MUH LEGIONS VARUS
GIBE ME BACK MAH LEGIONS
>>1186318
ahw shiii
>>1186318
>when you're going through the Rome 2 benchmark test for the 15th time
>>1186318
HOT OFF THE PRESS NEWS FROM THE RHINE 20000 DEAD
>>1186318
>republican rome
>huge loss
>WE'RE COMING BACK BITCH
>wins total victory
>imperial rome
>huge loss
>waaahh why did u hit me? that hurt
>#RomanLivesMatter
>>1191016
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Weser_River
>>1191017
9000 hours in paint
>>1191070
the third century
hadrian being a cuck
>>1191070
judaism
The Romans achieved nothing of worth after 146BC. The Punic Wars were the last achievement of Rome that required any resolve or strength. The Empire blobs were a colonization, by Late Rome there were barely any Romans living in the "Roman" Empire ("LOOK AT ME, I iz ROman now"). The WRE was a joke and the East very soon became a bad joke. All of the hype comes from the Pope tricking barbarians into saying "We iz Roman Empires because the Pope says so", and so preserving the church- later to, by Innocent III, establish an effective European theocracy.
*tips Spengler*
>>1191070
>be general during the Republic, conquering some barbarian tribe
>get gold, glory, everyone loves you, become consul, stamp your feet all day, become proconsul, kill more barbarians, retire to sunny Spain
>be general during the Empire
>kill barbarians
>get exiled/disgraced/murdered for being a better general than the Emperor
>>1191084
Your meme was dead in 1700 Gibbon.
>within a few decades the republic cultivated marius, sulla and gaius julius
>within hundreds of years the empire didn't cultivate one general on that level.
Empirefags disgust me
>>1191149
uh.marcus Agrippa,. Aurelian, Trajan, Constantine, and the shitton of Illyrian generals that carried the empire?
![945F1eM[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/H3aOPHC.jpg "945F1eM[1].jpg")
>>1191158
So basically, emperor's and a few unnoticeable generals you are touting because they just did their fucking job of beating a small raiding warband?
>>1191158
None of them are half the geneal marius was. And marius wasn't half the general caesar was
Id love to see what would Marius, Sylla or Cesar against the motherfucking Huns.
Dont mind me, theyre all superb but in Late Antiquity there were also very good generals or on the same level that those three, but couldnt survive long enough.
Dont forget Aetius or Stillicho for example.
>>1191070
the Praetorian Guard
not even joking
Aurelian reconqured the Gaulic Empire and Palmyran Empire fighting battles against superior or equal forces.
Saying he wasn't a good general just shows that you don't know late Roman history.
>>1191149
>who is motherfucking Belisarius
>>1186318
>>1191353
Caesar was planning a war against the Parthians. And you know smelly horse archer niggers are all the same.
>>1191201
>Sulla's marching on rome with 6 legions
>muh gladiators will defend the city
Military genius right there.
>>1186318
*Vare
t. Latin pro
>o no, i lost 10% of muh army
Did Augustus overreact?
>>1191884
oh yes, the elusive ablative case
>>1191869
>7 time consul
>most based kraut remover in history
Sullafag pls
>>1191911
>ablative
Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses
>>1191900
He was a bitch. Did the senate quit after Cannae?
>>1191992
quid de me dixisti, pathice?
>>1191363
Agreed
>>1192000
Not only did they not give up after Cannae, they didn't give up after a bunch of other horrible losses and defeats
Say what you will about the senate, they were men who wouldn't quit until they won or they died.
>>1192011
>facies mea cum dux Iaponicus fori audacias plebis sinit
>>1192398
aut futue aut pugnemus
t. Divus Augustus
>>1192532
>futue
Tuam matrem praefero, ape (a probus esse)
>>1191923
How can MARIUS BE SO FUCKING BASED
>>1192821
equidem praefero sororem tuam (ceterum puto eam magnam esse meretricem), sed in hac vita omnia habere non possumus.
>>1193008
Well I mean he did create the greatest killing machine the world has ever known
>>1191353
Cesar would feast in Attila skull since he had balls of marble
Why were the Romans the ulrimate genocidal cunts? They comitted 9 genocides during their entire reign.
To list them:
Carthaginian genocide
Samnite genocide
Greek genocide
Gallic genocide
Belgae genocide
Jewish genocide
Dacian genocide
Latin genocide
Armenian genocide
What gives? The last one even happened a hundred years ago! So we can't give the exuse of the moral standards being different back then.
>>1193237
(you)
>>1193177
>not letting those gallic women and children past his encirclement
>letting them starve and die in the middle of no man's land
>genocided villages that dared oppose him
Fuck this guy was brutal.
>>1193237
>Carthaginian genocide
Carthaginians are Phoenicians, they wiped out the city of Carthage and enslaved most of the survivors after the third Punic War, but they didn't genocide them or other Phoenician colonies in North Africa or Hispania and Iberia.
>Samnite genocide
No such thing.
>Greek genocide
No such thing.
>Jewish genocide
No such thing.
>Dacian genocide
No such thing.
>Latin genocide
No such thing.
>Armenian genocide
No such thing.
>>1191163
>unnoticeable
He just named the best Emperors in Roman history. Please refrain from shitposting.
For every great man the Republic produced, the Empire did as well. The problem is that Empire also produced far more shitheads who ruined everything.
>>1193237
What's wrong with genocide? It's literally the most effective way of dealing with your problems.
>>1193237
The weak should fear the stong.
Survival of the fitess
Too bad they didnt get all the jews
>>1193696
Well the Roman Army was starving too, he couldnt feed the enemy as well.
>>1193704
>Jewish genocide
>No such thing
>Bar Kokhba
ISHYGDDT
>>1193704
>forgetting the entire tribes of Gauls, Germani and Britannai being removed
>forgetting how the holy land and Egypt were depopulated after the last Jewish revolt
>forgetting the series of attempted empire-wide Christian purges
>forgetting how the Gothic families were wholly massacred after Stillcho was beheaded
Wasteland or no, peace is peace. Pretty sure Rome invented genocide.
Come on dude
>>1193752
There were no empire wide christian purges, this is 4th century church propaganda.
>>1193237
>Armenian genocide
>implying Turks are modern day Romans
Fucking triggered me mate
>>1193871
overall it's exagerrate but there was a serious persecution across the whole empire (except for Constantine's section) in the late 3rd century
>>1193889
Well if you lool at the context under Diocletion, they seriously had it coming.
You can go atempting to destroy a Nation with such deep and rooted tradition as Rome and not get backlash.
Especially when you do crazy shit like interupting their worship Westboro style.
>>1191104
You know absolutely nothing about Imperial Rome.
Victory in the last Punic war was the start of Rome as the greatest civilisation on earth.
Your pathetic opinions are worthy of no further comment.
Vae Victis!!
>>1193969
>Late Empire
>Lorica Segmenta
>Carrying Polybian era spears
Wew lad
Nothing personel, romans
>>1193783
When I describe "genocide" I speak tribally. So these Gauls were cool, but THOSE Gauls will get raped, killed, their village burnt and the ashes burnt again. You can't tell me the Romans didn't demonstrate punitive actions to those who resist or betray Rome. I.E. Gauls, Germans, Brits and even Greeks. An Emperor actually got so mad he died when the tribes dared to question his wisdom concerning this.
As for religious persecution, you can't tell me that "everyone in the Empire make a sacrifice to Jupiter, or else" isn't an empire-wide persucution of both Jews and Christians. It would definitely escalated to the exaggerated persucution described by early Bishops.
The Romans policy toward Jewish resistance is different from Christian, because Judaism was ancient, even in the 4th century. Christianity was afforded no respect, and was treated harshly.
I'm not sucking any bishops dick, but getting burned alive to appease the pagan gods wasn't unheard of.
>>1193871
Google Dioclentian
>>1193982
I am not a re-enactor, so maxima mea culpa.
>>1194030
The Romans did not enforce Roman religion in the entire empire, that is retarded. They had the most religious freedom of anyone at the time. There was a huge christian church built in Rome at the time of the Diocletian pursecutions.
They did have city wide sacrifices in Rome that you were required to attend as per tradition. But instead Christians would chimpout and disrupt them. The first Bishop Diocletian had burned was because he wouldnt stop interupting roman religion services.
The Jews got their shit pushed in because the Romans let greek settlers build a temple in jerusalem and the jews chimped out and attacked a legion.
The Romans never did anything with out a purpose. It was always cause and effect.
Th
Christianity was probably the first time the Romans ever dealt with a group of people activily attempting to destroy the Patheon
>>1194031
>Empire wide
Tell me about the christians in Britannia, Gaul, Spain, etc..
>>1194038
But they are, or maybe are and should fucking know better
>>1191070
Christians
>>1191070
LITERALLY plebs.
Back when the aristoi kept them in line everything was chill.
>>1193237
>Armenian Genocide by the Ottoscum
>Saying Roman's did it
Either you think the Ottos were the 3rd Rome or you think that the Roman Empire existed 100 years ago
Either way you're autistic
>>1193237
good post
