How exactly did segregation start in America and why were there so many laws passed that kept non white people like this in fear during that period?
>>1224503
>How exactly did segregation start in America
Post Reconstruction
>why were there so many laws passed that kept non white people like this in fear during that period?
Because blacks were poor, spoke funny, and were seen as inferior because of their skin color. Plus when a black man committed a crime, it was a huge deal and would get people very angry and upset.
Were there any other countries that had something like the Segregation laws during that time period? I can't help but feel like America was the only place doing messed stuff like this
>>1224514
>What are Jewish Ghettos
Also Northern Ireland is still essentially segregated.
>>1224503
Post-reconstruction. Also, it's important to note the major difference in America vs all other nations that owned a massive populations of ethnically disparate slaves, like the Arabs, Romans, Egyptians, etc.
The ruling class of white plantation owners were nursed by black mammies/slave wetnurses and imprinted on them in their formative period. These white plantation owners, accordingly, felt sexual attraction to blacks that would be atypical for whites, in the same way that geese who imprint on small planes are more attracted to planes than other geese. Their psychological malformation filtered down in the form of cuckolding, race-mixing and other taboo fetishism like the BBC myth, and the neurotic ruling class codified laws to this effect accordingly.
Scientific racism was later informed by these views and further codified black slave descendants as hypersexual animals instead of a reasonably disorderly, poor, unskilled underclass. The meme has persisted for so long it has not only become integrated into the culture of America, but proliferated to blacks overseas as well through American media exports.
Post civil war. White people were butthurt they got BTFO, so they took out their aggression on black people.
>>1224514
Jews and Gypsies were segregated in almost every European country from the general populace.
>>1224514
>I can't help but feel like America was the only place doing messed stuff like this
No offense, but then you're either blind or simply ignorant
>>1224514
Rhodesia and South Africa come to mind
>>1224514
>something like the segregation laws
Venice, Zanzibar, the Maghreb and Arabian states, Qing China
>during that time period
Nearly every colony in Africa and the Pacific were segregated to some degree. The only ones that I know for sure were not segregated were German East Africa and Togoland.
>>1224514
Places without some degree of segregation were the exception, not the rule.
>>1225198
>Qing China.
>Segregation laws.
>>1224514
The Ottomon empire was highly segregated
>>1225248
>White piggu stay in legation city
>not segregation
>>1224503
Segregation started because most whites wanted to have as little as possible to do with blacks on general principal and the laws reflected that.
Looking at the current state of black America it's not like you can say they were wrong, either,
>>1225620
>Looking at the current state of black America it's not like you can say they were wrong, either,
That's sort of a chicken and the egg kind of question f@m.
>>1225664
Only if you consider white flight as part of "muh oppression" and not just people not wanting to live with blacks because of their reputation (founded or otherwise) for violence, criminal behavior, destroying home values and being poor neighbors.
In many places blacks had a golden opportunity to improve themselves as a people but squandered it miserably. It doesn't take money or influence to build a successful ethnic enclave and nobody expected blacks to do more than '"okay" but they not only didn't do so but crashed and burned. Even the poorest, least-educated, meth-addled backwaters of Appalachia are better places to live than your average poor black neighborhood. You could even make the claim that desegregation did irreprable harm to black communities by essentially dissolving them overnight. Blacks used to have to stop at black stores, go to black theaters, and generally limit their economic and social activity to black businesses and locations - and that meant that black social and economic infrastructure HAD to exist, or black communities wouldn't have access to those things. But de-segregation changed that and all of that black social infrastructure disappeared. Even in the face of ACTUAL institutionalized racism, many communities thrived by keeping to their own.
>inb4 Greenwood
>>1225741
Why can't we bring up one of the wealthiest and unified black communities in America literally being bombed by jealous White Americans?
>>1225836
Can you explain? I've never heard anything about this as a European.
>>1224503
Because black people were the slave race in Burgerstan. The African slaves weren't just a lower caste relegated to menial work like in other slave states, they were bred and raised for slave labor in successive generations. So after the Civil War ended, no one wanted to integrate them into society because they barely counted as people.
We're still reaping the rewards of that magnificent decision today, as the black community largely remains ghettoized and has now festered into becoming by far and away the primary driver of high crime and violence levels.
slavery was a mistake
>>1225896
Black Wallstreet. It's a meme that was actually doing a lot of illicit shit and was bombed by some KKK members back in the 20's. People who are uneducated blame that as the reason for the disefranchisment of the black middle class, when the black middle class couldn't give less of a shit about poor black people.
>>1225896
It was a oil wealthy black neighborhood in Tulsa that was destroyed by White citizens not just KKK. it was bombed Women and children killed.
Black neighborhoods traditionally held the speakeasys White people would go to, that was the worse illegal thing done in the neighborhood -serve alcohol-
Have a look at this manuscript. White Americans don't like talking about it because it shows their savagery and the lengths with which self sufficient black communities were scorned.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/long-lost-manuscript-contains-searing-eyewitness-account-tulsa-race-massacre-1921-180959251/
>>1225957
>the black middle class couldn't give less of a shit about poor black people.
So you're just going to pretend Dubois and the belief of the talented tenth didn't exist or the black elite were at the helm of every black rights struggle.
>>1225836
For one thing, because it happened once and then it was rebuilt and was going strong until desegregation. Yes, it was an unfortunate event and yes, it played into the "whitey keepin' the black man down" narrative but events like that were not common and to point at it like it's the norm is disingenuous.
>>1226020
So are you going to ignore the dozen or so white led race riots that completely destroyed black neighborhoods and businesses?
>>1226002
The Black elite supported black rights because it benefited themselves, not out of any solidarity towards poor blacks. The few exceptions are middle class preachers like MLK.
>>1226070
>The Black elite supported black rights because it benefited themselves, not out of any solidarity towards poor blacks.
How do you know?
>>1226028
Are you going to ignore all the black riots that have destroyed local black businesses in the area? I'm even breaking the 25-year rule here, I'm talking about Ferguson.
Blacks don't care about how local businesses are doing. They, in fact, thrive in environments where local businesses can't get off the ground. The American government has made them utterly dependent on the welfare state.
>>1226074
Read Richard Wrights books, he goes into detail how the rich blacks inherited a lot of the same mannerism towards their poorer black "brothers" from whites. Basically patronizing them while also benefiting personally from it. And this is reflected beautifully in people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, who make their living off of fueling the racial fire that doesn't actually address the real issues facing the black poor.
>>1226104
Yeah liberals have basically enable a black sinecure caste that really does not contribute to the black community in a way that does not include their self-interest.
>>1225741
>least-educated, meth-addled backwaters of Appalachia
I've been to those places and my father was from said area and it's utter hell. Desperation and hopelessness you can taste in the air.
He did that thing where he took us to his old home and said this is where I grew up like in that Mad Men season finale.
>>1226126
Funny this is the guy that came up with the shitty idea of the "Atlanta Compromise" which is social cuckoldry in negotiation form
>>1226126
Booker T Washington was paid to make blacks a servile class in the post civil war South and who found Dubois and others wanting blacks to want more reprehensible because it effected his funding.
>>1224514
> what are distinctions between nobility and peasantry
> distinction between ruling class oligarchy and poor goy
Sure dude, black lices matter
>>1226028
No, but I also am not going to ignore that black-on-white crime is staggeringly more prevalent than the reverse - including 90% of interracial murders being black-on-white and black-on-white rapes numbering approximately 20,000 annually while white-on-black rapes are so few that they don't even surpass the statistical margin of error. Pointing at white-on-black race riots in a racial violence discussion while ignoring "everyday" violence going the opposite direction is disingenuous. Are you going to ignore what I said about black social infrastructure and desegregation? Physical adversity is a different animal than an abstract threat and in many ways less dangerous.
>>1226199
And yet still preferable to a ghetto.
>>1226341
That's not segregation though at all.
>>1226445
Ehh a different type of cancer and anyone who says living in a Appalachian rural meth town is not equally as bad as ghetto is delusional.
Those areas were the focus of the tabloid and new back then before they switched to Black ghettos because the latter got more revenue.
>>1226436
How many of those white people noted as "white" are actually mestizo? Most of the black on white crime in LA for example is between Black and Mexican gangs in Compton.
It's completely stripping the dynamics of context and ignores the economic marginalization that 1. Has gangs develop and 2. Has Latino "white" and black folks fighting for limited illicit business opprotunity in a career devoid Area.
>>1224503
White people were afraid of race mixing. They thought that if intermingling occured between the races, some of them are bound to fall in love with one another, causing miscegenation. This fear of race mixing is what justified segregation amongst most whites
>>1226707
yeah anyone can call themselves white these days in stats and how the identify themselves.
You can technically haves bunch of Dominicans living in one town as 90% of the population and have the crime rate by race be a cluster fuck because of how identify. Some would say others White or Black, others mixed not to mention the big modifier of Hispanic identification.
Hell anyone can ID themselves as a different race if they have some admixture and throw off the stats!
>>1224532
Awww, someone's jealous of the BBC :)
Don't worry, when I'm giving laying the pipe on your mum I'll remind her to tell you to source your shit.
>>1224532
>The ruling class of white plantation owners were nursed by black mammies/slave wetnurses and imprinted on them in their formative period.
It sounds like you are buying into myths of your own, dude. That situation wasn't typical for the vast majority of white families that owned slaves in the South.
