Has there been anything worse than the holocaust? If so, what?
>>1211899
Bubonic plague?
>>1211899
As we know from the enlightenment, in particular Hume, there is no arguable moral basis. Therefore your question is meaningless tripe.
>>1211899
The Allied Victory in Europe
I think russians in ww2 had it just as bad as the jews. Their leadership thought of them as less than cattle
> If so, what?
Second World War for example. Holocaust was a small part of it, for comparison.
>>1212046
Stalin was a saint compared to Mao
>>1212058
I wonder what the percentages are though. Much bigger population in China than Russia, therefore higher chance of getting fucked by Stalin than Mao
>>1212058
The difference is that Mao killed them through sheer incompetence.
>>1212201
Is that any better though? I mean if you're so incompetent that you kill 3x more people than anyone else ever has, you kind of deserve to be vilified.
>>1212201
It arguable make him a better person, but hardly makes his regime better. If you are a victim then it doesn't matter if your death is a part of evil master plan or just result of retarded decision.
>>1212058
>Stalin was a saint
Stalin's influence is unarguably what makes him the worst. If it wasn't for him there would be no Mao, Pol Pot and the Kim dynasty.
>>1212250
How? It isn't like he personally installed all of that people or invented fucking dictatorship.
>>1211899
pretty much anything genghis khan or tamerlane did
>>1212021
>As we know from the enlightenment, in particular Hume, there is no arguable moral basis. Therefore your question is meaningless tripe.
hume was not a moral nihilist
>>1211899
If we're going by percentage of population, the Catholic slaughter of the Cathars from Pope Innocent III on was far, far worse, eliminating nearly 12% of the population of Europe.
Granted, that took a bit longer, and that's not counting the casualties caused by WWII as a whole.
>>1212286
he was the go-to model for pretentious edgy dictators in the 20th century
The earlier something happened, the more influential it was on subsequent events, and therefore the worse it was.
For example, the Holocaust was bad {{Citation needed}} but it couldn't have happened without the destabilization of Germany created by WW1.
WW1 couldn't happen without the Franco-Prussian War.
And so on.
>>1212338
So basically, it all comes down to the >H>R>E
>>1212026
Nazi fucktard.
Victory over nazi trash was a great event.
>>1212338
So worst thing was actually that shit that killed all but 70000 humans in early history? Imagine world, but with 100 times more genetic diversity than we got today.
>>1212363
>tfw Yellowstone will eventually explode
>>1212344
The ethnogenesis of the proto-gemanic peoples is honestly the most catastrophic thing to happen. All problems can be traced to germanic speaking peoples.
>>1212363
You've got it around the wrong way, I think the estimates are 1000-10,000 people survived, and it occurred 70,000 years ago.
>>1212363
What the fuck was that?
>>1212382
>tfw being under meter of an ash
>>1211899
Statistically or morally?
If you're thinking morally, that's up to you to decide.
Statistically, I have no fucking clue.
>>1212026
I know you're probably being ironic, but I just wanted to say that Nazi logic is the funniest shit
>lose thirty years war
>jews did it
>better become more united against those inferior jews
>lose ww1
>get cucked
>jews did it
>better become more centralized and nationalistic against those inferior jews
>lose ww2
>get cucked
>jews did it
>better continue claiming superiority despite have a three for nothing losing streak
Mongol invasions t o b e q u i t e h o n e s t f a m i l y
>>1212454
>Knoxville
>Not Nashville
I always knew we were the better city.
>>1212363
FUCK SUPERVOLCANOES
Never forgive.
Never forget.
>>1212021
>Philosophy faggot
>>1212510
>use the energy to cremate all of the Mormons
FTFY
>muh holoax
>>1212315
No, he wasn't. But the is/ought problem demonstrates that there is NO ARGUABLE BASIS for moral claims.
>>1212643
Mormons are better people than you, degenerate.
>>1211899
>If so, what?
The Great Leap Forward
>>1212485
top kek
Why is /his/ so liberal?
>>1214536
what gave you that impression? the neo-monarchist reactionaries, CSA sympathizers, or proselytizing Catholics?
>>1214597
"It's the colonisers fault, Africans dindu nofin"
>>1214620
I have never seen a single person say that here. You are talking bullshit.
>>1212058
I don't think you can compare the harm single persons did to mankind by listing an more or less estimated number of kills
>>1212042
This desu. The worst part for the Russians is that it didn't really get better until well after Stalin died. Soviets had it bad before, during, and after the war.
>>1214597
nah, but your reaction sure does justify it
>>1214620
Fantastic strawman, best I've seen in a while.
Have you considered that if you immediately reduce any argument that the Europeans might have fucked a few things up to that that you might be being a bit unreasonable?
>>1212338
This is ridiculous, you could go one till the dawn of man with this kind of logic.
>>1212485
Way to forget Bismarck
Rwandan genocide, mainly for the speed of which each side wanted to systematically wipe out the other and carried it out at such a level continuously
Combine that with the fact that it's in living memory and it's pretty brutal desu, holocaust in comparison was more drawn out but because there was a bigger figure that's all the is to now eh
>>1212058
I’d say the 15 million deaths in the Congo ascribed to King Leopold of Belgium is widely overblown for politically correct reasons.
Zaire today (as of 1996) has a population of 46+ million and we’re to supposed to believe the Belgians killed almost half that many people back in the day, yet somehow were still exporting all kinda resources out of the country?
>>1215431
>YWN use a nigger as a tree
>>1212021
fucking lold.
I get on /his/ and this is the first thing I see. I love you guys
>>1211899
Pol Pots' Killing fields, Mao's great leap forward, rape of nanking, I can continue to go on.
>>1212250
Famously Mao and Stalin did not like each other. Stalin tried to install people who supported him in the Chinese communist through the comintern, But through intrigue mao got rid of them all. Stalin only support Mao because he had no other choice.
>>1213991
Mormons are passive aggressive fucks though. Also they are closed minded and have way too many kids.
Your birth.
>>1211899
The colonization of the Americas. So many indigenous people died after European contact that the best estimate anyone can guess is "most of them". Of course, a lot of that was due to infectious diseases that weren't (in most cases) spread on purpose.
>>1215612
>Europeans are super horrible and killed millions, also on only a semi-related note most of the deaths were due to disease, BUT NOW LET ME IMPLY THAT SOMETIMES EUROPEANS SPREAD DISEASE ON PURPOSE SO THEY ARE THE DEVIL STILL
Fuck you. The death toll of Europeans due to brutality shouldn't even be uttered in the same sentence as death toll due to disease. You are obviously trying to play assign blame for the Great Dying on the brutality of Europeans, which is totally false. It's like trying to assign the blame of the death toll of a volcano eruption on the police because they shot someone in the chaos of looting.
>>1215589
Op l. Fekkin loooooolz
>>1211899
Mongol invasions
Rhodesia losing.
>>1212497
East Tennessee will always be best Tennessee.
>>1212058
Define "Killed". Surely Mao didn't go around indiscriminately slitting throats.
>>1216602
I agree with this. They fucking wiped out certain areas almost entirely. The people of Xi Xia and the Khwarezmians were decimated.
The discovery of fossil fuels. Not that we knew before that it would eventually fuck up our global climate but it's definitely going to cause the most harm to people in the future if it continues.
>>1215431
15 is not almost half of 46, it is very slightly less than 1/3rd.
And there's no reason you can't extract a country's resources while also brutalizing the population.
>>1211899
OP literally what the fuck are you talking about? Define your terms faggot.
How would you quantify any of this?
You are not even asking a question, you are just using a rhetorical device you fucking sophist.
But yes, the death of Adolf Hitler was much worse.
>>1212225
He was ruling over a population 3-4 times bigger than that of the Soviet Union going through a highly resisted revolution to switch from absolute monarchy to an agrarian communist people's republic.
Give the guy a break.
>>1218707
Define "Killed". Surely Hitler didn't go around indiscriminately slitting throats.
>>1215136
That's the point of history. And anthropology.
>>1212045
There was something rather cool about FDR and his wheelchair.
At the very head of a multi-front across-planet war against European fascists and the Japanese empire, was a cripple.
Seems rather American really.
>>1212382
The Russians want to set it off early.
>>1211899
the ukrainian famine engineered by stalin
I really want to know how many people did dictators personally kill themselves? I imagine hitler at least 1 in WW1. I think Stalin must have personally killed at least more than 10 people
TLDR how many people did dictators kill personally as opposed to ordering others to do it
>>1211899
The holocaust didn't happen.
>Has there been anything worse than the holocaust?
Pic related. Technically the biggest ethnic cleansing ever. It involved 14 million people being removed from the premises.
>>1211899
In all honesty, the death of Native American cultures
Not that I think what the Europeans did was "wrong", mind you. But since 80-90% of them died from diseases, those cultures never got to develop along with the Old World. I think it would been interesting to see how America would be if they had been immune from Old World diseases.
>>1212454
Im safe! In that bottom tip of texas :3
>>1211899
The Mongols?
Better question: what are some fucking stupid events that I can make youtube videos about so people will laugh?
>>1223735
And what does it depict?
