>History is written by the victors
How much true Is this line?
>>1192558
True, to a degree.
Example: every damn country who fought in ww2 with the exception of Germany.
Said some dudes on meth that jerk off to baby porn
>>1192558
>Historians disagree with my layman fringe views informed by wikipedia and pop history
>They must be part of a conspiracy to suppress me!
>>1192664
They're on the fringe because they lost.
None of it, it is just a trope repeated ad naseum by uniformed idiots trying to defend whatever brutal regimes that lost.
Wrong. Most literature on the Vietnam War has been written by Americans. (I mean actual historians, not internet warriors trying to argue that the Yanks won.)
>>1192558
Tell that to the Jews
>>1192558
Each country has a different historiography. The historians of countries who have lost often create their own revisionist version of history that differs from the mainstream. Serbia lost the Yugoslav wars, yet, their school books probably portray the events differently than those of their neighbours. Unless there is a very intrusive occupational regime, the victors don't have the power to prevent the losers from writing their own kind of history.
>>1192558
Lost Cause historiography has proved to be particularly resilient.
I think you'll find that "history is written by the victors" is really only true in the pre-modern era, where archives and documentation don't really exist for the losers since they're all dead.
>>1192737
Given that the equivalent category in Vietnamese historiography is "the American War" that's no wonder.
>>1192737
Or how Franz Halder is basically the guy responsible for writing the original US histography of the Soviet-German war.
>>1192558
Just look at jap history books or hell, any japs' take on World War 2.
Then they have the gall to bitch, whine, and moan that the Americans are imposing victors' justice on them and kept "re-writing" what truly happened.
>>1192558
Very true.
Modern Warfare 2 had a good campaing.
>>1193436
As did the first game.
Too bad the third one shit the bed
Plenty of shit history is written by the losers to make up excuses for why they lost.
>>1192558
Patently ridiculous, a very small minority of historians are named Victor
>>1193452
I'm looking foward for the remake.
>>1193436
>>1193452
>CoD 4 and MW2: Political commentary, solid plotline, memorable locations and characters, used set pieces well
>MW3: Completely ignores the interesting parts of the previous games, actually recreates a scene from Team America for dramatic effect, shoehorns in new character and Makarov so they've been involved from the start
What the fuck happened?
>>1193970
I enjoyed MW3 a bit.
I think they (the developers) thought something like "hey, what if we give our campaing levels an epic touch, let's make this like world war 3".
And so we had levels in Paris, Berlin, London.
I saw the Eiffel tower fall and I saw a terrorist attack right at westminster.
I invaded Hamburg with the support of Apaches, Abrams, Leopards, Bradleys, Ospreys, Blackhawks and F-15s.
This was all very enjoyable.
And they also made a nice touch with the plot. Although it seemed a bit too forced, the whole case against Makarov was technically intense.
For me what ruined the game was the graphics and overall gameplay.
There's something about the image, the way you move arround in the game, that feels far worse than MW2 or even COD4.
I think that if the game had the same mechanics as, say, Advanced Warfare, it would have been pretty much awesome.
