Post underrated generals.
When talking about the Hundred Years War, everyone will spout shit about "muh longbow" and how the british somehow humiliated the french.
But look at this bastard, Bertrand du Guesclin. He managed to conquer back all of the lands lost to King Edward III by using guerilla tactics. This fat, ugly breton midget managed to save Paris at Cocherel, overthrow the government of Castille, and crush the british by avoiding large battles and instead using dirty tricks to besiege the castles.
There's a story, for exemple, about how he once disguised his soldiers as englishmen to take a castle in Normandy.
>>1168369
>how the british somehow humiliated the french.
Killing a third of your ruling class in a single battle where you have numerical superiority is fucking huniliating.
Dysentery is the only thing that kept the english from the French throne.
>>1168369
Underrated?
Wasn't he literally made Marshal of France?
I think you mean unknown to plebs.
>>1168379
>killing a third of the ruling class
To the average frenchman that was the best thing to happen in the war.
>>1168379
Well ruling was done by trained lawyers and bailiffs at this point and these guys typically avoided battlefields.
France also had like 60-90.000 gentry or noble families so 7000-10000 killed is nowhere near a third.
>do all the work
>the king gets the credit
>mfw
>>1168379
>implying a third of France's noblemen died in any battles of the HYW
>implying this isn't precisely what the King wanted, since this offed pesty and pompeous noblemen while he could still raise a huge levy of knights
>implying dysentery isn't part of France's military strategery, especially since for every battle there was ten sieges during the HYW, which means France could easily exhaust the brits thanks to their fortifications
>>1168369
>overthrow the government of Castille
Peter did that by himself. He made too many enemies and only had support in Galicia.
>>1168369
Yo that dude is totally black. Broad nose, big lips... fucking whitewashing strikes again.
>>1168369
So many Italian commanders who were amazing. However, the autists on 4chan neglect giving them their due respect because of this meme that italians cant into war. Example. Raimondo Montecuccoli. One of the best European commanders in history, and a Marshal of the Holy Roman Empire. Many of the Marshals were Italian by blood.
>>1170625
Another amazing ethnically Italian commander. Eugene of Savoy
>>1170627
Yet another. Ambrogio Spinola. Probably the most successful commander in the 30 years war was ethnically Italian.
>>1170627
Based. Any man who fought the Turks has my respect.
Song about him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg78Px9Uoic
>>1170642
another one. Ottavio Piccolomini
>>1170667
>>1170660
Then you would love this guy too. Alessandro dal Borro, a field marshal of the holy roman empire whose nome de guerre was literally "the terror of the turks" for the amount of them he killed
>>1170627
how is he underrated, though?
He was famous in his time and has a shining legacy.
>>1170686
i guess the point more than anything is that there is no shortage of amazing commanders who have come from the Italian peninsula and could be called Italian historically. In fact the case could be made there are a disproportionate many that came
>>1168369
Greatest general in history
>>1170703
lel
>Underrated
>Lets just post generals
This guy has gotten way too little credit internationally: Lettow-Vorbeck.
Literally the only undefeated German general in WW1, leading a gorilla war with a couple of dozen German officers and a few hundred African soldiers against the Brits.
>>1170802
what exactly did he do that made his campaigns so successful strategically, operationally, and tactically? I would be interested to know what he employed to have such a staggering victory
>>1168379
>be british
>btfo France
>somehow get btfo later
>btfo so hard you stop wanting continentals territory and never fight alone
>also enter a civil war right after
kek
But op, Du Guesclin actually was good in pitched battle, he won all the one where he was the commander
>>1170809
The English wiki is very informative. Basically he improvised his entire campaign with what he had. He understood that he couldn't lead a conventional war against the brits so he started doing hit and run attacks, trying to distract as many british forces as possible. He stood out because he valued his African soldiers pretty much as equals to Germans.
Even as late as the 60ies, the German government paid a pension to the African soldiers who could prove they fought under Lettow-Vorbeck.
>>1170809
>massively outnumbered
>no hope for reinforcements
>used Africans that were actually loyal because he was a good guy (nevermind his raging anti-semitism)
>kept his little army intact for the entire war against the British
>kept fighting even after the war was over since everyone forgot to tell him it was over
>hit and run guerilla tactics all day erry day
>streets were named after him in Germany for many decades after the war
Sorry I'm not too informative, I can't remember any specific strategies or standout victories of his at the moment.
>>1170809
He recognized, early on, the need for his army to engage in guerilla warfare. He knew when to fight, when to run and when to improvise. He spoke the language of his men and treated them all equally, though his Askaris were divorced from their tribal roots and had become "German" of sorts.
What's amazing is that for the last stretch of WW1, the Schutztruppe was nomadic, raiding settlements and bases for supplies and they never ran out of ammo.
>>1168379
>Killing a third of your ruling class in a single battle where you have numerical superiority is fucking huniliating.
Mud.
>>1168369
Looks like fetal alcohol syndrome.
>the british
>in any way involved in the HYW
I want this meme to die.
BEST FALL EVER !!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBijzkWokTQ
>>1168380
And he's buried at Saint Denis with the kings of France.
>>1168388
>"mon dieu Pierre, the Signeur has perished at Agincort!"
>"oh... no..."
>>1170625
>this meme that italians cant into war
thats more for modern wars though, also they lost a war with fucking ethiopia
Belisarius
>>1171356
There isnt a single day that goes by where people arent constantly obsessing over him. What made him sogreat anywy?
