Would Fascism have succeeded if Western capitalist countries stopped their meddling and trying to make it fail?
>>1246937
Fascism started meddling with western capitalist countries first. They just retaliated.
>Fascism as a universal international ideology
It relies on an external enemy to keep the population focused. Conflict within fascism is inevitable
>>1247593
>it relies on an external enemy
>>1246937
If anything, the Western capitalist helped Fascism to bloom in both italy and germany.
In Spain, where the western capitalist democracies directly opposed the fascist movement, the fascists won.
So I'm not really sure what you're talking about.
>>1246937
no. in a globalist world fascism is doomed to fail.
>>1247593
this.
Can't find a single fascist dictator who didn't go to war.
Fascism in a nutshell:
>take loans
>build army
>employ people
>you're in deep loans now
>start war, hope to win
>>1247601
>In Spain, where the western capitalist democracies directly opposed the fascist movement
ur a moran
>>1247593
>muh weapons of mass destruction
>muh communist threat
>muh capitalist ideology
>muh colonialist presence
>muh fascist threat
Are you really implying that Fascism is the only political system that uses the idea of an external enemy to thrive?
>>1247607
Can't find a single communist regime that didn't go genocidal on its own population either.
>>1247700
>muh commies
Communists being dumb shits too does not invalidate the fact that Fascist economic policy essentially amounts to getting a loan from a bank to buy guns to go back and rob the same bank.
>>1247607
Better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep.
>>1247712
this is the dumbest shit i've ever read.
do you know what male lions do? they don't do fucking shit. they're neets. the females do all the hunting, the females raise the children, the females make sure everyone is safe. male lions ain't shit.
furthermore the life of a lion is boring as shit. i don't think the life of a goat is all that much more interesting, but you sure as hell see more interesting things in a hundred years than you do in 24 hours.
this saying is very much representative of fascism, in my opinion.
when you first read through it you think: "oh, that makes sense. i'd rather live one day with pride than live a hundred years as a slave animal!", but then you use your brain for just a split-second and you realize it's a retarded idea. like fascism.
you might think you're alexander the great for a day, but I get to be diogenes for a century.
>>1247725
autism
>>1247700
>the idea of an external enemy
They don't just use the idea. In most cases they actively seek one and fight them.
The USSR may have gone "m-muh capitalists" and built up a large army, they still didn't hop the into West Germany nukes flying the first chance they got.
When fascists aren't seeking an external war, they're more likely to focus on the internal enemy of communism.
>>1247700
Why do fascists always resort to MUH COMMIES like anyone likes them too, or that there's actually a significant number of fascists, and the only other viewpoint from theirs is communism?
>>1247593
Franco and Mussolini prove you wrong
>>1247725
It's a quote. It has less to do with the reality of nature and more to do with perceived reality. Most people perceive sheep to be meek and lions to be strong. Nothing else matters.
Autist.
>>1247725
Also, the original quote makes no reference to gender. Your "point" on male/female lions is worthless.
>>1247593
>le fascism stared the war meme
>>1247829
Because so they are so delusional that they think everyone making fun of them must be communist shills.
>>1246937
No, Fascist countries failed because Autarky is a pretty fucking stupid policy.
>>1247906
No it's not.
>>1248064
Yes it is. Having no trade outside your nations borders never works out. You lose markets in exchange for a fucked up economic clusterfuck.
>implying Western capitalist countries AREN'T fascist
If a government passes legislation that benefits corporations, bails out corporations, and/or receives products from corporations, then that government is fascist.
>"Fascism is the marriage of corporation and state."
t. Mussolini
>>1247782
>They don't just use the idea. In most cases they actively seek one and fight them.
pretty much this.
the spenglerian idea of strength through struggle was critical in building nazi ideology. spengler argued that the history of human existence is not a history of time but rather a history of culture. through the aeons the way that culture has provided stability and prosperity for its people was through victorious conflict. kulturkampf, volkskrieg, these are all ideas that would be fundamental in Nazi thinking. also refer to junger's storm of steel, the notion being that even though the first world war was a horrific defeat, the german people found a sense of national brotherhood and cultural unity through the sacrifice that they had never had before.
in the discussion of facism people tend to forget that a fundamental element of it is a highly militarized, martial society. there were plenty of radical right-wing thinkers in the inter-war period that held the idea that through a state of constant marital struggle was how society and culture was going to flourish.
>>1248334
>Having no trade outside your nations borders never works out
That's why you invade Europe and expand your borders
>You lose markets in exchange for a fucked up economic clusterfuck
In a WW you can't rely on trade because every country will pick a side. It is better top be independent
>>1248037
i was only pretend to be retard etc
>>1247906
This.
Spain (my country), had to ask for financial help to the US in 1956 because autarchy fucked the rest of the economy that survived after the civil war.
Franco continued in power, but not with real convinced fascists, but with technocrats.
>>124835
>Being this ignorant
Corporations meant something else in that context. They were organisms supervised by the state where business owners and employees discussed their interests.
>>1247700
>Can't find a single communist regime that didn't go genocidal on its own population either.
that's WHY THEY BOTH SUCK MOTHERFUCKER
>force people into makework and the military
>we don't say 'slave labor', we say 'zero unemployment'
>>1248366
>the spenglerian idea of strength through struggle
wat
Oswald Spengler?
>>1248449
precisely him.
>In his later works, such as Man and Technics (1931) and The Hour of Decision (1933), Spengler expanded upon his "spiritual" theory of race and tied it to his metaphysical notion of eternal war and his belief that "Man is a beast of prey".
it's important to note that spengler himself was not a nazi (at least IIRC), but his writing had a major influence on the inter-war radical right.
>>1247593
All ideologys require boogymen to propel it
Socialism - Capitalist Bourgeois
Liberalism - Totalitarians, oppressors of individual rights
>>1248354
Corporatism =! Corporate Bussiness
>>1248385
The Fangalists never had the oppurtuntiy to implement their social-economic policies under Franco, Spain always remained a conservative capitalist state so it's not a example really of Fascist performance
>>1248472
It's just from my reading (admittedly not in the German), it didn't seem like it would support the right wing.
There is the division between 'kultur' and 'zivilization', which the radical right (and left) are the only ones to really explore, the mainstream ignores the distinction.
>>1247706
>Fascist economic policy essentially amounts to getting a loan from a bank to buy guns to go back and rob the same bank
kek, so true. I hadn't thought of it this way before.
>>1248354
You don't understand what he means by corporation.
>>1248519
Then go on...
>>1248538
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
>>1248378
>That's why you invade Europe and expand your borders
Then you get rekt and wonder why everyone hates you.
>>1248493
>Spain always remained a conservative capitalist state
So you agree it was fascist then
>>1248590
Are you 12?
>>1248590
It would also have to be Christian for it to be fully fascist...
oh yeah Spain is Christian.
>>1248644
Just kill yourself
>>1248546
The corporations anon was talking about are certainly a form of corporation that corporatism talks about.
The difference seems to be between some countries allowing an unlimited number of corporations to be established, and some assigning a limited number of corporations to specific sectors/fields/industries.
>>1248614
Are you? Mussolini states perfectly that fascism doesn't seek to usurp the capitalist system, rather to bring it under the arm of the state.
>>1248663
Conservative, capitalist, corporatist, Christian, it's pretty much standard fascist growing conditions.
German 'fascism' is the real outlier, and I blame protestantism.
>>1247865
It's a shitty quote, who's thematic elements are based off a dubious understanding of nature. And it goes on to say basically nothing other than:
AssERRT YOURSelf! yAY!!!1
I could have gotten that message from thinking maybe 5 minutes about my day to day. No dime-store Platonism is necessary, no matter how desperately those who use them try to be deep.
>>1247831
>what is the second italo-abyssinian war
>>1247639
To be fair, both of you are wrong. Western Capitalist Democracies stayed entirely neutral during the Civil War.
>>1247831
Franco wasn't a fascist
>>1248590
For everyone who responded seriously to this thread: it's nothing but a parody of >>1246065.
>>1249894
Define capitalism.
>>1246937
Why do people forget that Ford, IBM, and a shit ton of other corporations/capitalists aided in the development of fascist countries because of their fascism?
>>1249894
So Fascism was meddling itself. Wow I never knew that.
>>1249899
Ford also aided in the development of communist countries, though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAZ
>
In May 1929 the Soviet Union signed an agreement with the Ford Motor Company.[1] Under its terms, the Soviets agreed to purchase $13 million worth of automobiles and parts, while Ford agreed to give technical assistance until 1938 to construct an integrated automobile-manufacturing plant at Nizhny Novgorod.
>>1249898
Private ownership of the means of production, operated for capital accumulation via a wage labor and market relations economy.
>>1246937
Capitalist systems are a prerequisite for fascism, ya dunce. Nearly all the western capitalist societies had a fascist movement, it's just that they didn't kindle the same way the German and Italian strands did.
Fascism is the wedding of corporate and state power. The state is armed and buttressed by industry, while industry is ravished by state sponsored endorsements, investments, contracts and legal support.
>>1249922
>Private ownership of the means of production
Doesn't exist anymore.
Capitalism as an historical phenomenom existed in the XIXth to the early 20th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain
>>1249922
>Private ownership of the means of production
Is it always capitalism when there is private ownership?
>>1249994
Even when 0.00000000001% of the ownership is private?
>>1249999
Are you talking about absolute monarchies? Feudal states didn't have private ownership of the means of production. Hence early capitalist theorists (classical liberals) arguments for a new economy based on private property.
>>1250016
No. I'm asking whether or not it would still be capitalist if 0.00000000001% of the ownership is private, I don't care about feudalism.
>>1250016
>Hence early capitalist theorists (classical liberals) arguments for a new economy based on private property.
There were no "arguments for a new economy". Private property developed in England in the 16th and 17th centuries as a result of political changes (most important one was the Dissolution of the Monasteries) and only later classical liberals like John Locke and Adam Smith began to analyze and rationalize what happened, the labor theory of property from which both capitalism and communism are derived is an example of such rationalization.
One of the greatest insights of neo-reaction is it's rejection of Lockean property theory.
>The enlightenment failure has been to begin its analysis of property from the problem of justification [...] To depart from an axiom of legitimate original property acquisition through work, as Locke does, is already proto-Marxist in implication, resting on philosophically hopeless metaphor, such as that of ‘mixing’ labor with things. It is property that defines work (over against non-productive behavior), not the inverse [...] ‘Property’ — as a social category — is a legitimation of control. It cascades conceptually from sovereignty, and not from production [...] Property, in the end, is not sociopolitical recognition of rights, but keys. What you can lock and unlock is yours. The rest is merely more or less serious talk, that only contingently compiles.
Nick Land
This is why I say private property doesn't exist, since sovereignty ultimately rests with the central government. Private usufruct, even of the biggest businessmen, is only possible through buying political influence from the central government, who is the true owner.
That's why I joke that the Brazilian banker Daniel Dantas is the first private proprietor in centuries. Since the government cannot obtain access to his obtain access hard-drives, all the information and the "means of production" therein is truly his.
>>1250028
I see. It's a strange question because at that percentage private ownership simply doesn't exist. The means of production is exactly that, value productive private property. If 0.00000000001% of the means of production is privately owned, even if he can somehow produce a commodity he wouldn't have buyers since 99+% of the means of production is commonly owned.
>>1250067
>Nick Land
>>1250067
>There were no "arguments for a new economy".
No, Adam Smith is pretty clear about opposing mercantilism for a liberal economy, granted mercantilism was a downward trend by that time.
And that's not what private property means, it just means it's owned by someone and they have rights to it. I could come into your house and murder you and take all of your things but just because I'm able to do so doesn't mean it's not private property. Similarly, governments can sometimes seize property and that may be a kind of philosophical conflict to some, but it doesn't change that the same government enshrines the right of private property. Also there are other aspects of capitalism.
>>1248354
10/10 bait.
Nobody is this stupid.
What did he do wrong?
>>1250169
Nothing.
He was also not a "fascist".
>>1250206
But he admired mussolini.
He went fash during the 30s and went back later on in order to not be outrightly called out as one of the last fascist standing.
>>1247601
>In Spain, where the western capitalist democracies directly opposed the fascist movement, the fascists won.
The Soviet Union was the largest contributor to the Republican Spanish, IDK what you're talking about.
>>1250169
He wasn't immortal
>his smile, gone forever
>>1250364
You're already waiting for someone
>>1250493
remove dirty mouro pls
>>1246937
>Would Fascism have succeeded if Western capitalist countries stopped their meddling and trying to make it fail?
Western capitalist countries loved that shit.
>>1247706
clearest and most concise summary of fascism ever put to print
>>1249950
Well shit I guess this one rule of law invalidates the day-to-day operation of every major business across the world.
You sure schooled them with your wikipedia knowledge!
>>1249899
this
>>1249918
remember henry ford and his blueprint book that created the reich and ford continued to lead them to greatness
ford got plenty of reich medals for all his efforts, much like GM and the other corporations
nazi germany would not have existed and not have been able to kill millions without corporate support and partnership from GM, Ford, IBM, Carnegie, Rockefeller...
why do we ignore and tolerate the fatal, genocidal dictatorship of corporations?
>General Motors and Ford creates the motorized nazi war machine
>IBM partners with nazis to efficiently run the extermination of millions in Europe with IBM systems
>The Carnegie Institution and its sponsored movement spent millions to propagate American eugenic theories in post-WWI Germany, financing race science programs in universities and official institutions. These included the idea that Jews must be eliminated.
>Rockefeller funded Hitler’s chief raceologist Otmar Verschuer and his insatiable twin experimentation programs.
U.S. oil companies sold oil to Nazi Germany
it is well known that corporations exterminated billions in the last 200 years.
http://www.edwinblack.com/
http://www.nazinexus.com/
>>1249918
>GM's Opel was the largest car and truck maker in the Third Reich. When Hitler came to power, his nation was still primarily a horse-drawn country. From the outset, GM consciously mass produced cars and truck for the German military, becoming a major and indispensable spear of Nazi rearmament. This included the Blitz truck which became the mainstay of the Blitzkrieg that conquered Europe. GM concealed its American control of Opel through special executives committees and board directorates. After the War, GM took all the profit, including that gained from slave labor. After a Congressional investigation, GM tried to obscure the facts and pressured Washington about a special report on the company's activities. To this day, the company frustrates research efforts into its protracted and profitable involvement in Nazi genocide
>General Motors, James D. Mooney, received the Grand Cross of the German Eagle for his distinguished service to the Reich. "Nazi armaments chief Albert Speer told a congressional investigator that Germany could not have attempted its September 1939 Blitzkrieg of Poland without the performance-boosting additive technology provided by Alfred P. Sloan and General Motors".[20][21][22] During the war, GM's Opel Brandenburg facilities produced bombers JU-88, trucks, land mines and torpedo detonators for Nazi Germany
>>1251896
>confiscate Jewish assets. IBM solution: all banks and financial institutions were run by IBM cards which could be programmed to seek out the Jewish names and their accounts for seizure. Fourth: ghettoize the Jews. IBM Solution: cross-match families from their existing residences into crowded dilapidated slums so that in a single day, thousands of people could be efficiently transferred from point A to point B. Fifth, deport the Jews to camps. IBM solution: most of the railroads in Europe were routed by IBM punch cards. Create special depots to ensure that trains with cattle cars were made available to transport Jews to camps. Inbound, these trains were crowded with helpless humans. Returning, they were empty.
>IBM systems efficiently identify, track, manage, transport, and route of millions of prisoners to extermination
>IBM systems maintained efficient scheduling of trains transporting millions to camps
http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/
it was not mere business they actually made germany great again
>>1249918
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_Wars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_occupation_of_the_Dominican_Republic_%281916%E2%80%9324%29
>United Fruit wars
http://web.archive.org/web/20120717004708/http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/colombia/santamarta.htm
>Native US decimated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDeP7UiHz4w
would be logical to have a Museum of Smedley Butler
>I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902–1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
>>1248378
>That's why you invade Europe and expand your borders
Then (a) you lose.
(b) you realize even the entirety of Europe cannot provide everything you want indefinitely.
>>1248447
Fascism or Keynesianism? You decide.
Also
>Paid employment
>Slave Labor
[Also, given the state of the world at the time and limited nature of most welfare systems, zero unemployment, even in busywork, was a laudable goal. In a modern economy basic income is preferable to busywork as automation takes hold in more sectors.]
Fascism uses whatever economic system is most immediately convenient, which was capitalism many times.
>>1247712
would you call sucking ass being a lion?
>>1247712
Guess what happens after your day of being a lion is finished? You live as a bitch and then a sheep for 200 years. Also, that is the most edgy teenager thing I've read all week.
>>1248590
>>1251890
Soviet Union wouldn't have existed and not have been able to kill millions without financial support from Armand Hammer, Jacob Schiff, Olof Aschberg, Alexander Parvus etc
Why do we ignore the role of Wall Street in financing the Bolshevik Revolution?
>>1251914
Smedley Butler was a communist agent full of bullshit and the United Fruit Corporation did nothing wrong. Central America has gone to shit ever since they left.
>>1250862
>Waste lots of money on pointless wars in Africa against a bunch of commies/nationalists that you had no chance of eventually winning.
Maybe he did good for Portugal, but by not nurturing proper democratic tendencies in the colonies his heavy-handedness led to communists/retards taking over Angola and Mozambique.
>>1252389
>Africa
>proper democratic tendencies
>>1247607
> Can't find a single fascist dictator who didn't go to war.
Lee Kuan Yew. Look at the PAP and realise its just the British Union of Fascists, even the logos are the same. It was all highly influenced by Oswald Mosley. It developed in a certain way because a city-state that controls one of the most important shipping channels in the world has to develop in such a way.
If anyone says that fascism can't work, is racist or ant of the usual bullshit that goes along with calling something fascist point them in the direction of Singapore.
To go full /pol/ here, capitalism and communism are the two poles the jews created, two thesis that are never supposed to reach their synthesis (natsoc or fascism). That's why the world watched in horror as the "third option" became so powerful in a short time, and these two opposites banded together to defeat it.
>>1252840
Also note how libertarians/ancaps always compare it to communism while commies always claim it's the worst dimension of capitalism.
Again it's a jewish ploy to prevent people from reaching synthesis
>>1249931
Uh, no, the word corporation means something else in Fascism, it's an organisms where employers and employees of a certain sector of the economy have their interests discussed under the supervision of the state. In Fascism, the state makes sure classes cooperate with one another to accomplish the interests of the Nation.
>>1247725
wow thanks for le ebin science lesson faggot, no one cares
>>1253993
His methodology may have been off the mark but his point was a valid one.
People who claim that they'd rather "live one day as a lion rather than 100 years as a sheep" probably grumble while paying their taxes and are ok with wearing a uniform like any "sheep" would be, and if they really had a problem with conformity there's nothing stopping them from moving to a jungle or savannah and living like a lion.
Not to mention the fact that the animal that individual is lionizing (no pun intended) is in fact a vicious carnivore whose defining feature is his savage treatment of the young, old, and sick, and particularly their tendency to eat the cubs of other lions, so it's not like they're even that faithful to their own "race". They are epitome of the sort of crass self-serving beast with no loyalty to anything that doesn't serve their immediate needs, and that's probably an apt analogy for the kind of malcontent attracted to fascism, as well.
Ancient Greco-Romans thought of lions as kingly too, and often lost a considerable amount of money betting on them in the arena when pitted against a tiger, a larger, solitary loner who 9 times out of 10 completely trashes a lion.
>>1249931
corporation in fascism doesn't have the same meaning as in capitalism
corporation for fascists mean uniting a certain sector under a corporation , much like a guild of some sort , then the corporation under control of the government will not serve the market , but the interest of the nation and the state.
>>1246937
Only if they made the Atomic Bomb first
>>1246937
Would [IDEOLOGY] have succeeded if [IDEOLOGY] stopped their meddling and trying to make it fail?
I made a thread asking this more general form of the question once, and the answers I got varied from "Successful ideologies are immune to meddling" to "All ideologies will meddle and be meddled with" to "Might is right."
So, IDK...
>Communist show fascist inventions and good business relations and good economy as bad thing
>>1249847
how was he not? didnt Spain send an entire division to help siege Leningrad?
>>1255305
>>1250234
>>1250206
>>1250169
Should check out Stanley Payne, who wrote Fascism:A Working definition. In it he talks about "fascist vertigo", which is basically the idea that any movement vaguely right copyied superficial fascist ideas during the 20's through to the early 40's, because they appeared to be hugely successful.
He also writes about how Franco, Salazar and others were not fascist, or heads of fascist regimes. Actually, there's only really one or two regimes which can be described as fascist without having been seriously compromised by traditional conservative politics or other right movements, and they are Nazi Germany and maybe Fascist Italy. This ties into a really well laid out division between fascist, far right, and conservative right authoritarian movements, and it's the only definition I've seen which accounts for the attitudes of the period while constructing a definition useful to historians and political scientists.
>>1255515
>>1255305
Basically, working with fascists at a time when it looked like they might dominate the world doesn't mean you are one. I just finished doing some work on Franco and Spain and it's really clear that largely the prominence of the falange in constructing Franco's regime was to his own benefit and not theirs.
>>1255529
Can you explain to me in a nutshell what the Spanish civil war was about?
>>1252389
Hey, I never said he was perfect. He was till breddy good tho.
>>1255539
In a nutshell? It was an military coup by the right-wing "nationalists" against a weak government headed by a left-coalition of "republicans", which failed and blew out into civil war.
(The quotation marks don't mean I think the titles are wrong, I just want to indicate that these groups had huge ideological diversity within them)
>>1255539
Franco saved Spain from 70 years of Soviet domination.
>>1247725
>do you know what male lions do? they don't do fucking shit.
That's the point.
>>1252380
>>1252377
p. 27: “If one applies methodical concepts to the United States, one sees that within a few decades the corporate power of capital crushed and destroyed the Native Americans and Puritans, the free and independent citizenry, and the independent farming class. If one may use a frequent and often misused word, human freedom itself was destroyed. The methods were different, but the results identical with what happened under Bolshevism, with the same ice-cold contempt for humanity.”
the Okie migration to California in the 1930’s came to shit.”With very few exceptions it was the best entrepreneurs and freedomers that met its bitter fate here: Americans from formerly good indentured farming families. And their fate is a terrible accusation against the American system, which reduces people to numbers and sees everything only from a single standpoint: profit. May the world collapse, may hundreds of thousands, even millions perish — as long as the profits are good. What kind of world is it in which workers prefer to sleep in the fields rather than back in camp out of fear that otherwise someone else will steal their job the next morning! And all this for 60 cents a day...
>>1257153
The point is that most jobs aren't even required anymore, industry is largely automated and most office workers do nothing but pointless presentations and phonecalls
So your job is unfullfilling compared to the future where you plowed a field and reaped the rewards of your work
Also most jobs are bullshit part time shit created by politicians so they can say 'HEY LOOK WE BROUGHT UNEMPLOYEMENT DOWN TEE HEE'
When i worked in a shipbroker i did phonecalls all fucking day to get a charter contract and the only contracts we got the client was desperate/decided enough so that he would still book it with us even if i was never there
Im so glad i got out and got in the coastguard, honest work for the goverment and maximum job security , fuck 'job hunting' 'careers' and all that yuppie bullshit
People should get state assigned jobs and all the rest get free basic income ( the ones with jobs are the most talented and get even more money)
Job hunting is the most degrading and disgusting practice in the world
http://strikemag.org/bullshit-jobs/
>>1248590
By that logic the UK is Fascist since the Govt is Conservative and it's Capitalist in nature.
>>1247601
Both France and the UK pussyfooted around intervention but were definitely sympathetic to the Republicans. The USSR, a non-Western, non-Capitalist country was the biggest donor to the Republican cause through their aid of the Communist (ML) Party
>>1248677
Mussolini, the man who invented fascism no less, was an atheist.
>>1247725
>being this assblasted
He didn't make a reference to gender you dumb queer. Go back to 9gag.
>>1255539
Coup attempt by the military which was supported by the clergy, rural folk, most of the military, and falange against the weak Republican government of liberals, socialists, urban folk, and trade unionists. The coup failed and led to civil war. Mind you that in the 100 years prior there was constant infighting and regime changes.
>>1257537
But the people whose vote he courted were not
>>1257540
>He didn't make a reference to gender you dumb queer. Go back to 9gag.
His method was off the mark but his point was a valid one
The anon he was quoting was having fun with symbols, but behind symbols, or the way we want things to be, is an actual reality, or the way things actually are.
Breaking people down into black and white terms like "lions vs sheep" is grossly over-simplifying human behavior
>>1247725
You're autistic.
>>1247725
Male lions fight off the rival male lions who come to fuck their shit up. All the female hunting in the world doesn't mean anything if you're all dead.
>>1257910
>The reason female lions keep a male around is to protect them from other male lions.
Doesn't that technically make them "race" traitors, since they're hunting their own species into extinction? I mean it's not like Hyenas are cannibalizing each other out of existence and they're doing ok.
>>1249905
I think that's called diddling, not meddling
>>1247607
>Can't find a single fascist dictator who didn't go to war.
Franco.
>>1260014
Not a Fascist
>>1260074
Is this the new "not a true communist" ?
This fucking board gets worse by the day
>>1257969
>there were lions in greece
Holy shit
>>1260098
Lions used to have the greatest range of any land mammal. They may have even gone as North as Britain
