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What advice would you give to your favorite 16th century state?
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What advice would you give to your favorite 16th century state?
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>1550
>austrian empire
no
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Kill the szlachta poland, kill them all
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I'd give Poland bad advice because I don't like Poland.
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>>1184511
Show them a bs map about how they won a war against a certain kingdom and trigger some wars;

England, Spain, and Holy Roman Empire - Invade France
Russia invade Lithuania and Ottman Empire invade Poland.
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>>1184511
Convince Carlos V to unite Europe against England before it's too late
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Papal States--Venice is weaker than it looks. Go kick their asses. DEUS VULT.
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All of Europe
>Remove Kebab
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>Scotland
Aye don't bother with the whole Darien thing. Find somewhere nicer and less malarial to colonise, like somewhere in Canada maybe.
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>>1184511

poland takes all of eastern europe

turkey takes half of southern europe

HRE and Papal states

Never Again!
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>>1184661
But Anon, they wound up doing that anyway.
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>Ireland
Hold the door
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>>1184511
Tell the Ottomans that they will successfully win a war against the combined forces of Austria, Poland, and Russia by coming back from the brink of defeat in Istanbul
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>>1184661
well they tried at least lmao

>captcha:del europe
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>Russia
Just don't.
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>>1184511
tell the ottomemes to nip the jannisaries in the bud and stop using outdated galleys
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>France
Convert to Calvinism asap
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>>1185729
also kill any babies with enver as the first name
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>>1184607

Wouldn't really make a difference seeing as they're going to get swallowed up anyway.
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Denmark-Norway, just build a lot of forts. When in doubt attrition them out.
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>>1184511
This map triggers me
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>>1184511
Habsburgs are mistake.
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Do not join the thirty years war Christian the fourth you stupid piece of shit.

In the winter of 1657-1658, the belts will freeze over.
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>>1184511
>Venice
Reform the bureaucracy and army
Open the Mazor Consegio
Shift the economy's focus to international banking and the trade network's focus upon continental Europe
Don't keep neutral in european affairs, but try and back those most likely to further the republic's interests
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>>1184511

Denmark-Norway. Build wall in the border with Sweden.
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>>1185729
+ To start shilling Ottomanism harder
+ Giving more benefits to Balkan, so to stop separatism
+ Again to stop stealing their kids
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Cry, because Grenada is fucked, no matter what happens
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>>1186296
Granada was death in that century. Btw fuck off mudshit. Islam must die at all costs builder blower
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>>1184511

embrace reformation
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Make nukes!
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>>1184511
>ireland
The English can't sustain a war with you long term, it'll drive them into bankruptcy
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>>1184766
Nah they kept kebab alive for a long time to stop Russian and Austrian expansionism in the Balkans. That and look at what's going on today in Europe, Kebab presence hasn't been so strong since the 8th century, makes me wish we had a Charles Martel to push them the fuck out
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>>1184511
Remove Denmark and remove Russia.

t. Swede.
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>>1184511

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>>1184619
But Turkroach did invade poland
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>>1184511
Cinvince Brabant to revolt against the Habsburgs so they aren't placed in Utrecht on shitty maps
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Make some friends, Poland. You're gonna need them.
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>>1184511
>Poland-Lithuania
TRUST. NO. ONE.
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>>1184511
Don't worry about vienna they aren't worth your time destroy the russians though because they are getting to strong.

I would send this suleiman the magnificent.
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>>1184511
"Please El Rei Dom Sebastião, the time of crusades is over. Please, oh please dont go on a crusade in northern africa. They have alot of manpower, we will loose alot of man and you dont have an heir, my sir. Its too dangerous"
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>>1184511
Charles kill yourself and let the comuneros win,else you will destroy the economy of Spain forever. Regards a Spaniard from the future.
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>>1184511
Maybe starting a fuckton of wars against Sweden is not a good idea, Christian. And stop bankrupting the country with your fucking buildings and the fleet. Stop selling our colonies to pay for your buildings. Why do we not have any infantry at all? What if Öresund freezes over? Why are you so shit?
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>>1184525
that "Empire" is for the Holy Roman Empire dipshit
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>>1186942
NOT EVEN YOUSELF.
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>>1186942
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Invading Korea is a really stupid idea tbqh senpai
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>>1184511
Tell Poland to raze Prussia and to never make the Treaty of Bromberg in 100 years
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>>1187389
Alternatively just make it so the duchy reverts to Poland in 1618 rather than going to Brandenburg
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>>1187300
>Holy Roman Empire
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>>1184511
>What advice would you give to your favorite 16th century state?
Don't trust the Spanish to be competent. Don't trust any English kings to keep their word, even the Catholics. They're all perfidious

t. Ireland
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>>1184511
Tell Suleiman to not listen to his whore of a wife and not kill his eldest son and best friend. To abdicate and give his son the throne while sending his other sons away to become wealthy corsairs to ensure their survival. Then make plans to attack Vienna again.

t. a slimy little turkroach
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>>1185731
This but for the Spanish.
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>>1184607
Pola d is based cuck
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>>1184511
>Poland

Don't help Austria against the Turks.
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>>1185731
>>1187484
>wanting heresy to ruin Europe
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>>1187602
Popes were shit though. Plus getting all that church land and getting control of those institutions will only make those states stronger.
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>>1184511
fuck poland man
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Keep colonizing, keep England happy, Keep Spain happy, don't get delusions of grandeur and invade N. Africa, destroy the Dutch Navy with England's help.
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>>1184511
>the netherlands

Declare war on Spain sooner faggot
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>>1184619
>"England, Spain, and Holy Roman Empire - Invade France"
>implying they could win
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>>1185731
>getting rid of Catholicism

Shoo shoo, protestant scum.
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>>1184511
Saxony
NEVER EVER trust Brandenburg.
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>>1184511
>France
You guys are alright. Don't go to Pavia in 1525.
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>>1187597
History noob here,

why not?
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>>1188395
Because Austria, Prussia and the Ottomans would end up partitioning Poland multiple times.
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>>1184511
>What advice would you give to your favorite 16th century state?

Poland:
Kick out the Jews
Ally with the Turks
Exterminate the Germans
Hold the line against the Russians
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>>1188395
the partitions, also some fun facts: the ottomans were the only one recognising the polish state after partitions, thay called it lehistan
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>>1184511
Habsburg Spain.
Chill out on that south american silver, and concentrate on giving that silver to the chinese for trade.
Please don't marry your niece or your first or second cousin.
Kill those filthy prots.
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>>1184511
Poland
I'd tell them to ask for help
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>>1184511
>Papal states
Let Henry divorce and remarry
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>>1184511
Join with Scotland and create a Gael alliance to defeat Perfidious Albion.
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>>1187440

>Don't trust the Spanish to be competent.

It would have helped not having to deal with a fuckton of warfronts going on at the same time, Padraig.
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>Sweden
Those marches on the border with Russia... might be a good place to build some kind of fort.
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Ottos:

Completely switch over to using firearms, get some of that printing press shit & switch to the Latin alphabet.
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>>1190583
ottos used firearms and cannon sooner than most of europe, agree with printing
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>>1190621

True, while AFAIK they also standardized firearms first they still had a bit of a rivalry between the bowmen & musketeers. They also never really put out new designs while Europe blew right past them.
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>>1187300
>silesia/bohemia/moravia/carinthia
>austria
no
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>>1184511
'England mate, when you colonise America you're going to want to bring African slaves. Don't do it man, It's not worth it'.
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>>1184511
Don't marry your cousin
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>Italian city states.
Forget the galley. Heavy ship is the shit. And you should at least copy Poland-Lithuania and HRE style of federation if don't want to be swallowed by France and Habsburg. Also you should follow Portugal and venture to East Indies.
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>>1184511
do not fall for the schism
jan hus make czech great again
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>>1190881

High Energy Hussites
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>Sweden

Tell them to reward settling land even more and to encourage population growth any means necessary. With that i could actually see them become the France of the baltic sea.
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>>1187602
Calvinism made Europe rich. The Catholic Church was greedy and took all of the land and resources for itself
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>>1191079

t. Richard Dawkins
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>>1184511
DONT STOP CUMMING IN MARY! And maybe marry her a tad bit younger.
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>>1191164
this but Franscotia
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>>1188083
After San Quentin Spain could have taken Paris m8.
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>>1184511
Tell Poland to annex Prussia, ally swedes instead of Austrians and revert to hereditary monarchy. Also create stationary armies of cossacks and use them to keep shitskins at their side of border.
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>>1191079
>Calvinism aka CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIINNNNNNN the Christianity
>made Europe rich
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>>1191194
I forgot about the most important thing
Dont intervene into Russian time of troubles: let them cannibalize each other without giving them common enemy.
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>>1184511
To Ottomans: Forget Vienna, ally with Poland to fuck Russia before they go full superpower. Then attack Vienna. Colonize the Balkans. Also industrialize and kill all Wahhabi scum.

To Poland: Either keep Prussia or raze it to the ground. Never trust the eternal Austrian or Russian scum. Ally with the Ottomans to dominate Eastern Europe.
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>>1188083
Did anyone but Maximilian really sent any troops to the war? I dont seem to recall any Castillian or English army fighting the war at all.
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>>1184511
To Spain: Ignore those fucking austrians, they're all literally retards. Focus on the colonies and the mediterranean, hear the actual needs of all the iberian realms instead of playing to be king of the world. Also Philip please calm down there's nothing wrong with genociding heretics but don't imprison your own fucking son just because he believes a bit less of genocide would be more profitable. The duke of Alba is great, keep him close, but maybe he can serve the kingdom better somewhere else?
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>>1188083
Spain defeated the french several times during the 16th century though. Granted it wasn't the best century for France in general, unlike the next ones, but it's the one we're talking about.
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>>1191219
>but don't imprison your own fucking son just because he believes a bit less of genocide would be more profitable
Kek. His son committed treason and was fucking nuts.
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>>1191229
Is there another advice to avoid crowning Philip III and his awful valido de Duke of Lerma?
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>>1187597
They didn't help Austria against the turks in the 15th century, did they? I'm sure they didn't help Charles V and his brother against Suleiman.
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>>1191260
Sorry, meant 16th century of course.
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>>1184511
I'd tell them to go for Ivan Zapolja as a ruker of Croatia-Hungary
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>>1191264
>being a literal puppet of Suleiman

wew
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>>1191278
Roaches are the lesser evil.
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>>1191285
You're the kind of people that prevented Charles V from attacking Constantinople for christendom.
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>>1191348
Get over it. We would never conquer it back anyway. Constantinople is a relic of the times long gone.
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>>1184511
I guess I could give a very distant warning to Britain about the downfall after their rise: Don't treat the colonies like shit. The French are useful allies. Don't trust the eternal kraut
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Tell the tetona to fuck off from Latvian and Estonian lands and let the natives rule again.
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>>1191245
Probably telling a noble to hire an assasin or something,and then letigimize one of John's bastard/The duke of Savoy's son sons as the heir. I dunno. But Phillip's first son was a nut case. Phillip the III was way better than that maniac ever would. But realisticly the problem starts when the comuneros lost,not with Phillip the III.Imo a comunero victory would have made Castille 100% isolacionist,and made the kingdom focuse on trade and industry,which would have brought greater benefits in the long run.
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>>1191367
If France aided Charles it could have happened. But Francis was too proud for that
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>>1191367
There was a chance, it was the perfect moment. A flemish/burgundian king of Spain becoming Emperor was the perfect chance for western Europe to become involved in eastern european affairs avoiding the previous disasters where only eastern european powers were trying to do something. The conquest of constantinople was still kind of fresh, it wasn't a relic of the times long gone yet.

But Francis and Luther had other plans.
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>>1187330
Kek
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Tell northumberland to kill mary, then marry guilford or robert to elizabeth
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>>1184635
Good luck with France then. The entire life purpose of Charles V and his ancestors both in Iberia and Austria was to stop France for centuries. If not for the continued wars against the french against Aragon, the HRE and England...
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>>1192279
The coallitions were pointless as Castille (probably the second most powerful country in Europe at the time) was Francophile until Isabella happened. And you can see that the coallitions started winning whem Castille got involved. A French Castillian union was more likely than a Iberian union at one point. If you think about it the history of western Europe (until the XIX century) has been basically a French team vs a coallition team with few exceptions like the 30 years war
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>>1192369
Exactly. That's why ignoring France would have been even worse!
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>>1192393
Depends on the perspective. Castille had a neat deal with France,their navy for commercial rooutes,military aliances and not molesting Genova,that was huge soutce of income for Castille. Probably a French Castillian union would have been better for Castille,but who knows. It would have been scary for sure tho. All the Castillian navy and colonies (plus having a huge manpower pool) and France's huge manpower would have steamrolled Europe,well forever.
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>Portugal

Don't bother fighting for independence when Sain takes over in 1580
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>>1192455

*Spain

dammit
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>>1192455
would give same advice to russia when poland takes over it
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>>1192455
But Portugal was so relevant after its independence from Spain ...
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>>1192608

Can you even read?
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