When you read about the Roman conquests, do you tend to sympathize with the Romans themselves or the peoples who they conquered?
I always feel bad for the Gauls and Carthaginians, but I always find myself rooting for the Romans against the Germans
>>1200485
Neither. X conquered Y. Period.
They did a fuckton of damage to people they conquered. But in a longtime view they pretty much fixed and build things up.
Always the Romans. Pre-Constantine, I mean. After that they can get fucked.
>>1200485
I tend to sympathize more with characters than with peoples, so if I "take sides" it's based on that.
>>1200485
Rome, I like to root for the absolute madmen, and Romans were downright insane.
>>1200538
This.
>Caesar conquering the Gauls
Oh those poor people
>Claudius conquering the British
Fuck yeah, go get them Claudius, and show Rome what you're made of!
>>1200577
Claudius is one of my favorite historical figures ever
>>1200485
Always liked that picture. Here's a better resolution.
>>1200577
I felt sorry for the Gauls being used by Caesar as lootbags and easy land, but after his conquests Gaul was one of the most loyal provinces outside of the peninsula.
I think they were living pretty well for that to be the case.
The Britons are just a bunch of shits though.
>>1200656
It's ironic because the iberian peninsula was one of the parts of Europe the romans needed more time to conquer completely.
>>1200495
This. The objectively right way to read or write anything historical.
Roma Victoria! Fucking barbarians cucks, fuck them.
>>1200495
/thread
Wehraboos shitposting about >muh Arminius are fucking annoying. Teutoberg forest is to blame for germqnics having such a stupidly inflated opinion of themselves
>>1200485
The Romans were the progressive force for civilization at that time.
Totally Pro-Roman.
The Eternal Latin killed the shit out of a huge number of ancient cultures. Because of them, we may very well see Celtic culture go extinct. I dislike cultural eradication, so Roman boots make me rather buttflustered depending on the event.
>>1200485
I'm a fan of the Celts, and I don't really like the modern misconception that they were primitive savages. But I think becoming part of the Roman Empire was good for both them and Rome.
>>1201525
This. Muh Hellenism, muh goddammit Antiochos you fucking did the exact same thing at Raphia wtf are you doing at Magnesia going for the goddamn baggage train instead of rolling up the flank reeeeeee
>>1200485
Rome all the way. Ecspecially when it's against Caledonians and Parthians.
>>1200485
>feel bad for the Gauls
They sacked Rome first.
>Carthaginians
Merchant lords who practiced barbaric human sacrifices and would ultimately have caused western civilization to stagnate due to their lack of any sort of wander lust and obsession with maritime economy.
Romans, mostly because they had a bunch of likable everyday guys who's stories survived the centuries and it make them look more sympathetic then their enemies whose common soldiers are essentially faceless mooks and only the generals are remembered
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaius_Crastinus
>rastinus, whom Caesar considered to be amongst his best soldiers, was promoted by Caesar to the rank of Primus Pilus, or "First File" Centurion
>He turned to Caesar and said "Today, general, I shall earn your gratitude whether I live or die". He almost broke through the enemy line before being killed by an enemy legionary thrusting a gladius in his mouth. Appianus reports that after the battle Caesar himself said to be in Crastinus' debt, tributed him heroic rites and erecting an altar.
