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Chainmail Effectiveness
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There's been a lot of debate over the effectiveness of plate armor, but what about other, earlier armors?
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>>1198592
Couldn't stop an arrow, crossbow bolt, sword, really couldn't stop much, but it could soften the impact
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>>1198595
bullshit.
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>>1198603
No u
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>>1198612
>>1198603
Do I really have to do this? Alright maille (as it is properly known) is VERY effective. It wont completely stop arrows or quarells or javelins if hist with enough force however it will take significant force out of the blow. It has been tested time and again with 120 lb+ long bows at point blank and maille with padding behind (how we are 90% sure it was always worn) was not penetrated. Sure it would hurt but you're not dead. Quarells most likely will punture but by that time almost no one is wearing only maille. Cuts from any blade are completely shut down by maille; sure if you hit hard enough you may break bone but you'd have to deliver quite a buffet. Stabs will pierce it but it still requires a lot more force than on a lighter armored target.

TL;DR: Maille works great but isn't perfect, because no armor is.
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>>1198983
To larify I mean by the time crossbows of sufficient force become common it was rare to only wear maille for armor.
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>>1198983
>>1198988
I apologize for my spelling I was in a hurry.
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>>1198592
https://youtu.be/xw3lcgIAwLk

this is a good video talking about the effectiveness of historically accurate vs. modern "cosplay" chainmail. It's worth a watch if you're truly interested. They have other good videos that are similar too. :)
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>>1198595
it could stop them all. the thing it couldn't do was softening the impact.
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>>1198592
you can pierce it with needle it's shit.
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>>1198983
was the testing you saw with butted mail or riveted mail? did they have cloth armor like a gambeson underneath?
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>>1198592
https://myarmoury.com/feature_mail.php


I recommend you read this bro.
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>>1199943
About that....


https://youtu.be/NjKbi7YUNaI?t=214

3:34
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>>1198592
Chainmail doesn't protect you from direct blows, but it does protect you from minor scratches caused by misdirected blows, which prevents you from getting wounds that could get easily infected.
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>>1198592
Pretty good armour, plate was obviously better but if chainmail was shit it wouldn't have been used for around 2000 years continually.
>>1198595
troll post
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>>1199975
It will stop any slash and weaker thrusts
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>>1199975
Maybe you should stop pulling shit for your ass.
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>At this point a courageous and daring sergeant by the name of Peter of Tournelle, who was fighting on foot because his enemies had killed his horse, went toward the count, lifted up the covering of his horse, and struck it so well with his sword that he plunged it to the guard all the way to the guts. Upon seeing this blow, one of the knights who was fighting on the side of the count took him by the bridle and dragged him out of the press with great effort and against his will. Then he took flight as best he could while Quenon of Condune and his brother John pursued him and threw this knight to the ground. The count's horse dropped dead and the count fell in such a manner that his right leg was trapped under the horse's neck. At this point Hugh and Gauthier of Fontaine and John of Rouvray appeared. While they were arguing as to whom should take the count prisoner, John of Nesle appeared on the scene. This John was a handsome knight and large of body, but his prowess matched neither the handsomeness nor the amount of his body as he had fought no one in the course of the whole day. So, along with his knights, he was arguing with those who held the count as he wanted to gain some undeserved praise for the capture of such a great man. In the end, he would have succeeded in taking the count away from them if the Elect Guerin had not appeared at the place. As soon as the count saw him, he gave him his sword and surrendered to him, begging him to spare his life. However, before the Elect had arrived at the place where the knights were fighting with each other, a boy named Commotus, as if he had been a man of strength and great virtue, ripped the helmet off the count's head and inflicted a large wound on his head. Then he lifted the side of his hauberk, thinking he would strike him in the stomach, but the knife could find no entry as the iron chausses were strongly sown to the hauberk.
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>>1199990
>They fought so strongly and long that they forced the whole of Otto's battalion to fall back and retreat so close to him that Peter Mauvoisin, who was more powerful at arms than wise in the ways of the world, took him by the bridle and tried to pull him out of the fray. But he saw that he could not accomplish his aim on account of the press and the great number of his people who closely surrounded him. Gerard La Truie, who was nearby, struck him in the middle of the chest with a knife which he held unsheathed in his hand, and when he saw that he could not pierce through (because of the thickness of the armor with which warriors of our time are equipped and which is impenetrable), he gave him a second blow to make up for the failure of the first. He thought that he was going to hit Otto's body but instead he met the horse's head which was high and raised; he dealt it a blow right in the eye and the knife, thrust with great virtue, slipped all the way to its brain. The horse, feeling this great blow, took fright and began to struggle strongly. He turned back towards the area he had come from in such a way that Otto showed his back to our knights and ran away on the spot. He left as prize for his enemies the eagle and the standard and everything he had brought to the field. When the King saw him thus leave, he told his people: "Otto is running away, from now on we will not see his face." He had not fled very far before his horse dropped dead. Then a fresh one was brought to him and after mounting it he took flight as fast as he could, as he could withstand no more the virtue of the knights of France, seeing that William des Barres had twice grabbed him by the neck but could not get a good hold because the horse was strong and skittish and because of the press of his followers.

Battle of Bouvines
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