Hello, annons. Its the year of 1939, you are the Führer of Germany, your mission: Win an upcoming world war, what you do?
>>1221784
Do not be at war with Britain, America and Russia all at once.
>>1221784
Don't invade Poland, keep my current gains, and be remembered as one of the greatest rulers Germany ever had.
>>1221784
Tell Poland to cede the land between East Prussia and Germany
>>1221784
actually bomb British industry and don't waste my time fucking around in London
Kill myself
Do meth and hit up those Berlin brothels.
>>1221784
nice map
I don't understand why we have this thread every day.
>>1221784
Don't fight against the ruskies.
>>1221784
Drop the anti-Slavic racisms and instead try to get allies against the USSR, including Poles and Ukrainians.
Maybe double-cross the Russians when Poland is invaded and instead support the Poles against the communists? Guarantee the existence of an independent Poland and make it a not-communism vs. communism war, rather than an everyone vs. Germany war.
Don't declare war on the US when the nips bomb them.
Don't support Nationalists China against your own allies like an idiot, but that was from before 1939.
>>1221784
Honor the Treaty of Munich to allay the fears of the Allies, then sneak attack Poland while it has no guarantees of protection
![strike_witches02[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/PmbI8lC.jpg "strike_witches02[1].png")
Two words, Strike Witches
>>1221802
Most British industry is up in and around the Midlands. You can reach it with your bombers, but your escorting fighters can't make it there and back. It would be enormously bloody to try to fight your way through them.
>>1221792
Best answer. The 1940's and 50's could have been a glorious golden age for Germany, if Hitler hadn't shat the bed.
>>1221975
Racial bullshit man, racial bullshit, and Lebensraun shit...
>>1221784
Try to avoid war, while building up my navy,airforce, and army, stocking supplies, and figuring out how to knock Poland, britian, France, and eventually, Russia.
Start the war in 1942. Work with Russia to crush Poland, while releasing U-boats against britian. Once Poland is secured, use Manstein to crush France. Destroy Dunkirk. Chase britian out of Africa, use a large U boat fleet to annihilate and starve britian into a forced peace. Rebuild, wait and plan for Russia to attack.
>>1221784
1. not attack all my neighbours
2. dismantle germany and restore the independent laender, germany is a menace to europe and the world.
Immediately remove Italy from the Axis powers
>>1221792
>tfw no Danzig
the only way to win is not to even start
or, wait until the soviets invade poland and rush to their (poles) aid
the key to victory is the moral high ground
>>1221784
>invade France and Poland
>try to piece out with British to the best of ability
>try to improve relations with the Soviets
>>1221784
Collaborate with Mussolini to create a new, diarchic HRE.
Shitpost Voltairefags for the rest of my reign.
Steamroll British and French armies at Dunkirk with tanks instead of letting them get away while waiting for air force like an autist
>>1221784
Rename the country to "The Holy Roman Empire" and take over Europe while everyone is too busy laughing to defend themselves.
>>1222483
1939:
Ally with Yugoslavia or keep it neutral, maybe be means of a coup.
Promise Albania, Greece, Egypt and Sudan to Italy if they can capture Suez first, and offer German support in doing this.
Invade Poland as usual.
1940:
Spring: Flatten France as usual.
Agree to give Spain huge tracts of Atlantic Africa in exchange for alliance.
Coordinate the fall of Gibraltar with the fall of Suez.
Sign agreement of neutrality with Portugal.
Remain neutral to Turkey, but ally with Persia. Offer them land in Iraq in exchange for support in the Middle East and Caucasus.
Remain defensive with the UK. Sink their boats and destroy their aircraft.
Summer 1940: Invade the USSR.
Autumn 1940: Ally with Finland.
Capture Leningrad, Moscow and Baku. Stockpile oil.
Winter 1940: Suffer. Lose ground, retake ground.
Defeat a British landing in Morocco.
Summer 1941: Solidify captured land Negotiate the capitulation of Russia. Creation of neutral Uralo-Siberian Republic.
Negotiate peace with UK.
Roll eyes and finally let Italy romp like a retard in Greece.
Consider invading Turkey to control access to the Black Sea and the new German Caucasus.
>>1222788
>Promise Albania, Greece, Egypt and Sudan to Italy if they can capture Suez first, and offer German support in doing this.
The axis had little to no chance of capturing the Suez considering the entire Arabian peninsula is under British control along with Egypt and Turkey wanted to remain neutral due to fears of invasion from the USSR and the UK.
>Agree to give Spain huge tracts of Atlantic Africa in exchange for alliance.
Franco wasn't ready for war and had little reason to ally. Mauretania was desert and would have likely been a money sink.
>Coordinate the fall of Gibraltar with the fall of Suez.
The Axis had pretty much no chance of taking the Suez.
>Sign agreement of neutrality with Portugal.
Portugal wouldn't be neutral if Spain joined the Axis. Portugal would just follow the call to arms of the UK, its oldest ally.
>Sink their boats
with what?
>Capture Leningrad, Moscow and Baku. Stockpile oil.
Germany didn't have the logistics to capture all three targets. Germany didn't even have the logistics to take Moscow.
>>1222788
>Negotiate the capitulation of Russia.
Stalin wouldn't surrender unless massive indemnities are paid or lands returned. Stalin had the upper hand as soon as German troops stalled and was driven back from Moscow.
>Negotiate peace with UK.
UK wouldn't surrender unless France was restored. The strategic goal of the UK throughout its history was the prevention of a massive power in Continental Europe.
>>1222788
>Promise Albania, Greece, Egypt and Sudan to Italy if they can capture Suez first,
In 1939 Italy already has Albania, and if they can reach the Suez they already can control Egypt and Sudan, and there's nothing stopping them from taking Greece, which at this point they do not want.
These threads are not history
>>1221784
kill everyone whose children would potentially go on to make these shitty fucking threads
Why the hell is Slovakia marked as part of Germany on that map?
Captcha: Lard 800m
>>1222087
It's not bullshit if you can pull it off.
>>1221784
Don't invade Russia, but if you have too, don't let Italy invade the Balkans (and fail miserably) because if you do let them do that, you'll have to delay your invasion of Russia by 6 weeks, and then when your only 80 miles from Moscow BOOM, winter hits. So yeah, tell Mussolini to fuck off at all costs, also just let the army do the whole "strategy" thing.
>>1222861
Germany annexed all of Czechoslovakia in March...
>>1222819
>The axis had little to no chance of capturing the Suez considering the entire Arabian peninsula is under British control along with Egypt and Turkey wanted to remain neutral due to fears of invasion from the USSR and the UK.
The capture of Egypt was implied. It would be ugly to hold on to it, but it could be done.
>Franco wasn't ready for war and had little reason to ally. Mauretania was desert and would have likely been a money sink.
I meant the fertile areas further down, too.
>The Axis had pretty much no chance of taking the Suez.
Surely it wouldn't have been as difficult as capturing Yugoslavia and Greece?
>Portugal wouldn't be neutral if Spain joined the Axis. Portugal would just follow the call to arms of the UK, its oldest ally.
Fantasy. They would have nothing to gain and plenty to lose. Franco would be eager to shave off border areas, if not annex the entire country.
>with what?
With muskets.
Or the submarines that they used historically, I don't know, call me crazy.
>Germany didn't have the logistics to capture all three targets. Germany didn't even have the logistics to take Moscow.
They were at the gates of Leningrad and Moscow. I think they could manage getting to the city centres, at least.
Baku I concede might have taken another year.
>Stalin wouldn't surrender unless massive indemnities are paid or lands returned.
The trick with people who won't surrender is to beat them.
>UK wouldn't surrender unless France was restored. The strategic goal of the UK throughout its history was the prevention of a massive power in Continental Europe.
Not everyone is as autistic as you image Portugal to be. The UK would accept a truce if they had no other choice.
>>1222830
The capture of Egypt was implied.
>>1222894
>I think they could manage getting to the city centres, at least.
stalingrad sure showed how easy it is getting to a city center
now imagine a city five times as big and countless times as important, like moscow
>>1222893
umm, yes you fucking retard
Czech and German soldiers invaded Poland in September after Germany annexed and occupied Czechoslovakia which happened after the League of Nations gave the Sudetenland away to them. Retard.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Czechoslovakia
>>1222947
>Being this retarded.
Many lels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovak_Republic_%281939%E2%80%9345%29
>>1222894
>Surely it wouldn't have been as difficult as capturing Yugoslavia and Greece
It would have been 10x more difficult you moron.
>Submarines
submarines were attrition warfare trash, they couldnt be counted on to sink any more ships than they did historically.
>The trick with people who won't surrender is to beat them
If Russia never surrendered Germany never would have beaten them. Germany simply didn't have the logistics to take Baku, Moscow, Stalindgrad, Leningrad AND russian backwaters filled with troops. In a 1v1 MAYBE, but even then it would have to be before the winter of 41-42
>>1221784
>Win an upcoming world war, what you do?
Since the assumption seems to be that the war must happen (i.e. 'upcoming world war'), there is nothing I can do.
The only 'winning' move is not to play. Right before the invasion of Poland.
Then again the entire eastwards push is the very basis of my ideology so who knows how that will turn out.
>>1222947
>Czech and German soldiers invaded Poland
> Czech soldiers
U said wat m8?!?
>>1222971
>Implying maps represent actual political situation.
Just because they were satellite states doesn't mean they were part of Germany.
>>1221849
for His second coming
>>1222921
Dude gold reserves aren't even important lmao
Like, its 1940, who needs backing for their currency. imports and exports are just globalist jew lies anyway and germany is 100% self sufficient.
>>1221792
Then you would abandon the ethnic Germans there who were undergoing a massacre , by Polish bigots, months before Hitler moved in to save Prussian Germans.
Furhur would be impeaced as a result.
>>1223033
P.S. please send more grain Uncle Joe.
>>1222884
(You)
>>1222971
Vichy France was conquered by German military and coerced into accepting nazi rule, Slovaks actually wanted to be nazi from the get go.
>>1221915
t. Slav
>>1222788
assassination of Churchill and Stalin would be essential
>>1222884
just Sudetenland my dear fellow. Slovakia betrayed the Czechs and went independent
>>1222947
you really want me to get fucking angry
>>1221784
>this thread again
Honestly, these threads should be a bannable offense, they're basically shitposting.
>>1223060
Let's also not forget that it was the Poles and not the Germans who started the war with their attack on the Sender Gleiwitz radio station.
Take over poland at the same time with czechoslovakia
WWII never happens
Take the Russian plains and then set up a defence line based on 88mm cannons. Fortify the Don river system and conscript Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Russians. Drop the anti-Slavic sentiment and establish Ukrainian and Belarusian puppet states under German control. Establish a Russian puppet state based around European Russia and allow the Russians to push beyond the Don if they are able. Encourage the Russians to defeat the Soviet remnants for you, essentially. To the Russians, it would be a war of liberation, of reconquest.
>>1223568
0/10
>>1221784
Right before killing myself, write and sign orders to kill everyone in the cabinet, and dismiss every officer in the military.
>>1222819
This
>>1222894
Portugal was ruled by pro-British God-yet professor-dictator Antonio de Oliveira Salazar, he would never have sided with Axis against Britain, you would have to invade Portugal.
Also forgetting the fact that Salazar had huge influence over Franco, the two were good friends, Salazar wanted Franco to stay neutral.
>>1222894
Franco had no interest in going to war, his country was fucked from the Civil War and still recovering
>>1221784
Assuming I had 30 minutes prep time before being sent back I'd memorize a list of natural events happening during 1939/40 while telling everyone I'm actually from 2016 and that I've been sent back into the body of a man who caused WW2 to prevent it.
Try to not fight a world war, the German economics were garbage and their logistics during the war were infinitely worse. Although, if I were to initiate a war, listen to the fucking logisticians.
Ally with the Allies.
What's the point of this? People answer with hindsight. A more serious discussion would be if we asked what you would do with only the knowledge that was at hand in 1939. But even in that case it's cheating.
>>1224331
Not even. Because there's pretty much no permutation, even with perfect future knowledge, that can make WW2 in the sense that we know it winnable.
About the only 'win' condition possible is to somehow turn it into a more limited war with more negotiation, where your lack of resources isn't as crippling, but by 1939, you've probably already got too many broken treaties to make that possible.
>>1224338
>permutation
I gotta remember that. I know these topics are harmless fun but I always feel the need to call people out for the fallacies that are common to it.
Remove the biggest cancer of europe
germani
>>1222947
>Czech soldiers invaded Poland
America.
Wait until 1943 and then go at full pelt
>>1224497
And then, some seventy years later, they blew up the Freedom & Liberty Marathon 4 JUSTICE in Boston
Unrestricted submarine warfare and listen to what my generals say.
>>1223618
Everyone ignored you because it makes sense
>>1222788
>Capture Leningrad, Moscow and Baku. Stockpile oil.
These people I swear. What makes you think they weren't stockpiling oil?
>>1221784
Nuke moscow
>>1224750
German generals did nothing wrong it was all Hitler's fault.
t. German general
>send drill sargents to train the italians
>equip them with non shit weapons
>support the british union of facists
>tell japan not to attack america until britain and the ussr are out of the picture
>>1224761
>To be completely fair, Slovakians DID invade Poland alongside Germany.
yes I think that was the point
Slovaks
not Czechs
inb4
>Slovaks
>not Czechs
>>1224975
>German generals did nothing wrong it was all Hitler's fault.
>t. German general
"German WW2 commanders memoirs in a nutshell"
>>1221784
Become communist
Ally with the USSR.
Absolutely gangbang Eurasia with glorious proletarian revolution.
>>1223421
Stop being a boring dumbass for god sake
>>1225057
Shit this could actually work.
>>1223030
true
>>1223141
impossible to do so
>>1224718
what is your malfunction that you can't see the difference between czech and chechnya?
What is the end game here?
Can't you just conquer Poland and stop there?
Man, I would be satisfy with Alsase and Lorraine, Posen and West Prussia back...
>>1223568
Kind of skipping ahead, and in my scenario both France and Britain have been conquered/subdued and are out of the war and now I'm focusing on Russia. How feasible was a Japanese attack on Russia's Pacific coasts/islands? Say even something fairly limited i.e. an attack on Vladivostok and North Sakhalin? Because if I had been the Germans I would've worked more closely with Japan in some way shape or form, especially when dealing with the raw size and numerical force of Russia, and forcing Russia to fight on two fronts, having to pull military forces and resources all the way across Siberia to fight Japan as WELL as Germany sounds like a good idea to divide and conquer just as an outside observation.
>>1226320
>Kind of skipping ahead, and in my scenario both France and Britain have been conquered/subdued and are out of the war and now I'm focusing on Russia
Yes, that is a very large step to skip ahead.
>ow feasible was a Japanese attack on Russia's Pacific coasts/islands?
As long as you don't go too far, pretty feasible, as long as Japan is willing to commit the kind of force necessary (probably need about 750,000 or so troops to go after Vladivostok). Near the coast, their resupply and their ability to project force is still very strong.
Going further inland is going to be nearly impossible though, because there's not much of real worth to the Soviets this side of Irkutsk, and it's a long way to travel up the TSR, which the Soviets would probably destroy behind them as they retreated even if you managed to make headway. You wouldn't force any sort of major commitment of the Russians.
The biggest impoact of a Japanese attack on the Russians would be closing the port of Vladivostok to Lend Lease (see pic related) But I'm not sure how much of that volume could be redirected elsewhere, most likely through the Persian corridor.
>>1226350
I definitely acknowledge France/Britain's defeat/exit as a big jump ahead. Alternatively Britain might not necessarily be totally defeated, but Germany manages to secure air superiority in the Battle of Britain and also succeed in U-Boat tactics severely crippling Britain's trading and seafaring abilities and render them powerless to mass any sort of effective offensive action against the Germans be it land, sea, or air. A very optimistic/positive result, I admit, but still.
I imagine Japan would have to pull some resources and manpower mainly from the Chinese front in order to amass a significant assault on Vladivostok and Sakhalin. I'd also coordinate both Operation Barbarossa and Japan's Western attacks so as to make the initial breakthroughs and effect of knocking the Russians off balance as damaging as possible.
The timeline of such a two-front offensive of Russia depends on how long Britain could remain a potential offensive threat after France's fall. In the Pacific, war with America was at least in Japan's eyes inevitable, and they realized a direct, prolonged war with America was unwinnable, ergo you get Pearl Harbor and the invasion of oil-rich Southeast Asia and the Philippines in hopes of crippling America's naval ability and will to fight, etc., I think the biggest part of this for Germany regardless of how America reacts to Japan's Russian offensive (I assume Japan would still move to take territories with oil supplies since they were starved of their American oil supply to begin with, as well) is fairly clear: Don't declare war on America under any circumstance, even if it means leaving Japan out in the cold against America (which Germany never really could help out Japan to begin with in the Pacific theater). That way Germany can benefit from whatever complications and depletion of Russia's manpower and resources/ability to supply without Vladivostok
>>1226475
I'm liking this guy
>>1226475
One thing I forgot to add was I think I would hold off Barbarossa for a period of time, again depending on when Germany can subdue Britain effectively. Say Germany is able to do so by the end of 1940, I would spend 1941 amassing myself in preparation of Barbarossa, and without Britain's air force bombing any German manufacturing centers production can go full steam ahead, throwing all possible resources in order to build the strongest force possible. However, Japan wanted to knock out America and secure its oil and it wanted to do it quickly. Pretty much I would hold off the two-front invasion of Russia until Spring of 1942, starting as early in the Spring as possible. With that year of force stockpiling, coupled with Russia being forced to split their attention at least partially, the end goal of taking over Moscow, Leningrad, obliterating Russia's government, etc., remains the same, albeit I would focus much more on taking the oil in and near the Caucasus region rather than becoming (fatally) obsessed with taking Stalingrad. Once the invasion is in full swing and those targets have been overtaken Japan can feel free to do as they please in the Pacific, but whatever consequences from America is theirs and theirs alone to deal with because Germany'll have sweet, sweet Lebensraum and domination over Russia and all of Europe.
>>1226475
> but Germany manages to secure air superiority in the Battle of Britain
That alone is going to be very tough, and if you're not planning an invasion, it's of dubious value.
> also succeed in U-Boat tactics severely crippling Britain's trading and seafaring abilities and render them powerless to mass any sort of effective offensive action against the Germans be it land, sea, or air.
And this just isn't happening. The u-boats, upon later review, were nowhere near effective enough to cripple the UK, and what's worse, the geography of the atlantic is against you in long term advantages. The British have the bases to supply airpower to protect those convoys, you don't have similar bases to project force anywhere except off the coast of France.
>I'd also coordinate both Operation Barbarossa and Japan's Western attacks so as to make the initial breakthroughs and effect of knocking the Russians off balance as damaging as possible.
That, paradoxically, is less likely to succeed. Contrary to what popular myth tells you, the biggest transfers out of the Far East command were done in the 2 months after Barbarossa started. You probably want to have the Japanese attack a month or so after the German one if you want to choke off the port, stirke when as many Russian troops are in transit over central Asia as possible.
>>1226737
>>1226737
> Say Germany is able to do so by the end of 1940, I would spend 1941 amassing myself in preparation of Barbarossa, and without Britain's air force bombing any German manufacturing
Again, ridiculously optimistic, but I would also recommend Max Hastings work, Bomber Command. British air raids weren't really that effective at much more than tying up Luftwaffe resources until 1943 or so. The bigger problem with waiting is that the Soviets are building up more forces, faster than you are,
>I would hold off the two-front invasion of Russia until Spring of 1942, starting as early in the Spring as possible.
Bad idea. Attacking in Eastern Europe in the early spring means you get all the fun of trying to push through about 6 feet of mud. Wait until May at the earliest.
>With that year of force stockpiling, coupled with Russia being forced to split their attention at least partially,
I really think you're overestimating how much this will split the Soviet attention. Historically, their commitment of Europe vs Asia was about 11:1. If you have the Japanese start overrunning the areas around Manchuria, it paradoxically decreases, as the Soviets will start doing scorched earth over the link of the TSR and that gives them a much smaller front to defend. The real impact of a Japanese entry into that war is how it affects Lend-Lease.
>>1226737
>>1224761
Yeah Slovaks did, not Czechs. They are different nations you know.
