Educate me about the Republic of Novgorod.
Was it really democratic?
>>1150904
>Was it really democratic?
Yes.
Not democratic in the modern sense, but way more than medieval monarchies.
Also it was unreally literate for its time, the estimate is around 70 to 80%, including peasants. A rate like that was unheard of outside of monasteries during the middle ages.
>>1150909
interesting if true
shame it didn't survive as a political entity
>>1151200
it was too early for that
also, they were pretty small
>>1151200
Because renaissance was an Italian meme and not something that was inevitable by the virtue of having education and wealth. Stop thinking like a Marxist.
>>1151200
>Renaissance
>a thing
>more than simply a few extra paintings and sculptures
Historians just needed a name for the increase in art, because historians really care about art since that is the only thing really left for them to actually see. That doesn't necessarily mean the renaissance was significant to the rest of history.
>>1150904
Novgorod was actually Finnish
They used the Finnish language
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birch_bark_letter_no._292
>>1151435
That is John Green level bullshit
>>1151650
Nope, Novgorod was multikulti if anything, there were both Slavic and Finnic peoples living in there. Most of the Novgorodian manuscripts are in Old Novgorodian language.
>>1151665
>implying anon is wrong
Any era that produces more art is of big interest to historians. That doesn't necessarily mean it was some pivotal point in human history.
>>1151518
I think it actually did IIRC
Novgorod's zenith is seen as something of a golden age for medieval Russian culture
>>1151650
>>1150909
Byzantine empire was also probably 50% or more literate.
>>1151650
i love how desperate Finnish nationalists are to make their people seem to be historically relevant
>>1152608
Which period? At its height 70% of the empire was literally middle eastern goatfuckistan.
>>1152635
Can you honestly say you wouldn't do the same in that position?
>>1152802
Not to that degree no. There are WEWUZ people everywhere nowadays but this is beyond dumb
>>1152648
And a good chunk of the rest was Balkanic Goatfuckislavia. And some hermits here and there
>>1150909
Meanwhile in moscow...
>>1152880
>>1152931
>>1152880
well, they did unite russia
thats something
>>1152957
awful*
That's what you meant right?
>>1152961
i mean, its awful that the city was destroyed, but without conquering novgorod, russia would have probably never become relevant
>>1150904
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Novgorod
Too bad polacks didn't save it
>>1152971
>russia would have probably never become relevant
And that is... bad?
>>1152971
Russia is a shit stain on the world map that should not be there.
>>1151200
Might have something to do with Byzantines seeking refuge in Italy, not in the far north of Russia.
>>1150904
it was an okay place to be but it had to die soon as i decided to play as Muscovy
>>1152971
Better to be irrelevant than to be a shithole.
>>1151435
>>1151677
>Implying new ideas and increased learnimg didn't go along with the art
Wew
>>1152982
of course
after all, muscovites united all russian people under one flag
>>1153987
>not playing Novgorod
>not conquering Muscovy and forming Russia
>not RPing as a heavily religious Russian Republic under the influence of the Orthodox Church
wew lad
>>1154778
>muscovy
>Principality of rus
>>1154782
>play as novgorod
>rivaled by muscovy, denmark and lithuania
>poland chooses not to PU Lithuania
>get declared war by muscovy 5 months into the game
wew, that went well
>>1154797
>Kievan Rus'
>The state full of vikings, Turkish Jews, Ukrainians, and Belorussians
>Unitinf Russians
>>1152608
Maybe Konstantinopolis. Everyone that reads a bit of history knows that rest of the realm was poor as fuck, especially Anatolia. Also considering the lack of investment and being poor, it doesn't come as a surprise them welcoming Turks with open arms.
>>1151435
You're retarded.
>>1155472
We know you are, but what does that make him?
>>1153987
I always keep Tver as a pet.
It's so cute
>>1153987
>not playing with the God-tier MEIOU mod
shyghivici dighiv
