I posted this on /pol/ initially
I used to be an atheist. After I became redpilled, I became Catholic. I love the history of Catholicism. The doctrines make sense in a biblical and historical context. I would get fed up with the popes cuckoldry and go experiment with secular philosophy and once even some /fringe/ stuff, but I always come back to Catholicism because it has the most answers, it feels safe, and it is well established. Now, I am getting to a point where I am doubting again. The Church is getting weak, the pope is getting cuckier, and even my own Church's leaders are getting more liberal. My priest will just say stuff like "just keep doing what your doing" for my penance, after I tell him my sins. Catholics don't have an identity anymore, many people in the Church don't think twice about the Church before engaging in degeneracy. I have been instructed by my priest not to look towards secular philosophers, he said a lot of that stuff was "poison", but I need some sort of guidance. I cannot go to protestantism, I just don't believe in protestantism, nor orthodoxy. I look at so many intelligent figures, like leaders of the third Reich, and many of them were not religious, though they realized the good of organized religion. Still, I find it hard to leave the Church, half because when I read Catholic books like The Lord of the Rings and look into the history of Europe, I feel as though I would be leaving that all behind by leaving the institution that made it all possible. The other half is that, even though I may not have full faith anymore, I still fear Hell, and if Catholicism is true, I don't want to abandon Jesus Christ, I don't want to abandon God. What is /his/'s opinion on this?
>>1135818
>I'm LARPing as a Catholic
Reminder that Pope Francis did nothing wrong
>>1135818
>I used to be an atheist. After I became redpilled, I became Catholic
how does that happen exactly? did you find some miracilous proof of god that no one sees?
>I have been instructed by my priest not to look towards secular philosophers, he said a lot of that stuff was "poison",
What kind of awful Priest would tell you that.
>The Church is getting weak, the pope is getting cuckier,
There is literally nothing Pope Francis has said that isn't in line with Catholic Dogma.
This is a big ruse, right OP?
>after I became redpilled
Do you not see how obvious this sounds?
>>1135875
Sadly it isn't. As I said, I wrote this on /pol/ first.
>>1135818
Maybe you should eat shit.
>>1135869
How is this a parody? Explain.
>>1135818
>I cannot go to protestantism
>>1135889
I have tried protestantism. It leaves me feeling empty, and the Catholic Church just seems more credible in my opinion. I still have respect for many protestants, and I understand its origins.
>>1135906
>respecting protestants
You are no Catholic.
>>1135888
It's a parody of /pol/ Catholics, who are to Christianity was National of Islam is to Islam
You can tell it's a parody because no Catholic priest is going to tell someone to stop reading secular philosophy, the RCC has been absolutely entranced with secular philosophy since the Middle Ages, especially Aristotle.
>>1135921
Have you noticed how many 4chan "Catholics" are in fact sedevacantists, which are de facto protestants?
Furthermore most of them resemble W40k LARPers more than they do actual Christians, they know more about fucking Crusades than about the Bible.
>>1135921
>It's a parody of /pol/ Catholics, who are to Christianity was National of Islam is to Islam
You mean an idiot who's jerking off to the crusades?
>RCC
Just say Catholic. It's easier for everyone.
>>1135921
This isn't a parody senpai. Seriously, I want some guidance. My priest literally told me that the stuff I was reading was "poisonous" when I told him I read "The Art of living" and was also reading Nietzsche and Marcus Aurellius. I know about the history of the Church with philosophy but you would be suprised at the ignorance of many of the clergy.
>>1135939
Read some St. Augustine
>>1135939
>Seriously, I want some guidance.
Then go read Thomas Aquinas, stop going on /pol/, join in on the massvie fist fight that's called the protestant-Catholic fight.
>>1135888
OP is basically saying that he's been a Catholic for ~18 months and is pretty sure that all these lifelong professional Catholics are doing their Catholicking all wrong. He was expecting more sick burns on fags and degenerates and less love and forgiveness etc (as if based Jesus had any time for that shit).
Putting it like that, how is it NOT a parody?
>>1135939
What I want to know is, if I leave Catholicism, I will be leaving Christianity. Is this a good idea or no? Does /his/ believe the Catholic Church to be legitimate or no?
I really want to fap right now as well. It is hard to be in a religion where fapping can send you to hell.
>>1135950
>Does /his/ believe the Catholic Church to be legitimate or no?
It's the only legitimate Church.
>>1135951
You know, having redditors making a colony on /pol/ was a huge mistake and now you got a good portion of /pol/ who just wants to have a conversation about religion pushed out by faggot redditors.
SSPX is the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSfRcc-e5SY
>>1135967
>SSPX
>a fucking p r o t e s t a n t worshiping a pope
>>1135950
Are you sure you even have faith?
>>1135967
>literal larpers
If I wanted to go with schismatic larpers I would go to the Orthodox but to me, if Christianity is true, the Catholic church would be the only true Church.
>>1135974
No, I guess not. I may have faith, I may not. I just don't want to go to hell. But I also want to be able to at least fap once and a while
>>1135982
Then fap you faggot.
>>1135990
But fapping is a mortal sin and I still don't know whether or not to believe in Catholicism.
>>1135996
So? You'll still be forgiven.
>>1136002
That doesn't make sense. If I know it is wrong in the Church but still do it that would be a mortal sin and if I don't go to confession I will go to hell according to the Church, so i need to know whether or not catholicism true.
>>1136013
It's the True Church, go fucking ask your priest to be forgiven anon I'm not a fucking priest are you trying to piss people off?
>>1135818
First of all about the Pope:
Pope says gay marriage is from satan
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pope-francis-same-sex-marriage-move-father-lies-total-rejection-gods-law
Pope Francis speaks against Gay adoption
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2013/12/pope-francis-shocked-by-gay-adoption-urges-bishop-to-speak-against-it-boldly/
Compares trans rights to nuclear arms race
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/pope-francis-compares-arguments-for-transgender-rights-to-nuclear-arms-race-10061223.html
Pope Francis says that there's no salvation outside the Church
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2013/06/03/pope-francis-is-under-attack-for-saying-that-outside-the-church-there-is-no-salvation-its-a-poke-in-the-eye-says-one-presbyterian-why-hes-wrong/
He excommunicates an Australian priest supporting gay marriage and women clergy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/24/pope-francis-excommunicates-priest-greg-reynolds_n_3983059.html
Pope Francis is against gender theory and for traditional gender roles
http://ncronline.org/blogs/francis-chronicles/pope-francis-gender-theory-problem-not-solution
Pope is against abortion
http://www.lifenews.com/2015/09/23/pope-francis-on-abortions-innocent-victims-its-wrong-to-look-the-other-way-or-remain-silent/
He Encourages the use of force against ISIS
http://www.businessinsider.com/pope-francis-endorses-use-of-force-against-isis-in-iraq-2014-8
Pope Francis is against lukewarm "faith"
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-off-the-cuff-to-priests-religious-indifference-makes-god-vomit-69700/
The Pope is misquoted often
http://www.christianpost.com/buzzvine/7-times-pope-francis-was-misquoted-132679/
The Pope Rebukes Communist Cross
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/bolivia/11729834/Pope-rebukes-Bolivias-President-Evo-Morales-for-gift-of-crucifix-mounted-on-hammer-and-sickle.html
>>1135818
>>1135939
You should read "introduction to Christianity" by Joseph Ratzinger (a.k.a. Pope Benedict XVI), an amazing book. It is of the hightest theological degree, and if you are looking for "intellectual" answers to the faith you'll find plenty there
>>1135964
.I have never once posted on reddit. I've been on 4chan since 2007. Nice try, faggot.
>>1136085
No you idiot, I'm talking about the faggot redditors that are making camp on /pol/ because of the elections right now.
>>1135933
>being sedevacantist
>being ''Catholic''
Is it my fault if the antipope says that ''God cannot do all things''?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWsgxCVYtAI
>>1136209
>actually worshiping a dead pope
Eat shit cultist.
>>1135906
>I have tried protestantism. It leaves me feeling empty
>I still have respect for many protestants, and I understand its origins
Crawl back to /pol/ you pseudo-Catholic pseudo-Christian.
>>1134341
>>1134346
>>1134348
>>1134350
http://www.protestanterrors.com/
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/salvation.html
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/justification.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd66KXIbAjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL2Hyve-kwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_4RFoknrwc
>>1136217
>popes are worshipped
hurr
>>1135912
Except that Roman Church was never able to prove any of the reformers wrong by use of scripture.
Except the Roman Church kept God's word away from people.
Dogma based on nothing from the Bible, Papal Authority, nothing from the Bible. Every dark stain on Christianity is from the Roman Church.
>let pagans join
>let them keep their heretical practices
>idolatry
>prays to mary and saints
>asks priests to pardon their sins
>confesses to priests, and not to God
>directly against God law and what Jesus said
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
Have fun with your pagan mish mosh that violates Gods Law.
>>1136242
>Except that Roman Church was never able to prove any of the reformers wrong by use of scripture.
See >>1136220
IT'S TIME TO STOP
>What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
>But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.
James 2:14-26
>>1136098
Meh, even if this is true you're not going to be able to go back to the old days where /pol/ was the christian board or whatever.
>>1136250
>be le Pope
>If you give us GOLD you will get into Heaven
This is coming from the "infallible church", you know, the one that fucked up so bad and now everyone hates Christianity because of it.
All that's needed.
>>1136242
>confession is not in the Bible
IT'S TIME TO STOP
>Therefore, confess your sins to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.
James 5:16
>Anyone whom you forgive, I also forgive. Indeed, what I have forgiven, if I have forgiven anything, has been for your sake in the presence of Christ.
2 Corinthians 2:10
>Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I am sending you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.
John 20:21-23
>>1136250
You also break the commandments so I don't care.
>>1136242
Have fun pretending that your particular interpretation of an inherently subjective belief system is the correct one.
Seriously now, christards are at their dumbest when they're flinging shit at each other.
>>1136275
>breaks commandments
Protestants are HERETICS
>>1136272
So then ignore the fuckers that want to discuss religion then.
>>1136282
>>1136277
>>1136280
>>1136281
>>1136275
As the head of the Roman Catholic Church, the pope is often called the “Holy Father” and the “Vicar of Christ”—names and roles that only apply to God. He claims the ability to speak ex cathedra, exercising Godlike infallibility to add to and augment Scripture (Revelation 22:18). He wields unbiblical, unholy authority over his followers, usurping the headship of Christ and perverting the work of the Holy Spirit.
>It's a LARP thread
Eh, if you can't beat em join em
BRAISE JEEBUS
>>1136301
>the projector with the hard on for babylon
>>1136308
No?
>>1136311
*tips fedora*
>>1136300
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
>whosoever believeth
Matthew 16:25
Whosoever wishes to save his life shall lose it, but whosoever loses their life for my sake shall find it.
Matthew 7:2 For with what judgment ye judge , ye shall be judged : and with what measure ye mete , it shall be measured to you again .
>>1136301
Did you copy and paste this from gotquestions.org you silly proddy?
>names and roles that only apply to God
Only God is holy by His very essence; however, by a person, place, or thing’s association with God, it too can be called holy. To be called holy is to express the idea of consecration, that someone or something belongs to God. That is why the Bible can call many persons, places, and things holy.
In Genesis 28:16, the place God appears is "holy." In Exodus 19:6, God tells the Israelites through Moses, "and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation." God’s dwelling place in the Tabernacle is "holy" (Ex 28:43), as is the city of Jerusalem (Is 48:2). Even a goat, the victim of sacrifice to God, is called "holy" in Leviticus 10:17.
After Christ’s death and resurrection the Christians called themselves and each other "holy ones" or "saints," called by God to be his (Rom 1:7). In 1 Peter 1:16 we read, "it is written, ‘You shall be holy, for I am holy.’"
Since we are His holy people, and His people are the Church, it is fitting that the head of His holy people be called Holy Father—not because of his own merit, but because Christ died for him and for the Church that he leads on earth.
>>1136308
Buzz off kiddo.
>>1136318
How is telling the faggot that this isn't a larping thread related to a fedora you piece of shit?
>>1136309
Says Revelation 22:18
>>1136329
The Holy Father and Vicar of Christ, learn to read, or if you did read, learn to not strawman.
Keep breaking those commandments though.
>>1136335
*tips fedora*
I'm sure you feel enlightened
>>1136350
>said the literal fedoralord shitposting
>>1136338
Don't think so.
It's time you actually read your Bible. There is a reason both Orthodox and Protestants despise the Catholic Church.
>GIVE US YOUR GOLD AND YOU WILL GET INTO HEAVEN
>IDOLS
>PRAYING TO ANYONE BUT JESUS
How do you like those pagan rituals though? You know, those things which aren't in the BIBLE.
>>1136348
This is you right?
https://desustorage.org/his/thread/1096484/#1098039
>Assurance of eternal salvation, yes. I sleep like a baby.
Reminder:
>And so, my dear friends, just as you have always obeyed, not only when I was with you but even more now that I am absent, continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling.
Philippians 2:12
See >>1136220 and stop shitposting.
>>1136365
weak bait, also, the "Orthodox" hate you proddies more than us Catholics, they know very well that your denominations are not even worth a piece of turd, and when they criticize us it's merely out of jealousy because they aren't actually the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
>>1135818
why fear hell nigger yo broke ass livin in dat shit
>>1136367
>I sleep like a baby
top heresy
>>1136382
Tell me where in the Bible it says to pray to Mary.
Tell me where it talks about the Mass.
Tell me where it says it is okay to have idols.
I'll wait.
>>1136293
What? The people who come here to preach prevent any and all fair handed conversation of any given religion.
>>1136301
Yes yes, your version of spiderman can beat up the other guys version, you're so special for believing in your version of him.
>>1136437
Luke 1:48 - Mary prophesies that all generations shall call her blessed, as Catholics do in the "Hail Mary" prayer. What Protestant churches have existed in all generations (none), and how many of them call Mary blessed with special prayers and devotions?
Gal. 4:4 - God sent His Son, born of a woman, to redeem us. Mary is the woman with the redeemer. By calling Mary co-redemptrix, we are simply calling Mary "the woman with the redeemer." This is because "co" is from the Latin word "cum" which means "with." Therefore, "co-redemptrix" means "woman with the redeemer." Mary had a unique but subordinate role to Jesus in salvation.
Eph. 1:1; Phil. 1:1; Col. 1:2 - the word "saints" (in Hebrew "qaddiysh") means "holy" ones. So Mary is called Holy, the greatest Saint of all.
Luke 2:35 - Simeon prophesies that a sword would also pierce Mary's soul. Mary thus plays a very important role in our redemption. While Jesus' suffering was all that we needed for redemption, God desired Mary to participate on a subordinate level in her Son's suffering, just as he allows us to participate through our own sufferings.
Luke 2:19,51 - Mary kept in mind all these things as she pondered them in her heart. Catholics remember this by devoting themselves to Mary's Immaculate Heart and all the treasures and wisdom and knowledge contained therein.
>>1136446
>The people who come here to preach prevent any and all fair handed conversation of any given religion.
Then fight, you fucking pansy.
>>1136454
When you do that they flood the thread with copypasta. We have here a dedicated group of shitposters that the mods won't do shit about.
>>1136458
Then maybe you should keep your whore mouth shut until you think of something better.
>>1136437
Tell me where in the bible it says I need to show everything in the bible?
"Profitable" doesn't cut it
>>1136437
>Mass
Read: http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/the-mass-is-profoundly-biblical
>>1136437
>idols
Stale meme.
>>1136446
That's a retarded picture tbqh
Nobody wrote spiderman intending it to be anything more than a fictional story
The bible is a collection of books. Some poetry, some a saga, some biographies, law books, etc.
>>1136490
this
>>1136490
>Nobody wrote spiderman intending it to be anything more than a fictional story
so if they did intend something else it would become real?
>>1136505
He's saying that it's not meant to be treated like a history book you dipshit.
>>1136490
It's not a perfect comparison and it isn't intended to be. The point of my post is that this sort of infighting is both stupid and never going to convince either the participants or outsiders such as myself of anything.
>>1136501
Oh look, the bible got copied a bunch when the roman government was taken over by christians, how surprising.
>>1136474
What is the something better exactly? Spammers need banning. That's the only solution to people who endlessly copypaste stuff into threads when people disagree with them.
>>1136524
So posting fucking proof is bad? You asked for proof and you got it. You know what the definition of insanity is? It's to do the same thing and expecting to see a different result.
>>1136539
The bible isn't the Qu'ran you dolt.
>>1136507
who gives a shit about what it was meant to be? if spiderman was wrote the same way as the bible was then it wouldnt become real
>>1136539
>That's not the Bible.
It is.
http://www.companionscross.org/sites/default/files/The%20Mass%20in%20Scripture.pdf
>None of those say to pray to Mary
Bait?
>>1136549
Keep pretending to be retarded.
>>1136537
What proof is there of any thing in this thread or any other? All I see is endless copypaste spam of nonsense and bible quotes. There isn't any proof of the supernatural claims in the bible and odds are there never will be. The only thing that these threads do is cause lots of shitposting and trolling.
This is why preaching needs to be a bannable offense.
>>1136563
keep avoiding the question
>>1136563
The christians on this board don't need to pretend for the most part.
>>1136564
>All I see is endless copypaste spam of nonsense and bible quotes. There isn't any proof of the supernatural claims in the bible and odds are there never will be. The only thing that these threads do is cause lots of shitposting and trolling.
What country you from?
>>1136562
>http://www.companionscross.org/sites/default/files/The%20Mass%20in%20Scripture.pdf
LMFAO
None of that says to symbolically ingest the flesh and blood of Christ.
That was a ONE TIME deal the Jesus fulfilled. To do it over and over again is heresy.
>>1136562
They don't.
Literally post the verse where it says to pary to Mary.
>>1136564
Not him but the Word became flesh.
What don't you understand?
>There isn't any proof of the supernatural claims in the bible
See this thread >>1130099
>>1136586
>To do it over and over again is heresy
[citation needed]
>>1136616
What state?
>>1136595
The writer of Hebrews is inescapably clear about the singular nature of Christ’s sacrifice.
For Christ did not enter a holy place made with hands, a mere copy of the true one, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; nor was it that He would offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the holy place year by year with blood that is not his own. Otherwise, He would have needed to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now once at the consummation of the ages He has been manifested to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment, so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him. (Hebrews 9:24-28, emphasis added)
Scripture does not waver on the finality of Christ’s sacrifice on our behalf. He came to make a one-time offering for sin, never to be repeated. It was a contrast to the Mosaic covenant, which necessitated a system of near-constant sacrifices. But none of the Old Testament sacrifices could actually atone for sin. They could only serve as a reminder of God’s deliverance and foreshadow Christ’s final sacrifice which would conquer sin.
In the practice of the mass, the Roman Catholic Church has reinstituted an unbiblical system of repeated sacrifices, blaspheming Christ and perverting His work on the cross.
>>1136623
New York state.
Why are you asking me this?
>>1136616
>there's no proof!!! no proof!!!!
That won't change reality friendo.
The Word became flesh.
Deal with it.
>>1136630
>>keeps posting nonsensical text even though nobody is being convinced by it who doesn't already believe in his religion
Why do you even come here? Nobody agrees with you and nobody likes you.
>>1136629
So we can find you and rape you cunt
>>1136629
>New York
What a fucking pinko, why should I listen to you?
>>1136650
>You're likely some imbecilic retard from the third world for all we know.
And you sound like a posh cunt from NYC.
>>1136636
>This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out by God.
John 3:19-21
>There is a judge for the one who rejects me and does not accept my words; the very words I have spoken will condemn them at the last day. For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.
John 12:48-49
Is eternal damnation worth it? Keep rejecting Him and He will reject you. Don't wait until you're on your deathbed to stop being rebellious.
>You do not know what tomorrow will bring. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes.
James 4:14
>>1136660
The only thing you have done here is to convince me that I want absolutely nothing to do with a religion that has people like you in it. I'm not giving up one single thing in the only life I know I have for certain for the sake of your fairy tell.
Take your ancient superstitions and shove them up your fat ass you faggot.
>>1136640
The Bible is the only container of facts when it comes to Gods Word.
Not your garbage dogma.
I used the Bible to verify what I have said. Not dogma to verify something that IS NOT in the Bible.
Have fun being deceived by Satan. I'll pray for you.
>>1136654
That's funny because I don't live in NYC and I'm hardly "posh".
>>1136688
Then what city you live, boy?
>>1136680
>I'm not giving up one single thing
Yikes.
>For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools.
Romans 1:19-22
>And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
Romans 1:28-32
>>1136683
Pray for your own soul instead of ''sleeping like a baby'' you deluded heretic.
>>1136680
He was very kind to you and then you responded with grotesque insults that would come out of the mouth of a 15 year old.
>>1136680
>fairy tell
>>1136700
Matthew 5:22 - But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Revelation 22:18
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Show me my error.
>>1136700
>>more bible quotes.
>>he still thinks this is going to convince anybody after being told repeatedly why it won't.
I want people to remember this fucker when they rant about fedoras. Christards are just as obnoxious and just as irritating.
>>1136695
Not telling you that, I've given out way too much personal information in this thread already.
>>1136733
Would you take bible quotes over someone insulting you?
>>1136069
based ratzinger. will there ever be another?
>>1136721
>Matthew 5:22 - But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
I am not angry at you, I simply find your shitposting and biblical illiteracy pathetic.
>For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book
I'm not the demonic muslim writer of the false "Gospel of Barnabas".
>And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy
Have I done this? What does Revelation have to do with anything?
You can neither post passages from the Holy Bible correctly nor do you seem to understand them. How old are you? This is a very serious question.
>>1136733
>disregarding profound words of Wisdom because of where they are written and when they were written
wew lad
>>1136747
>It's a Jesus eye close up episode
>>1136747
The Catholic Church has.
Again, show me my error.
>>1136733
>saying "b-but that's from the Bible" is my counter-argument! OKAY?!
Cringe.
>All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
>>1136757
>The Catholic Church has.
Has what?
>show me my error
http://www.protestanterrors.com/ >>1136220
>>1136739
>oh no he insulted me
i would take the shorter option, why would i give a shit wich it is?
>>1136764
>The religion he preaches is the exact opposite of kindness by the definition of any sane human being.
>getting upset over war and trying to defend faith
Get over yourself, you fucking nerd.
>>1136772
Because you keep responding.
>>1136758
>Cringe
so can i start googling quaran qoutes to prove you wrong now?
>>1136764
>The religion he preaches is the exact opposite of kindness by the definition of any sane human being.
“They (the Christians) were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verses a hymn to Christ, as to a god, and bound themselves by a solemn oath, not to any wicked deeds, but never to commit any fraud, theft or adultery, never to falsify their word, nor deny a trust when they should be called upon to deliver it up; after which it was their custom to separate, and then reassemble to partake of food--but food of an ordinary and innocent kind.”
Pliny, Letters, transl. by William Melmoth, rev. by W.M.L. Hutchinson (Cambridge: Harvard Univ. Press, 1935), vol. II, X:96, cited in Habermas, The Historical Jesus, 199.
>>1136775
so when faced with arguments you just shut down and paste bible qoutes until everyone stops giving a shit?
>>1136773
Hey guess what? History and Humanities discussion actually isn't code for "all christards please come here to preach 24/7".
If you want actual discussion of various religions, the preachers need to leave.
>>1136778
Muhammad was actually visited by a false angel of light, it was a demon, a fallen angel of deception. Satan and his workers are great mimickers and Muhammad, deceived, established a demonic cult of Allah (false-God) called Islam (meaning voluntary submission to this false-God, i.e. Satan) which he spread by the sword convinced that it was the last revelation of God Almighty.
Islam is none other than Satan's magnum opus, which now has 1.6 billion adherents (23% of the world population) and which will probably be followed by half of the world population by 2050.
>For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
2 Corinthians 11:13-15
>>1136778
>>1136790
Muhammad was a gluttonous wealthy slave owner, an adulterer, a child-molesting pedophile, a murderer, a liar, he encouraged theft, rape, torture and the list goes on. He was the pawn of Satan and is now in Hell.
Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
>Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.
Matthew 7:15-20
>>1136779
>>A classical historian said something nice about early christians so therefore christianity is a nice religion.
I don't think so pal.
>>1136767
Refer back to revelations.
I didn't write that. Show me my error in what I have posted.
Also, a question for you.
If the Roman Catholic church gave the world the Bible, being infallible, then why did Rome reject or question the inspiration of James and Hebrews, then later accept it? Conversely, Rome accepted as scripture books that were later rejected. If the Catholic church really is illuminated by the Holy Spirit so that men can trust her as "God's organization", why was she so wrong about something so simple? Should not the "Holy See" have known?
>>1136785
The anon you're replying to isn't me.
>>1136795
No. Ban the fucking preachers. Why in the fuck should some large swathe of /pol/s current posters be banned for discussion politics on the fucking politics board?
>>1136790
yeah yeah yeah islam is a scam by the devil, what else could it be, im sure a muslim couldnt say literally the same thing about you right?
>>1136797
>christianity is a nice religion
Correct and the civilization/culture you're leeching off is Christian.
>>1136810
>Why in the fuck should some large swathe of /pol/s current posters be banned for discussion politics on the fucking politics board?
Because the fuckers are cancerious louts that shitpost about Trump 24/7, have barely any fucking "political" discussion and when someone posts a fucking religion thread it gets killed by shitposting. Sorry people wanna have a fucking discussion about God you pinko.
>>1135818
I always find it hard to believe that real people make posts like this completely unironically.
>>1136817
>>correct
lol no.
>>and the civilization/culture you're leeching off is secular.
Fixed.
>>1136820
I hate to break this to you, but poltards shouting about how awesome trump is is far more related to the subject of the politics board then religious preaching is to a board dedicated to history and the humanities.
>>1136837
>he supports reddit
Get out of here you fucking cancerous lout.
>>1136802
>Also, a question for you.
Copied and pasted directly from:
>Irrefutable questions that Roman Catholics and Orthodox can't answer
http://www.bible.ca/catholic-questions.htm
I just can't take you seriously kiddo.
You are biblically illiterate and completely clueless about the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Protestantism is a demonic abomination. Wake up and stop being tricked by your fellow proddies' schemes.
>>1136220
>>1136220
>>1136220
>>1136220
>>1136811
Of course a muslim could say that, and then he would post quotes from quran that prove this, and then bibleboy over here would post quotes from the bible that prove mohammed was evil or whatever and any and all actual discussion of the issue is drowned in shitflinging.
>>1136843
>>supports reddit
No. I simply recognize that people going apeshit over a political candidate is par the course for a board about politics during an election year.
>>1136856
So it's okay for fucking reddit to ruin the board?
>>1136811
No.
Pic related.
>Every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit.
Matthew 7:17-18
>>1136845
And you couldn't answer it.
>>1136866
> my book says your books is wrong so its obviously wrong... duh, btw are you saying that there were never bad christians or good muslims?
>inb4 no true scottsman
>>1136864
How the fuck is people going apeshit over a presidential candidate during an election year ruining /pol/ exactly?
>>1136872
Do you want me to go full autism and spam questions from ''100QuestionsProddiesCan'tAnswer.com''?
Let's not play this game.
Read:
http://www.protestanterrors.com/
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/salvation.html
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/justification.html
and accept the fact that you subscribe to unbiblical heretical doctrines which will lead you to eternal damnation, wether you currently ''sleep like a baby'' or not.
>>1136879
>I can't read
>hurrr
durrrr
>>1136845
>can't answer the question
>calls someone biblically illiterate
>completely clueless about the Roman church which has been wrong several times
>>1136888
Because it drown out discussions.
>>1136893
>my myth is better than your myth
just because your legend sounds cooler doesnt mean its more true
>>1136890
I subscribe to the Bible.
The Bible has never been wrong, your Church has. Several times in fact.
Sure, as long as you admit your Church has been wrong.
My salvation is for God to decide, not you. Read your Bible.
>>1136837
>lol no
Yes.
>>1136910
>The bible is the quran
Idiot.
>>1136901
I just checked pol's front page and the majority of the threads aren't about trump. I doubt this is as much of a problem as you claim and even if it were I fail to see how these preachers ruining /his/ helps make /pol/ any better.
>>1136902
You're still wrong. The church is not infallible.
>>1136913
Not an argument.
>>1136911
Christianity being nice in your mind is because of stockholm syndrome.
>>1136914
Because most of these fuckers (me included) don't want anything to do with the reddit fucks that ruined /pol/.
>>1136910
>I subscribe to the Bible.
You don't. You subscribe to heretical unbiblical doctrines.
>My salvation is for God to decide, not you. Read your Bible.
I have and I'm letting you know (for your own good) that it teaches:
>What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?
James 2:14
>Faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
James 2:17
>You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!
James 2:19
>You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone.
James 2:24
>For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.
James 2:26
>>1136925
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>>1136911
I wanna hug that lamb.
>>1136935
Post in the threads that aren't about trump then, this shouldn't be difficult to understand.
>>1136940
Name one that I subscribe to.
Oh, are you referring to Protestants believing faith in Jesus alone is enough to get into Heaven?
I'd say that's one step ahead of your Pope saying you don't need to believe at all to get in.
>>1136949
They get shitposted to death by redditors you fucking idiot.
>the /lit/cuck doesn't get it
>>1136943
Do you also want to meet and hug the Lamb of God? Follow His teachings.
>This is the promise that he made to us—eternal life.
1 John 2:25
>>1136954
I used to post on /pol/ dude, long before trump became a thing. 90% of /pol/ is 24/7 shitposting only barely contained by a vaguely apathetic mod.
>>1136952
>Oh, are you referring to Protestants believing faith in Jesus alone is enough to get into Heaven?
Well, do you?
>your Pope
The heretic antipope is not my pope.
>>1136964
>90% of /pol/ is 24/7 shitposting only barely contained by a vaguely apathetic mod
That's the fucking problem. So that's why people are leaving.
>>1136968
Then your Church is not infallible. And is not the true Church, end of discussion.
No, I believe good deeds are necessary.
>>1136953
>I sleep just fine
You're in for a rude awakening.
>He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting destruction and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His might.
2 Thessalonians 1:8-9
>Enter through the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the road is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who go through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Matthew 7:13-14
>>1136968
>The heretic antipope is not my pope.
No, he is the Pope. Deal with it. What country you live in?
>>1136968
But I also believe that Jesus' mercy is unending.
>>1135818
>I became redpilled, I became Catholic.
>>1135818
Doubt is normal. Just read the Word and pray. Encourage yourself with stories of others who had incredible experiences with the Lord and the miracles he does. Meditate and search for the lord with all your heart. Meditate on his Word
>>1137005
No thanks, the church has failed, several times. It's not the true Church.
>>1136999
>But I also believe
>But I also
>also
So you believe that faith in Jesus alone is enough to get into Heaven?
>>1136991
>No, he is the Pope
A complete list of the 42 antipopes in Church history:
http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/4_Antipopes.pdf
The Catholic teaching that a heretic cannot be a valid pope:
http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/6_noheretic_pope.pdf
>>1137018
I believe that Jesus will decide that.
Good deeds should be done, although you could do many good deeds and still be a wicked man at heart.
>>1137023
Point the heresy then. Because I ain't seeing shit. He's the Pope, a shit Pope but still the Pope.
>>1137030
Do you believe that faith in Jesus alone is enough to get into Heaven?
>>1137032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvjmveYw0tE
>>1137038
I don't have time to listen to some Sedeshit tell me what's wrong with him.
>>1137036
Then it's redditors coming over still.
>>1136301
You don't know what vicar means do you?
>>1137050
>Then it's redditors coming over still.
The proof of this is what exactly? I mean like 8 or 9 years ago people were saying the same shit about gaia, myspace etc.
4chan has become popular and I have no doubt that this place has been shitted up by newfags, but the problem is the popularity, not any one given website.
>>1137034
What do you have to say about Eph 2:8-9?
>>1136274
The church has never taught this
Simony is heresy
>>1137062
It says that we are saved by grace through faith and not that we are saved by faith alone.
What do you have to say about >>1136220 >>1136250 ?
>>1137061
>The proof of this is what exactly?
The actions.
>>1137083
Are you kidding?
Eph 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
>saved by grace through faith, not of works
>>1137095
This biblical passage which you proddies love so much does not say what you want it to say.
Stop ignoring the rest of Scripture:
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/salvation.html
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/justification.html
>>1137087
True faith in Jesus leads to good works.
Are we only saved through faith in Jesus? Yes.
Does any of that matter (faith) if we are not good and do not do good things? No.
That is my stance.
>>1137092
What actions? Being obnoxious internet atheists? That was a thing long before reddit was anything more then a furry board for furries.
>>1137107
>Are we only saved through faith in Jesus? Yes.
Unbiblical. Heretical. Not only wrong but also blatantly illogical.
You might as well just convert to mormonism.
Don't get too triggered by the site's name, these links contain a collection of Biblical passages:
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/salvation.html
Scripture
I. Good Works in Sanctifying Grace are Necessary for Salvation
II. We are not Guaranteed Salvation; We Hope for Salvation
III. Predestination and the "Elect"
IV. Jesus' Teaching on Losing Salvation
V. Other Apostolic Teaching on Losing Salvation by our Own Choice
VI. I Have Been Saved (past event)
VII. I Am Being Saved (present event)
VIII. I Will Be Saved (future event)
IX. I Save (by participating in Christ's salvific work)
Tradition / Church Fathers
I. We are Saved by Faith and Works, and Not Faith Alone
II. We are not “Once Saved, Always Saved”
http://www.scripturecatholic.com/justification.html
Scripture
I. Faith and Works Together Lead to Justification
II. Works of Law Versus Good Works
III. Justification = Real Inner Change of Person (Infusion); Not Just a Declaration (Imputation)
IV. Some Examples of Justification as Ongoing (not a one-time event)
V. Jesus and the Apostles Teach that Works are Necessary for Justification
Tradition / Church Fathers
I. Justification Brings About Infused Righteousness
II. We are Justified by Grace Through Faith and Works
>>1135818
>redpilled
kys desu
>>1137134
Okay, what if I change it to we are only given salvation by faith.
>>1137134
Also I am instantly triggered because the Church has been wrong.
>>1137143
How do you prove your faith?
>>1137107
>>1137143
>faith in Jesus leads to good works so muh faith alone
NO.
>For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.”
2 Peter 2:20-22
>>1137187
No, see, it's a rhetorical question for the guy who jerks off to babylon.
>>1137170
>which have been interpreted by the Church which at one time rejected inspired scripture
>>1137151
>Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but the Father’s who sent me.
John 14:23-24
>And by this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. Whoever says “I know Him” but does not keep His commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, but whoever keeps His word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in Him: whoever says he abides in Him ought to walk in the same way in which He walked.
1 John 2:3-6
>>1136957
>>1136968
>>1137087
>>1137187
>>All these images of a white anglo jesus.
Fail.
Jesus likely looked something more like this when he was alive.
>>1137199
>let me ignore what Scripture says
>>1137217
>t. Roman Church
>>1137215
Do you also get upset when the Japanese post Jesus in a Japanese looking way?
>>1137215
This is a facial reconstruction based on 3 random skulls and they've morphed them into a repulsive face on purpose.
It looks like Jesus Christ as much as it looks like Bashar Al-Assad.
Go back to facebook with this blasphemous shit-tier meme.
>>1137226
Not really no. But then I've never met all that many japanese christians. But having jesus look like a japanese guy would also be inaccurate.
>>1137224
>if I meme like this I can ignore what Scripture says
>Jesus is proud of me
>I sleep like a baby xD
>>1137234
>Not really no
Then forget about it you fucking tumblr tier faggot
>>1137231
>>3 random skulls
>>Starting with the assumption that Jesus resembled a typical peasant from 1st century CE Galilee, Richard Neave, a medical artist retired from the University of Manchester in England, and a team of researchers:
>>"... started with an Israeli skull dating back to the 1st century. They then used computer programs, clay, simulated skin and their knowledge about the Jewish people of the time to determine the shape of the face, and color of eyes and skin." 2
>>Mike Fillon followed the research and wrote an article about the portrait in "Popular Mechanics" magazine. 3 He said during a CNN interview that:
>>"There are very strong rabbinical laws in Israel that you cannot tamper with a skull or any bones, so they needed to reconstruct the skull. Using a cat scan, which is very common in hospitals, they were able to recreate the skull precisely and make a cast of it. Then they put small wooden pegs, based on anthropological data, to figure out what the muscle structure and the skin would look like, and so they layered that on using clay-like substances." 4
>>The result is shown in the left portrait above: a person with abroad peasant's face, dark olive skin, short curly hair and a prominent nose. His height would have been on the order of 5' 1"; he would have weighed about 110 pounds. Alison Galloway, professor of anthropology at the University of California in Santa Cruz , said that: "This [portrait] is probably a lot closer to the truth than the work of many great masters."
You sound mad, little preacher.
>>1137213
you should read about this anon, you will like it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_Lanciano
>>1137259
btw the wikipedia page is wrong. The UN did a shitload of tests to check if the italian ones were accurate, and they confirmed them
>>1137261
>trying to start more shit
anon no
>>1137234
>>1137254
>>1137261
Jesus Christ's phenotype was that of an Eastern Mediterranean Levantine caucasian. Many of them are pale skinned, even light eyed and some are also light haired and blonde when they're babies/toddlers. Therefore, depicting Him as a ''white male'' is far from being incorrect, though His hair color as an adult shouldn't be too light.
His physical appearance is irrelevant though considering that He is the Son of God.
>For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him.
Isaiah 53:2
Isaiah was here prophesying that the coming suffering Servant would arise in lowly conditions and wear none of the usual emblems of royalty, making His true identity visible only to the discerning eye of faith.
>>1137259
Thanks, I know about it already, see >>1135412
>>1137283
>irrelevant
unimportant*
>>1137254
>resembled a typical peasant from 1st century CE Galilee
Which is supposed to look like...?
>their knowledge about the Jewish people of the time to determine the shape of the face, and color of eyes and skin
Their knowledge is based on...?
The wewuzians must love this.
Pic related is also ''le super epic facial FORENSIC reconstruction :OOO'', is that supposed to be ''the true face'' of Boudica or of any other historical Northern European person though? Of course not you dishonest atheist imbecile.
This level of idiocy truly hurts.
>>1137254
>CE
Are you jewish?
>>1135818
Okay, so assuming this post is genuine and not a bait
Do you seriously thinking coming to the internet, and 4chan of all places, for this question is a good idea?
>hurr
>>1137329
>durr
>>1137329
Reality
>>1135818
>even though I may not have full faith anymore
Faith is the root and good works are the fruit of salvation.
>>1137354
>BBC computer
>big black cock computer
>>1137283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkELEUU7UJw
>>1137354
>Everyone in Judea looked exactly the same with no variation among their facial features and hairstyle whatsoever
>Jesus looking like in this picture would also have constituted a problem somehow
2000 years ago:
>rejecting the Lord
>insulting the Lord
>betraying the Lord
>scourging the Lord
>mocking the Lord
>spitting on the Lord
>crucifying the Lord
>killing the Lord
2000 years later:
>rejecting the Lord
>insulting the Lord
Satan loves it.
>>1136069
He's wrong about unbelievers tho
I can at least speak for myself and thr unbelievers i know, and i dont know anyone that is "tempted by belief".
