What happend to them, really ?
If we go back in time Greece was one of the most civilized and developed countries from that era.
They gave us a lot of smart people to this world, also a good contribution to science. They gave us democracy.
And now, well...
Are greeks really greeks ? Or thanks to Ottoman Empire they are only half of what they're was once (interbreeding beetwen a greek and Turkish). Did the Ottoman Empire enrichment them with some "new" DNA ?
Turks happened
If they were, but now they aren't, were they ever?
Christianizm makes everything corrupt.
>>1171886
>MUH GENETIKSS
The same thing happened to Germanics but in reverse.
Are you gonna theorize modern Germanics aren't really Germanics?
>>1171913
Germanics were never civilized
>>1171913
What do you mean ?
What happend to them ?
>>1171914
Pay debts
>>1171924
Germanics went from half naked snow nigger tier to leading gnp tier.
>>1171886
>They gave us democracy.
You post that as if democracy were something good.
>>1171886
Turkish rape.
>democracy
>good
Bulgarians got slavicized then raped Greece
Greece is now a Slavic nation
>>1171886
Greeks and Romans taught us that slavery, infighting and dictatorship built on a permanent class of dropouts are the roads to ruin. Yet in order the USA, Europe and now all White Nations are doing this same thing again.
We deserve everything we fucking get unless we turn this whirly-bird around. We were already warned once and the blowback was the pits of the early medieval era.
Greeks weren't any more civilized than other mediterranean peoples.
>>1172125
Rome's golden age followed two civil wars and Rome sustained its empire for five centuries while having slavery. Sounds like you are wrong as fuck.
>>1171886
I am as far from nationalism as possible,but I can certainly tell you Greeks did not mix with Turks.
There are indeed some more tanned Greeks that you can find everyday. But that's because of a north African migration during the neolithic into mainland Greece. In fact most modern western Turks are actually descendants of ether hellenized anatolians or Ionian settlers, with some kurds there and there. Further due to the millet Ottoman system which split religious communities apart, there was little contact between the Muslim and Christian populations in the Balkans, certianly intermarriage was impossible without conversion to the Muslim faith. And though unfortunate, most Muslim Greeks were kicked out of Greece during the population exchange in 1922.
The whole Greeks were "pure Nordic looking Aryans" is a racist western European prejudice that is made only discount modern Greece as "oriental" lesser people.
Such idiots will cite how every ancient Greek statue is with a straight nose, yet hey ignore that all ancient greek statues were extremely idealized and not done as copies of real people.
>Modern scholars and scientists have supported the notion that there is a dominant racial connection to the ancient Greeks. Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza, Paolo Menozzi, and Alberto Piazza, have found evidence of a genetic connection between the ancient and modern Greeks. Recent genetic analyses of Greek populations have provided strong evidence supporting the existence of overwhelmingly significant levels of continuity between ancient Greeks and modern Greeks (low admixture attributed to genetic isolation due to physical barriers such as hills and mountains)
Cavalli-Sforza, L. L., P. Menozzi and A. Piazza. The History and Geography of Human Genes. Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1994
. ISBN 0691087504
They neglected to worship the blessed Gods and wanted to adopt a desert cult. So the Gods cursed them and let a desert cult (Islam) lose upon them.
>>1172135
>(((Modern scholars and scientists)))
Ancient greeks were hyperborean colonists, ok
>>1172135
You haven't explained how the Latins/Romans destroyed Greek culture.
>>1172151
>adopt desert cult
>gods punish you by letting more desert cults upon you
that's not how it works famalam
>>1172135
>1994
>Quoting genetics
Being this desperate.
>>1172167
You get what you wish for. Take Circe for example. Her pursuers wanted to indulge in their animal desires so she turned them into pig-men. Likewise the Greeks wanted to adopt a sand religion so the Gods turned them from statuesque hellenes to unibrow arabo-turks.
Beautiful Circe, you *fair-locked* Goddess (according to Homer), have mercy on the Hellenes!
>>1172125
Yeah this is wrong. I can't speak for Greece, but if anything, Rome fell when it became MORE lenient with who was allowed into their ranks and citizenship. When they started giving citizenship to foreign people, and allowing non-romans in the army for the first time, they had a rude awakening to the fact that those people were not and were never going to be loyal to Rome.
>>1172243
anyone else getting a whiff of the /pol/cat agenda?
>>1172253
It's not a /pol/itically incorrect theory, it's the truth. There's nothing racist about it. Rome conquered huge swaths of land and neglected to realize that the non-romans they conquered were not interested in upholding roman glory or whatever, they just wanted gold.
>>1171886
Simple. The smart people of Greece stopped being uniquely smart and just started being smart. The Ancient Greeks are put on pedestals because they're unlike anyone else from that era that we know of. Some of that has to do with their love of writing, so we don't actually know if they were all that unique as thinkers in their world at the time, of course, but otherwise we have a lot of their thoughts passed down to us.
Now, there's nothing innate to a people whether they produce unique intellects. It just takes smart people who direct their intelligence in novel ways. And Ancient Greek society was one where its philosophers could be novel compared to their contemporaries (of which we know little admittedly) and their successors.
Now, these successors weren't any more or less intelligent than their predecessors. They just took their talents in a less unique direction, but no less important for their lives: bureaucracy. Whether it was under the Macedonians, the Romans, the Byzantines, or the Ottomans, the educated Greeks became state officials and priests whose job wasn't to be creative but to maintain a large government apparatus. This takes intelligence, but doesn't really promote creative thought.
I hope that in my lifetime I'll see an end to the Greeks are turks meme.
