>>1281772
German food is not that bad in my opinion.
Polish and Czech food is worse than either British or German in my experience and I never see people shit on them
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>>1281554
That's not a country though.
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>>1265703
>money goes towards developing the country
You say that as if saudi's do that either.
Instead it goes to building eyesores like this.
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>>1281832
Even better was the logic that led to that
>Historical sites are bad because muh idolatry
>so we're going to knock down this historical fortress and replace it with a massive monument to the house of Saud literally overshadowing the magic box

The Saudis are cancer.
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>>1267704
>We founded Russia.
>thinks that's a good thing
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>>1259423
Every Arab Gulf country and pretty much every sub-saharan African country.
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>>1260591
>shiites, and shias.
Wot
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>>1262981
There wer literally new pogroms starting in the east before WW2 even ended.
Western Europe might have accepted them back, but eastern europe had already gone back to business as usual with regards to jews.
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>>1276686
If your basis is for the sake of native tribes, then you should probably include every country in the Americas today, especially Canada.
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>>1281732
I never knew I needed this in my life. Now I want to see all of Africa become metalheads.
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>>1281803
I've only been to Munich so there may be some better regional food to be fair.

I mean I didn't even think of Slav countries when thinking about food (apart from Croatia)
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>>1259503
>draw a bunch of lines on the map, with complete disregard to language, culture and people
>expect shit to work
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>>1281732
>botswanan metal
>half the band is white
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>>1259515

Benin, Senegal aren't bad. Nigeria isn't bad either and has the largest economy on the continent.
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>>1282157
>Nigeria isn't bad either
>government massacres minorities and loses half the country to boko haram
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>>1260502

wow they really were kings and shit
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>>1281732

10/10 would listen again.
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>>1282175

Then just don't be a local minority duh. Also Boko Haram are getting their asses kicked.
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>>1262939
to be honest, you re not really charitable with your presentation. the colonies (or rather, tehir establishement) chose to have as fast as possible their independence, which led them to give birth to corrupt administrations and otherwise too quickly and badly thought boundaries. but at least now they have the priviledge of having poor access to healthcare, education, economic structures, infrastructures -oh, i meant freedom !!
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>>1259503
Probably everything buy Egypt, Morocco, Ethiopia and Tunisia are fake countries.
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Germany.

They're too destructive for their own good.

Germania Delenda Est
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