How does /his/ feel about the Celts?
>>1153712
They were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
>>1153712
The Celts are basically the Wojaks of Europe with Latins being Pepe and Germanics as Spurdo.
t. Meme historian
>>1153712
They were what the Aztecs were to Cortes
Gold laden bitches that Caesar thought needed a conquering
>>1153768
>Overrating the technology difference between the Romans and Celts
They were literally cucks who encouraged wife sharing.
>>1153712
I am angry.
I AM ANGRY ABOUT CELTS.
>>1153774
Oh not actually in that manner.
More like smart diplomacy and, battles and sieges to wring a bunch of gold out of other people.
>>1153775
You know the Celts had sacked Rome right?
>>1153775
You got it wrong the wives shared the husbands.
>>1153806
What does that have to do with the fact that they were into cuckoldry?
>>1153833
They cucked the Romans, baka.
>>1153837
Yes because cucking was an important part of their culture
>>1153846
Just like shitposting is yours.
>>1153712
Kelts or Selts?
I always say Kelts, but I've heard both are acceptable and that's fucking stupid
Since this seems like an issue that often appears in various threads, how related were the various Celts from an ethnic point of view?
I know that certain markers like Y-DNA R1b are linked to Celts but is there anything more in detail?
>>1153947
Slets is the basketball team the Boston Celtic's pronunciation. I'm not sure if it's a butchering of the other pronunciation or just what they made up but that's where it comes from.
>>1153947
Seltic/s if you're talking about Boston basketball or Glasgow football, Kelts if anything else
>>1154064
All Celts, as well as Italics are closely related, and too Germanics too a bit more distantly.
>>1153712
Gauls, I hate them. My grandfather hated them to.
>>1153947
Both are acceptable but I think the reason for pronouncing it with a K is pretty stupid
It was pronounced with an S when it first entered English like all other Latin words, but in the 19th century when Celtic revival took off some fags wanted to pronounce it was a K because 'that's how Caesar pronounced it'
>>1154930
> 'that's how Caesar pronounced it'
One time I unironically asked for "Kai-sar's salad" in Subway.
No regrets.
>>1154064
Basically everyone is descendes from the Yamnaya who moved into Europe around 3000 BC. Those who went north became Germanics, the Italics stayed in Hungary before moving to Italy around 1200 BC, everyone else became known as Celt.
>>1154930
>that's how Caesar pronounced it
proofs?
>>1155079
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin#Consonants
>>1155086
That's strange. As far as I know every latin derived language pronounces it "selts".
>>1155190
Your point?
>>1155200
no point, just pointing it out
>>1153833
Why is cuckoldry wrong?
I pronounced it selts for years.
>>1153712
WE HONGER FOR BLOD AN BATTEL
>>1153712
Retarded savage fucks who got slaughtered en mass by based Romans.
>>1155190
No, we Italians pronounce it CHELT.
>>1153833
It was 99.9% likely that that was Roman propaganda, Romans liked to think all non-Romans were sexual degenerates. The fact that Celtic cultures were more egalitarian when it came to womens rights probably led to Roman jokes about Gaulish women being promiscuous. I have a very hard time thinking a masculine warrior culture like the Gauls would have been 100% okay with wife sharing.
>>1154930
The term is Greek in origin and was "Keltoi," "Celtae" when Latinized. Latin "C" was always pronounced hard.
Gauls and the ones in Iberia were pretty cool.
Other than that I can only really say that their music (of at least modern music influenced by theirs) is pretty decent.
>>1153712
>Le undisciplined meme.
Pretty bad actually.
>>1153712
The gauls were an interesting bunch. They had a surprisingly developed culture and society, the only reason they are thought of as being primitive is that literacy was confined to a very select group of people.
>>1156807
>They had a surprisingly developed culture and society,
What?
No, not really.
>>1153712
>get naked
>paint self blue
>kill enemies
>take heads
>show them off at dinner parties
bretty cool guys/10
>>1156815
Go tell me how you think they conducted themselves.
I bet you think they were ruled by kings or """"""chieftains""""""""..
>>1156829
Tell me how they were "pretty advanced" for their time considering that all their neighbour culture were more advanced than them excluding the Germanic people.
>>1153738
So who is gondola?
Who just observes, does not interfere?
>>1153712
they're what happens when the football team get to create a society.
literally dudebros: the tribe
>>1156887
For starters: their weapons? Shit was copied by Romans and Greeks. Rome more so than the Greeks.
>>1156911
Schwyz
>>1153738
> implying the slavs arent the wojaks of europe
>>1156887
They were advanced at different things. They were better smiths and had the ability to make better swords than the Romans. Their society was based on cattle so they knew more about husbandry but also grew taller and stronger than Romans due to a high protein diet.
>>1154930
It's pronounced with a hard "C" is all Celtic languages dipshit
I think everybody in this thread rather than spouting meme opinions would benefit greatly from reading about Celtic culture and history. But since we know that's not gonna happen, play the europa barbarorum mod for rome total war, where history of greeks, romans and celts as well as other european civilizations is explained in great detail.
people need to stop assuming they know all the knowledge and actually pick up a book
>>1153712
Snownigger tier people's. Got fucked by Latins and anglo-Teutonics so hard that they have been bred into near non-existence. Scotland and Ireland as the last places where the majority of the population are Celtic and they are shit places.
>>1153712
Their religion was the most stupid among religions
Everyone except the Scots got Royally buttfucked by Germanics and French, and even then the Scots got it in the end.
>>1156659
This isn't true
Well, in this part of Europe, Burebista apparently beat some of them and integrated them into his confederation.
Gave them some land in Transilvania, which was good, since they started pottering, mining and metalworking stuff really well, influencing the dacians back as well.
Zamolxis seems to have taught their druids some tricks, as well, if Origen is to be believed.
Also, anatolian celts were AWESOME.
>>1156659
>CHELT.
Heh, i think it's a general romance language thing.
>>1157258
Brittany and Wales still speak their tongues to a point, I'd say Cornwall is just barely alive.
>>1157333
>and even then the Scots got it in the end.
How? Act of Union was a Scottish treaty and so was The Union of the Crowns
>>1156829
Caesar wrote himself that the Celts/Gauls had established road networks, trade routes, lived sedentary lifestyles and had permanent growing townships and settlements and specifically called them civilized. He then makes a double note about how Germanics were primitive warmongering barbarians who didn't even understand the concept of trading, bartering, or even diplomacy and wore rags for clothing.
Celts passed technologies like improved forging and chainmail to various cultures through trade, especially for the Greeks, Romans, and Persians.
>>1157333
Well, lowland Scotland had already been Germanicized for some time by that point.
Literally the goat ethnic group whose descendents still rule the world.
REMOVE CELT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghPppwB9MPA
>>1153712
Has anyone realized that so called "germanics" and "nordics" are nothing more than cold-headed celts?
>>1153712
History really screwed over the Celts, Ireland is the only independent Celtic country today.
Celts are just an anti-english meme now.
>>1157632
muh eternal anglo
>>1158134
>Ireland
>independent
Laughing Queen of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.jpg
>>1158195
>>1153712
Imagine a blonde or ginger Spartan whose really into wildlife, apart from the occasional one whose a wizard
>>1153738
>Implying Celts weren't Pepe and Rome wasn't Wojack. Germanics as Spurdo I can agree with.
>>1153833
They enjoyed cucking if that's what you mean
>>1153947
I say kelts, but I could be wrong
>>1156887
They were good at designing tools and finding various uses for animal fat. They invented soap and shaving gel. They also may have invented a few musical instruments.
Oh and they invented chainmail, which you have to admit came in quite handy.
>>1157326
Why do you think that anon, are you just a christfag who doesn't like polytheism?
>>1157618
Cornish has been extinct since the 18th century, a handful of enthusiasts have learned it as a hobby but it's a dead language.
The Celts had a fascinating culture, quite unlike that of the Germanics or Latins. They believed in reincarnation, not in this world but in the Otherworld, a kind of parallel dimension. So strong was this belief that they were even known to make loans that were to be repaid in the next life, and this certainty of personal survival after death made them fearless warriors. They were also famously superstitious, making sacrifices to their varied deities to ward off evil magic, and collecting the heads of their enemies since Celtic tradition had it that the soul resides in the head.
Their whole society was based around a culture of cattle-raiding, where each clan was effectively at war with all its neighbours, all the time, but they were also a culture of traders and craftsmen. To resolve this dilemma, they established "Oppidia", which were fortified sites, usually on hilltops, where no clan conflict was allowed and where traders could gather in safety. These were not quite cities because very few people actually lived there all the time, but they served the same role that cities filled in more civilised societies.
Also of note are the Druids, the priestly caste who preserved the theological and legal traditions of the Celts. They underwent a decades-long education which emphasised the memorisation and perfect reproduction of long tales and lore, since the Druids believed that holy matters should never be written down, but could only be maintained by an oral tradition. These priests held a position of great honor among the Celts, able to end wars and to pass judgement even upon kings. They travelled freely across the Celtic world, providing a strong unifying cultural force.
The Celts did use writing for other matters, using the Greek alphabet to write both in their own language and in Greek. This literacy was mostly confined to the southern parts, which had the longest contact with the Greeks via the great city-state of Massillia / Marseilles.
Like those guys, they are the creators of my hometown and lived there for 300 years untill the Romans came and fucked up everything. I can almost imagine the druids walking around my area. Great material culture and interesting religion, but don't like this neo-pagan stuff which feeds on them.
Weren't the Romans originally a Celtic tribe that mixed with the Etruscans?
>Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
>>1159426
Fuck off Emrys,
Romans are Italics
>>1156945
Why would they be? It's completely strange and irrational in my opinion to consider proto Slavic tribes as cucks considering the fact that they sacked Rome in 455.
>>1157258
>Scotland
>Leltic
No, they're really not, not at all.
Wales is the only place in the world with actual real Celtic people living there, Ireland, Scotland and Cornwall are just memes and crybabies that hold onto a dead culture of extinct people.
>>1158134
>Ireland is the only independent Celtic country today.
Isle of Man is not part of the UK, but relies on them for tonnes of shit. Not sure if that counts or not.
>>1158116
great pic
>>1159661
t. Allbyrtw Ap Byrhbwsa
>>1159661
Highland Scotland and the western coasts of Ireland are Celtic. Lowland Scotland and most of Ireland are Anglic.
>>1158087
Why is that?
>>1159651
all fucking celts must fucking hang
>>1159651
Cuck is easily the most retarded buzzword ever conceived in 4chan
>>1159651
>cuck
Hey look, a buzzword.
Brits, frogs, western germans, northern italians and spaniards and the dutch are all pretty much ethnic celts. Celts are probably the most important ethnic group in human history.
>>1153712
They had warrior women.
I always found that fascinating.
But then again, they relied more on passion and honour than strategy and tactics.
Not discounting the fact that these women were killer of men, but overall, more passionate than logical.
>>1160218
That's hardly how its used most of the time here, though.
>>1160218
Spartans shared their wives, and they were arguably one of the most vicious fighting forces of the ancient world.
Not saying that I support wife sharing, but it's not that big of a deal within an ancient civilisation.
Why should I care what other people who are not me, do with their spouse?
>>1160223
WE WUZ EMPIRES AND SHEIT
>>1160410
WE ARE EMPIRE AND SHIET ftfy
>>1158271
>Imagine a blonde or ginger Spartan whose really into wildlife, apart from the occasional one whose a wizard
They have LITERALLY nothing in common with the spartans.
>>1158205
Shouldn't that be a laughing Merkel?
>>1160496
This. The Celts were very big on showing off their wealth and boasting about their prowess, they ate rich food and especially meat, and appalled the Greeks and Romans by drinking their wine undiluted. Apart from being a race of warriors, there's really no similarities between them and Sparta.
>>1161071
Spartans were not even warriors, they were soldiers.
>>1161242
Well quite. The Celtic way of war relied on single combat between champions, much like the ancient Greeks before the invention of the Hoplite. Most actual fighting would have happened during cattle raids, and the average Celt was brave (and often drunk) rather than especially skilled. When the Romans fought them, they made fairly short work of their ill-disciplined mobs, despite the technological superiority of Celtic weapons and armor.
>>1157840
>how Germanics were primitive warmongering barbarians who didn't even understand the concept of trading, bartering, or even diplomacy and wore rags for clothing
But considering that de bello gallico was pretty muchs just "Why invading Gaul was a good idea by Caesar, Age 42" that was probably not the case and just an attempt to portray the gauls as a civilization worth conquering.
>>1161295
The material evidence is there to support Caesar's claims, tho. Germanics of the times were considerably more primitive than Celts, and the fabulous wealth so many of his followers accrued from the conquest and looting of Gallia is proof positive that it was "worth conquering".
>>1160496
I was meaning the basic spartan visual stereotype, like the general perception, not the subtleties of politics and culture.
I said that because a lot of people seem to think they were vikings with blue face paint, which they weren't (though there was that one film where the picts looked like native americans for some reason). They were more like the ancient greeks as >>1161268 put.
>>1161394
cuck off cookoo
>>1158401
actually they sound a lot like what would happen if you put Zulus and Nahua together.
>>1161513
>Zulus
Beyond the shared cattle culture I don't see much relationship. If anything the Celts were more like various Kenyan and East African peoples who lived in semi-nomadic pastoral societies, although ofc the Celts were a settled people who practised agriculture alongside pastoralism.
>Nahua
Both had very powerful priesthoods and a tradition of constant low-level warfare, but the Celts were never ones for cities and while headhunting was certainly practised to some degree, it was never the focus of warfare or raiding like the Flower Wars were for the Mexicans.
If I were to pick two other peoples to combine to approximate the Celts, I'd pick the Indo-Aryans and the Myceneans.
>>1161320
Sure the Germanics were "more primitive" but not "not understanding the concept of trading, bartering, or even diplomacy and wearing rags for clothing" primitive
>>1159651
Like more than half of Europe and the the near east depicted most of their warriors/heroes/gods with horns
>>1161295
Every Roman knew why the Gauls were worth conquering, the Gauls invaded the Roman Republic in the late 4th century BC, sacked Rome itself, and made the republic pay humiliating tribute. Even by Caesar's time Gaulish raiders frequently pillaged northern Italy. Caesar was making a preemptive strike to put an end to the Gaulish threat.
>>1161639
So? Doesn't change the fact that the book was propaganda and a justification of his actions
>>1161634
No.
>>1159651
You know antlars aren't grown by stags out of shame for being cuckolded, they grow them to intimidate other stags so that they can cuck them.
Cernunnos is basically the celtic name for Pan. And seeing a the god is often depicted with torcs hanging from his antlars, presumably taken from people he's beaten, I think its pretty clear it would be him doing the cucking.
>>1162895
Except he's not a stag, he's a horned dude. AKA a cuck.
>>1165966
The horns = cuckold meme had to come somewhere, it exists all over Europe from Spain to Russia.
Alot of you romaboos and tards. How the fuck does horns = the most overrused and missused word on 4chan? kek
>>1167735
>being this ignorant
pic related: it's you
>>1167747
Care to elaborate what I am missing then?
Appoiting random people for being cucks with little to no reason. What does that make youuuu?
>tfw you will never be a Celtic warrior bellowing your war cry in the battlefield as you behead Romans whilst completely nude
>>1153775
> being insecure and selfish is a virtue
> hands off muh waifu or ill shoot ur dik off
marriage is a spook, my property
>>1153775
> sharing his bitches with his friends
What a bros they were.
>>1156628
because if his women aren't his property he'll cry
>>1154921
>Africa still in the Chalcolithic age
>>1153775
>>1169160
>Having wives
Only life I find admirable is the one where a man goes where he wants, does what he wants, until he dies. A great man with great desires. There's a reason why marriage is called settling down. You exchange your opportunities and enjoyment to build other human beings to continue the hellish human experience.
If I was a warrior, and expected to die in battle. I'd be passing women around to my fellow battle brothers. But then again, we'd probably all be raping a village. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it shouldn't apply to a warrior, in fact, it would be wise for a warrior to have no wife. If a man has ambition to start a family at any point, they would never join a warband or would desert.
Too many dickriders
