Don't you think it's time for humanity to start gathering all the countries together ? Take off the masks, abolish the monetary system which only developp selfishness, competitivity, greed and so on ?
I know the system is strong but we build it, can we not change it ? We need to focus on fairness and actual planet resources in order to move forward, and not backward.
A thread died for this
>DUDE LIKE WHAT IF WE ALL JUST GOT TOGETHER AND LIKE STOPPED ALL WARS DUDE
It's barely even started and I already want summer to end.
>humanity to start gathering all the countries together ?
The world is already more interconnected than any point in history.
>Take off the masks
What 'masks'? You mean like the world's unique national & cultural identities that are each provide complex & irreplaceable insight into the human condition?
>abolish the monetary system which only developp selfishness, competitivity, greed and so on ?
You mean the monetary system that was instrumental in lifting the wealth & living standards of the entire world? The same systems that have been steadily dropping poverty at an astounding rate?
>We need to focus on fairness and actual planet resources
We do. It's called a market.
>in order to move forward, and not backward.
Explain to me exactly in what ways we are moving backwards.
>>1219362
>Don't you think it's time for humanity to start gathering all the countries together ?
Fuck no. We are tribal animals in general, and a we can't stand each other in many places in particular. Imagine Israel merging with the surrounding arab countries, or China and the rest of Asia. Give us some aliens to make "the other" or something and maybe them.
>abolish the monetary system which only developp selfishness, competitivity, greed and so on
Fun-fact. Abolishing money means squat. If you were smart, you should have said you want to abolish division and specialisation of labour.
>I know the system is strong but we build it, can we not change it ?
Yeah, we can patch it so we have some redistribution of wealth and prevent abuses, but abolishing it is just gonna turn into a clusterfuck and worse that before.
> We need to focus on fairness and actual planet resources
Despite sounding cute, common resources are a vague term, since raw materials vary in quality(shitty coal or minerals), availability, or if they should be extracted in the first place(think fuel under a forest, Avatar style)
>>1219388
>>1219388
>>1219388
>>humanity to start gathering all the countries together ?
>The world is already more interconnected than any point in history.
By connected you mean being isolated ? We never had this less power.
>>Take off the masks
>What 'masks'? You mean like the world's unique national & cultural identities that are each provide complex & irreplaceable insight into the human condition?
I mean the masks that we pretend to assume. The only goal to life would be to buy things, work and shit a children ?
>>abolish the monetary system which only developp selfishness, competitivity, greed and so on ?
>You mean the monetary system that was instrumental in lifting the wealth & living standards of the entire world? The same systems that have been steadily dropping poverty at an astounding rate?
That would have been correct 200 years ago. Not now.
>>We need to focus on fairness and actual planet resources
>We do. It's called a market.
We don't mais, we produce more than we discover.
>>in order to move forward, and not backward.
>Explain to me exactly in what ways we are moving backwards.
Technology développement is fractionate as it could be a straight line. Try to look for planned obsolescence
>>1219388
>>1219362
If humanity took off masks then pretty much every country would genocidal war about old grudges and not stop until remaining nations wouldn't have problems with each other
>>1219409
>We never had this less power.
lmao
>>1219409
>By connected you mean being isolated ? We never had this less power.
Who is 'we'?
At least in a democratic republic the leaders deign to consult the electorate on certain issues, and the people can technically exercise the power to oust leaders they aren't satisfied with. That alone puts modern man above 99.9% of the civil involvement of your average person throughout history.
>>1219362
No
It's time for ultra-balkanisation.
>>1219397
>Don't you think it's time for humanity to start gathering all the countries together ?
Fuck no. We are tribal animals in general, and a we can't stand each other in many places in particular. Imagine Israel merging with the surrounding arab countries, or China and the rest of Asia. Give us some aliens to make "the other" or something and maybe them.
I am not talking about those last generations, they are already lost. The future is belonging to new ones.
>abolish the monetary system which only developp selfishness, competitivity, greed and so on
Fun-fact. Abolishing money means squat. If you were smart, you should have said you want to abolish division and specialisation of labour.
"If you were smart" . No I am talking about what is the monetary system in his whole.
>I know the system is strong but we build it, can we not change it ?
Yeah, we can patch it so we have some redistribution of wealth and prevent abuses, but abolishing it is just gonna turn into a clusterfuck and worse that before.
It's true that abolish would rhyme with war, disease and death. We need to start a transition. A shiton of laws that have been made 100 years ago are no more relevants.It would be nice ot try to be on the same page everywhere.
> We need to focus on fairness and actual planet resources
Despite sounding cute, common resources are a vague term, since raw materials vary in quality(shitty coal or minerals), availability, or if they should be extracted in the first place(think fuel under a forest, Avatar style)
We have today the technology to monitor the actual planetary resources. You'de be surprised how much "rare" materials are actually not. The way of proposing offer create the demand.
>>1219440
this desu
the internet has only contributed towards the tribalizaztion of mankind
t. just played MGS2
>>1219421
The scale is ridiculous. The one with the money is the one with power. That's our world, and leader are not trying to change things, they just adapt with their many councilers in order to maintain the status Quo. They just serve their account and own families, not the people. Even if they think they are.
>>1219443
Jesus, what a load of bollocks. You can't even speak English properly, let alone form a coherent argument for your position.
>Abolish competitivity
>It is not enough that i should succeed - others should fail
>>1219397
Sorry
>>1219443
>The future is belonging to new ones.
The new ones aren't gonna be happy when they find out the guy next door family's genocided and raped his.
>No I am talking about what is the monetary system in his whole.
Capitalism simply is trading, and money are simply tokens with the backing of an infrastructure.
>A shiton of laws that have been made 100 years ago are no more relevants.It would be nice ot try to be on the same page everywhere.
We are doing that already.
>We have today the technology to monitor the actual planetary resources.
Ok, genius.
Tell me this.
If i found a massive deposit of pig iron or other low quality stuff, does it mean i have a resource or not?
If i find oil under the Amazon forest, and i'd rather not exploit it, does it mean i have a resource or not?
If i find a limited quality that i'd like to stretch into the future, does it mean i have a resource or not?
>You'de be surprised how much "rare" materials are actually not.
Yeah, DeBeers and shit.
>>1219486
>>The future is belonging to new ones.
>The new ones aren't gonna be happy when they find out the guy next door family's genocided and raped his.
Meaning ?
>>No I am talking about what is the monetary system in his whole.
>Capitalism simply is trading, and money are simply tokens with the backing of an infrastructure.
Let's just say we shoudl take back the power from banks.
>>A shiton of laws that have been made 100 years ago are no more relevants.It would be nice ot try to be on the same page everywhere.
>We are doing that already.
The boarders should fall, languages merge and culturs becoming one.
>>We have today the technology to monitor the actual planetary resources.
>Ok, genius.
>Tell me this.
>If i found a massive deposit of pig iron or other low quality stuff, does it mean i have a resource or not?
It means you have potentially the resource yes.
>If i find oil under the Amazon forest, and i'd rather not exploit it, does it mean i have a resource or not?
Are you stupid ?
>If i find a limited quality that i'd like to stretch into the future, does it mean i have a resource or not?
It means you potentially have the resource.
>>You'de be surprised how much "rare" materials are actually not.
>Yeah, DeBeers and shit.
>>1219514
>Meaning ?
They are gonna rediscover their bad blood wen they study history.
>Let's just say we shoudl take back the power from banks.
Good. We can try.
>The boarders should fall, languages merge and culturs becoming one.
Why? That is neither helpful, nor desirable.
Besides, language and cultural drift happen, so in a couple of generations, you are back to square one.
>It means you have potentially the resource yes.
You can't inventory potentiality with technology.
>Are you stupid ?
No, it's a legit question.
What happens if you find a resource, but exploiting it would bring a ton of harm? Does it still count as having it, even if it's unusable?
>>1219440
secession and exit politics is the correct way
anyway, this thread is really bad, and you people should all feel bad
