What was the point of the vietnam war if vietnam became capitalist anyways?
>>1312814
>Country was divided.
>LEL WHUT WAS D POINT OF WAR GUYS
Vietnamese make Koreans look like cucks.
ALso
>Capitalism = Obeying America/The West
to prevent the domino effect, communism would have swept across south east asia and the region would have ended up a totalitarian nightmare like north korea to this day
American policy makers in the 60s didn't really understand that communism wasn't a monolithic force.
In the 5 year period before the Tonkin Gulf Resolution, you'd had the Gary Powers shootdown, the Berlin Wall, Laos had stopped fighting the commies, the Bay of Pigs had happened, the Cuban Missile Crisis, and LBJ was pretty sure the communists had killed his old boss.
LBJ saw these events as something similar to the creeping expansion of German power in Europe up to WW2. He had cut his teeth working for the Roosevelt administration in the 30s, and he figured that the communists desperately needed to be confronted.
>>1312814
hindsight is 20/20
the point was to contain communism and prevent the domino effect (hey, if it works here why don't we try it?...") and more importantly to preserve american hegemony
that failed, although many vietnamese were killed
in the period it wasn't a foregone conclusion that at communist regimes would collapse under their own weight and yield to market economies, so any attempts that also conflicted with western influences were nipped in the bud
counterpoint: african and latam banana republics where socialist strongmen were propped up irritated deliberately by western influences, knowing they would be willing puppets of an economic mess
>>1312830
>Despite the infamous history of the Vietnam War, Vietnam today is one of the most pro-American countries in Southeast Asia,[1][2][3] with 78% of Vietnamese people viewing the U.S. favorably in 2015.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93Vietnam_relations
>>1312814
Check the USSR and Red Chinese aggression. Show them we would fight in their territory. Killing 3,500,000 gooks was just a bonus.
>>1312843
This is totally not because of their huge neighbor to the North and the current issues between the two countries.
Just like back when the Mongols, they were suddenly chummy with the Chinese. Same thing with the French Invasion. When France held Vietnam, they welcomed the Japs, only to regret it later.
Also, and yet again
>Implying being capitalist = subservience to America/West.
>>1312854
>Mongols
>not the rulers of China at the point where Mongols were trying to push into nam
What
>>1312836
But Laos and Cambodia were commies.
>>1312855
>Mongols took over China in one go.
The Song Dynasty and the Ly Dynasty used to be bitter enemies but they were budds versus the Mongs.
>>1312860
The US didn't care about Laos and Cambodia in and of themselves.
They were afraid of countries like Burma, Indonesia, Thailand, and even India turning communist.
>>1312869
>Ly Dynasty
Tran* Dynasty
>>1312814
Containment policy, the North invaded the South cause they had Chicom and Soviet military aid.
>>1312814
To the North Vietnamese, it was a nationalist war first and a communist war second.
They fought to free the region from foreign occupies and unite the Vietnamese under a single banner, and they used Communism as a tool to achieve that end.
The point of the war was who was going to have influence over Vietnam, France and the US, or Vietnam?
but that's why the North fought, the US fought under the domino effect under the fear that if one country falls, they all fall, this was proven bunk later but was a legitimate fear at the time. Also France wanted to keep influence over its old colony and the US wanted in on SouthEast Asian markets, markets that will be closed off to America if under a communist regime.
the socialist market reforms later on just happened to be an event everyone could live with, US gets access to Vietnamese markets, and Vietnam keeps its independence from foreign militaries.
>>1312988
>this was proven bunk later
lol
containment worked
>>1312871
India becoming communist really would fuck with the world economy.
