Can someone explain to me the origins of English/Irish animosity? What led the English to oppress and the Irish to resist, for so long? The Scotts and Welsh nationalities succumbed quickly to the Crown, and both have more in common with the Gaelic people than the Anglos. Why did the Irish resist being British even as it benefited her neighbors so much more?
Celtic culture vs. Norman and Germanic culture.
Scotland and Wales are physically closer and were thus easier to subjugate.
Catholicism vs. Protestantism.
>>1165293
Well the first thing to remember - which nobody ever does - is that the first Anglo-Norman expedition was INVITED into Leinster to help the king there, and Strongbow was married into the king's family and promised the inheritance of the Kingdom of Leinster in return for his military aid.
Secondly, the 'oppression' as such did not really begin until the rise of Protestantism - for 1169 until the 1500s, Ireland was essentially an autonomous marcher province of the English kingdom.
Finally, things only really went downhill after the Act of Union of 1801 deprived the 'Kingdom of Ireland' of its own Parliament and House of Lords. Before that date, and for many years afterwards, it had been and remained an enthusiastic participant in the British empire. The part of Irish imperialists in the empire is slowly being recognised, as the part of Scottish and Welsh imperialists long have.
Tl:dr, the history of Anglo-Irish relations is far, far more complicated than usually thought, and the stereotype of the British oppression of the restive Irish is in many ways wrong-headed. Mistakes were made on both sides, and the Famine was deplorable. But episodes like that tended to be the exception not the rule - else an 800 year association would be very difficult to explain.
t. Irish
>>1166405
Irish Rebellion of 1798 happend before the Act of Union y'know
>>1165293
Ireland was held by the English long before they held Wales or Scotland, so you have it somewhat back to front.
>>1166445
Wolfe Tone and the 'United Irish' were a minority whose actions brought the hammer down on their countrymen.
>>1166797
Protestant Irish are still Irish, as are 'Anglo-Irish' families.
But there are numerous examples of Irish Catholics participating in colonisation under the aegis and in the name of the British Empire, willingly - for example, the island of Montserrat or closer to home, the GAELIC and CATHOLIC Earls of Antrim encouraged the plantations.
The sooner the lowest common denominator in the country stop denying the truth of our history, the better. The self-hatred comes from people like you, not people who have come to terms with the contradictions present in our own history. They are present in the histories of every other people and nation, colour and creed.
Scotland didn't succumb easily at all, in fact I wouldn't say they did succumb at all. Scotland is meant to be an equal partner in the union as England, which is why it's a part of the UK and not 'England'
to answer your question though the tl'dr is that they were catholics
>>1166856
>Highland clearances
>Lowland Scots are basically English.
Yeah sure, Scotland and it's people didn't suffer at all..
>>1166845
>Protestant Irish are still Irish
lmao
>>1166946
I'm going to assume you're a plastic paddy Yank? Up the RA and all that shite? That or an intellectually defective fellow countryman.
>>1166926
>Scottish landowners clearing people off of their land in Scotland
>Englands fault
Besides similar shit was happening all throughout the country at the time to varying degrees
