What was their biggest mistake?
Being an anachronism.
not being able to adress the minority issue properly
>>1187142
making their empire out of 20 minority groups while only caring about the greivences of 2 of them
>>1187142
Multiracialism.
>>1187142
Having Hungary. Nothing good has ever come out of that godforsaken stretch of land
It was okay under the Hapsburgs but once they merged with the magyars after their failed revolution shit really hit the fan. Soon all the ethnicities would demand the same equal status.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1848
>>1187142
It was multicultural.
>>1187142
Letting the Ausgleich happen that essentially nerfed its ability to resist German influence.
Losing WW1.
The "multinational separatism" meme is overblown.
>>1187142
Lost WWI.
That's all really. You cant say it was "destined to fail."
>>1187142
Conrad von Hotzendork
Losing the war.
>>1189869
Also this.
Getting cucked by Prussia
>>1187142
>LE MULTICULTURALISM :DDD
Funny. When cunts got their nation-states, the region became utter shit.
>>1189869
You make this board a worse place than they do.
Please, leave.
>>1189869
It literally was though
>>1190128
Are you just repeating the same hilariously misinformed public consensus like how MacArthur was a good general, or have you actually read relevant materials and have an argument? If so, please present it.
Not gassing Romanis and Slavs
>>1190602
>Said minority group did not rise up in grorious revolution versus Austro-Hungarians.
Hmm...
>>1187142
Not paying enough attention to their military.
It was a clusterfuck with the two constituent countries favouring their own reigments, with the common army being underfunded.
>>1190143
You cant expect /pol/ tards, to have any good relevan materials at hand, its all about niche racist problems with them.
>>1187142
I would say in their last decades they had incompetent ruler and generals. Like that main general in ww1, who actually lost for most of the war. or the austrian part that was way too much into attacking sovereign states.
>>1187142
Existing
>>1189869
This is literally one of the times that multiculturalism fucked someone over. Everyone spoke different languages, had little loyalty to the nation as a whole, and generally hated each other. It hurt military cohesion and morale.
>>1190664
>had little loyalty to the nation as a whole
Good thing it wasn't a nation then.
>It hurt military cohesion and morale.
Funny how the country balkanized first before the army.
>>1190664
This isn't multiculturalism. Austria-Hungary was made up of a huge number of ethnic groups dominated by the German and to a much lesser extent the Hungarians. It was a collection of nations held together by an incompetent ruling class that refused to allow peaceful change by the massive Viennese middle-class, instead waiting until 1895 when they gave control of the city that held the Empire together to Christian Socialists.
It was a combination of the socialists racist rabble-rousing, unworkable language laws that they extended only to the ethnic groups that demanded them the loudest (i.e. the eternal Bohemian) and the fact their middle class professionals had given up on the very idea of Austria-Hungary. It could've been possible to save it up until the 1890s, but Joseph was too much of a dinosaur to do anything.
>>1190664
>listening to the memes
>>1189739
And what are these races you speak of? I guess you could say gypsies belong to a different race, but they weren't a huge factor (or even a factor).
>>1190592
I don't think it's possible to gas 60% of your population.
>>1190730
>not spending thousands of dollars for a worthless piece of paper and a history "degree" for the memes
>>1187142
Not giving independence to all the nations and not reducing their rule to their own homeland.
>>1187142
>What was their biggest mistake?
Should have gone full German-centric from the start. Especially after they ended serfdom and still had the loyalty of the peasants.
Being retardedly conservative.
Its suprises me that retard Franz Joseph isnt criticised more.
>>1191059
He was treated by the Austrians like the Russians treated the Tsar before Bloody Sunday and WWI. It was never Uncle Joe's fault.
>>1187142
this guy. plus the massively outdated military and industrial equipment, some of which can also be attributed to him.
>>1191053
What am I seeing?
I remember Polish peasants killing Polish noble cause their first loyalty was to anti-serfdom Austria.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galician_slaughter
The peasants sold noble heads to the central state. Austria had a major chance to turn these peasants Austrian and failed.
>>1192235
Hi Indy
>>1187142
So, multiculturalism was not a problem (it's ok, it's not the first time I see this being claimed often source to back it).
What made A-H literal shit in military, then?
>>1190690
Difference between multi ethnicity and multiculturalism ?
>>1192428
>So, multiculturalism was not a problem
It was
>What made A-H literal shit in military, then?
You mean other than an army that spoke dozens of languages acros three religious traditions with only a tiny minority of the army having any actual personal loyalty to the emperor?
Well, the Austrians were backwards and conservative as fuck. They were the exact opposite of France at the time (modern, liberal, centralized, monocultural, monoreligious, secured of the loyalty of the entire people, militarily effective).
>>1189737
Shame that the guy who wanted to do something about it was murdered by guys who totally had no connection at all to the Serbian government because giving rights to Slavs threatened MUH PAN-SLAVIC UTOPIA.
>>1187142
Existing
>>1193359
Multiculturalism is one culture made up of many. Butthurt aside, Australia is a literal multicultural country, because whining about how strict your Asian parents are has literally become part of the Australian experience. A-H was a kingdom made up of people who saw themselves as Hungarian, German, Czech, etc. and not Austro-Hungarians.
>>1193530
Go shitpost pop history somewhere else Indy
