Can we have a thread about weird things that happend in history that nobody can explain?
Starting this thread with
>The Roanoke Colony, also known as the Lost Colony, was established on Roanoke Island in late 16th-century
>The colonists disappeared during the Anglo-Spanish War, three years after the last shipment of supplies from England. Their disappearance gave rise to the nickname "The Lost Colony." To this day, there has been no conclusive evidence as to what happened to the colonists.
Huge Network of Mysterious, Man-Made Caves in China
>In 1992, a man in the Chinese village of Longyou pooled his money with his neighbors to buy a water pump and began siphoning out the pond in his village, only to eventually discover that it wasn't really a pond at all, but the flooded entrance to an ancient, man-made cave. Upon investigation, it turned out that, rather than the entrance to Chinese Batman's secret lair, this cave was one in a network of 36 hidden chambers in the area, all dating back to the early Han dynasty, about 2,000 years ago.
>There are no documents whatsoever, at least none that have been discovered, that record the construction or purpose of the Longyou Caves, although the excavation would have been an immense, government-contracted project involving the movement of 900,000 cubic meters of rock. This is especially odd considering the ancient Chinese were meticulous record-keepers.
>>1242121
It's likely there was a massacre by Indians who dumped the bodies into the river.
My biggest unanswered question: what caused the Maya to decline?
>>1242121
The medieval snail meme, which remains unexplained.
>>1242128
Mayan civilization wasn't united under one ruler, so decline occurs when periods of war occur.
It seems like the Mayans ironically were terrible at planning. Their societies were a lot more chaotic than similar European societies.
>>1242140
ancient shitposting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyatlov_Pass_incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_put_Bella_in_the_Wych_Elm%3F
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_Plague_of_1518
>>1242140
>No please, I have a family!
>Jesus
Who was his dad?
>>1244236
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennington_Triangle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dahlia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysian_Mysteries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donner_Party
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiserner_Mann
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_children_of_Woolpit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Thunderstorm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voynich_manuscript
>>1244452
How the fuck is the Donner party incident unexplainable?
>>1244255
Pantera
>>1244452
Voynich manuscript is freaky. Probably the work of a schizophrenic t b h.
>>1244577
don't most linguists and cryptographers think it's a code?
>>1244230
But why snails?
Although I suppose historians in the future will ask themselves "but why a frog?"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legio_IX_Hispana
>>1242125
Sounds like somewhere to hide when the Northern Barbarians come knocking to me.
>>1244577
I would kill to know thee orgin of it and who wrote it
>>1244577
The only text from Atlantis
>>1246815
>Atlantis was in Renaissance Italy
I guess that's why we never found the place
Look up Ancient Aliens. It's a fun show
>>1248727
the pyramids were obviously built by ancient finnish rulers, not aliens
>>1242121
i live here, there was a big study a while back saying they fled ~50 miles inland to Bertie county and mixed with friendly indians there, or had a panic fort or something
http://www.witn.com/home/headlines/Researchers-hopeful-that-NC-site-is-that-of-Lost-Colony-289071921.html
>>1242125
It's most likely a planned necropolis or tomb complex.
The Qin-Han Dynasty was the last hurrah of extensive underground tomb-making a la egyptian style in China. Just check out the tombs of various Han Emperors, the famous Lady Dai, and Cao Cao's recently excavated tomb. Look at the walls of such tombs and they bear resemblance to how the rocks were cut in the Longyou caves Afterwards it was just meme temples dedicated to ancestors.
>>1242121
>>1242125
That's pretty fascinating, it's huge and ancient.
However for China caves are a relatively normal thing, they've lived in caves as long as recorded history. Still millions of Chinese live in caves.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_preta
Pretty much the whole Amazon forest is apparently man-made
>>1249795
Makes me want to build a kiln out back so I can throw some bone ash in the compost.
>>1242121
>>1249777
>>1249730
You want to talk about Chinese caves and creepy shit? Well here's one that's p. scary.
One of Mao's crazier though (somewhat) sensible projects was to build massive complexes of underground shelters ready for a Nuclear showdown with USA (and then USSR).
These were huge, the size of cities, and connected some of China's major cities with each other. But afterwards the project was abandoned. They're also closed nowadays. But people still regularly enter and do lord knows fucking what within them. The one in Beijing though is pretty inhabited by small shops, brothels, and gambling dens.
>>1249802
Same as the USA. And the USSR. And the UK. So...? They act like a normal state with nuclear weapons.
The cave gap is not a joke.
>>1249830
Except US and UK bunkers are pretty much policed?
Also these werent meme tunnels but large spaced cut underground. And the chinks left it to people without bothering to seal em off.
>>1244236
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1561_celestial_phenomenon_over_Nuremberg
>there was some space battle over earth at one point
>but due to the fact it happened in a time where we can't clearly document things it's now nothing more than a myth that no one will believe
>>1249689
>pyramids, which take a long time to build, were built by the Finns who had recently gained autism
>>1244452
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Dahlia
What's so special about this?
>>1251836
it's a mystery
>>1252070
So? There's like a million of unsolved murders around the world. What makes her so special?
>>1252089
mutilated women don't often appear in busy parts of LA overnight, that coupled with the mystery made it majorly publicized
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Gigas
>>1244236
> dancing plagues
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>>1252106
Go over to South America and you'll see this thing quite often
>>1252089
she was chopped in half
Just who the hell was he and how did he get away with it?
>>1252546
>Be serial killer
>Be careful
>Have simple MO: shoot people
It's the weird as fuck SAW-tier serial killers that really get caught.
>>1252546
>>1242125
>>1252734
Saved
>>1244517
>what kinda country you want senpai
> I want to be a cavalryman, as my father was
Dancing Plague
There is still zero explanation.
That one boat on Bouvet Island.
>>1252126
This is just a shitty urban legend/
>>1254064
What's the story?
>>1254160
There is abandoned boat un that island. Nobody knows why it is here.
>>1253834
wasn't he just a liar?
>>1254179
They found the horse and secret room where he was contained so he could be more than just a simple liar.
>>1249830
The PRC and USSR put a lot more effort into civil defense.
NATO more or less figured everyone was fucked if the bombs started flying.
>>1254168
But that's just a lifeboat left behind by the Norvegia expedition. Trust me, I know. I'm norwegian.
>>1242121
Nazca Lines
Dyatlov Pass Incident
Tunguska Event
How, specifically, humans made the leap from groups of illiterate ape clans to the first civilizations with literature and religious conviction
>>1252546
gaikowksi did it.
>>1254305
>humans made the leap from groups of illiterate ape clans to the first civilizations with literature and religious conviction
To call it a leap is a bold lie.
>>1254367
The "transition" then, you know what I mean.
>>1244577
>conlanging makes you a schizophrenic
please
>>1254246
Not so much as figured out as misled heavily by anti-nuclear factions in western society. An example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_civil_defense#Opposition_to_Cold_War_Nuclear_Civil_Defense
>Claim that nuclear war is unsurvivable
>Interfere with attempts to make it survivable
>Make it unsurvivable
>>1245902
They can just check KnowYourMeme
>>1254305
> Dyatlov Pass Incident
Just camping gone wrong
> Tunguska Event
Meteor or meteorite.
ITT:
>>1254813
>Just camping gone wrong
m8 people don't just tear themselves out of their own tent and wander into the snow by accident, also the radioactivity is unexplained
>>1254829
Undressing, wandering into snow - Paradoxical hypothermia + delirium from any number of reasonable, natural causes
Broken bones - avalanche, normal hiking accident
Missing bodyparts - scavenging crows, foxes taking out soft tissues
Radioactivity - all is normal comrade, nothing to see here
>>1254886
Conspiracy explanation: Ruski military secretly tested minor incapacitating agents in the area, unaware that the hikers had ascended to the altitude of their detour. Toxicological analysis was not performed and artificial delirium from any number of agents, BZ for example, are totally plausible as factors influencing skin discoloration and strange behavior, while the reported orange glowing lights in the sky, metal shrapnel and extreme impact wounds are consistent with explosive ordinance distributing chemical bomblets or cluster munition.
>>1254886
>Radioactivity - all is normal comrade, nothing to see here
Not even. Radioactivity is a meme that got thrown into a lot of mysterious stories from the time to make it spookier. Odds are it was just added onto the account later to make it a better story.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taman_Shud_Case
>>1245894
Cryptoautist here
First time I went through it I got the feeling I felt from other such works since decoded.
I believe it is some form of extremely complicated and thoroughly convoluted language.
Making up a language is fun, try it yourself!
literally everything in this thread is aliens, how long can they keep denying it
>>1252113
when was LA ever located in South America
>>1256420
he's saying that women often get chopped up in South America, not that LA is in South America
>>1244452
>Green children of Woolpit
It was proven a hoax, they were most likely Flemish kids that were fleeing from war. The green tinge was from malnutrition. Literally says so in the article
>>1244452
What's so spooky about the Dionysian Mysteries? Unless you think they're somehow the work of some terrible dark god.
>>1249795
I desperately want this to be true. If we can make ONE fuckhuge rain forest, we can make more. Forests for everyone!
>>1252799
wu tang clan aint nothing to fuck with!
>>1242121
>>1255219
They were killed or absorbed by neighboring tribes while probably trying to escape a possible famine.
They carved "Croatoan" into the fence around their old settlement to indicate they were going to Croatoan, a nearby island with friendly Native Americans who would hopefully take them in after a likely massive crop failure (The cities of Manteo and Wanchese on the modern island is actually named after their two allied Native American chiefs, although Wanchese severed his alliance with the English after visiting England and returning home). The reason it was likely crop failure is because they had been instructed to leave a Maltese cross if there was violence causing their departure, but there was no cross and only the word of the place they were going.
After that some were ambushed and killed by Native Americans who were hostile to the tribes that the settlers had been trading with and converting. They stole their possessions and these were traded around the Chesapeake/Pamlico areas. Chief Powhatan actually showed John Smith some of their metal pots and pans he had acquired, which Smith knew must have been of English origin because of their make and the Native American's lack of metal and metalworking techniques. Smith claims that Powhatan says he ordered their deaths, but that may be untrue.
Meanwhile, the others who survived just adapted to living with the friendly tribes. Because the relief fleet returned to Roanoke (years late) right before a storm, they decided to leave and didn't search out Croatoan Island, which they clearly knew about based on their writings. So much time went by without contact from the English in the region that the survivors were probably just adopted by the tribe they had been allied with. This is supported by reported Native Americans with European features in the area decades later.
tl;dr the English totally left & forgot the colonists and they just lived with (or died alongside) their new friends
>>1256535
t. speculation the post
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollinwell_incident
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Vault
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chryse_%28island%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gray_Man_%28ghost%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_of_Newby_Church
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angikuni_Lake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_of_Celtic_Wood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headless_Horseman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juana_Maria
what was that one murder of someone being followed by people in black suits in some Nordic country that was never solved?
>>1257101
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_of_Newby_Church
Looks like a double exposure with a Halloween costume.
>>1256949
t. I didn't even bother to Google "The Lost Colony"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Colony
>>1258147
It is speculation. You can't know for sure that those people went with the natives to the island. You don't know if they breeded with the natives. But muh european features. Those could have come in from a later date. The word Croatoan could have been writen as a warning.
>>1258186
Croatoan was actually the name of Hatteras Island before the modern age. And multiple European travelers' accounts confirm the Native Americans in the area of Croatoan claimed to have relocated from Roanoke and had European features. Some even had older forms of English words in their language.
The only reason it's "speculation" is because there are no written accounts from the settlers themselves, for obvious reasons. But the Englishmen of the relief fleet admitted they didn't bother to search for them, and that they had a clear indication of where the settlers had gone. The people did not just disappear, and that is attested to by later Europeans and the oral history of the Native Americans of Croatoan themselves. It's not rocket science to piece this together.
>>1257127
What's with Juana Maria? Nothing mysterious about it
>>1258449
She was alone for 20 years comrade.
>>1258456
I know, that's hardcore and her mental health must have suffered really bad. But that's no mystery, if so, "savage childrens" and hermits are mystery too
>>1258456
I've been alone for 20 years
>>1258514
It's a joke, lad
>>1258555
nothing funny about it. That woman is twice the man you will ever be. She survived on her own for 20 years. 20 FUCKING YEARS. She had to provide for herselfs. She had to hunt, make clothes, find shelter. Could you do that? NO YOU COULDN'T. You are just a sad litle manbaby who is tough on the internet.
>>1258606
not even him, lad
>>1258606
could she get a gf?
>>1252107
>On Friday, 7 May 1697, a fierce fire broke out at the royal castle in Stockholm, and the Royal Library suffered very badly. The codex was rescued from the flames by being thrown out of a window. The codex apparently injured a bystander and some of its leaves fluttered away and they are still missing today
>>1254803
Exactly. I don't understand why people think the culture of our contemporary era will be in any way hard to understand for future historians considering that this is by far the most well documented period in human history.
>>1242140
Furries
![aztec-giant[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IebZekP.jpg "aztec-giant[1].jpg")
Dozens of giant skeletons (7-8ft tall) were reportedly found in burial mounds across the United States during the 19th and early 20th century. There are hundreds of newspaper articles attesting to this, but the specimens were destroyed at some point and the only shit I can find online about them comes from fringe looneys. I only know about them because my Mexican history book (Fehrenbach's "Fire and Blood") claims they existed and roamed prehistoric America. Giants are featured in the religions and mythologies of numerous native culture's, and while they're also present in European mythology the American natives appear to take the claims seriously.
Here's some of those articles, collected by a person who doesn't seem crazy:
http://www.jasoncolavito.com/newspaper-accounts-of-giants.html
>>1254305
>Nazca Lines
Topeli kekeli
>>1249731
He looks so handsome in this one
Any theories ?
![06d2109495c6d554c369c96e9f37263b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3ai2Ghg.jpg "06d2109495c6d554c369c96e9f37263b[1].jpg")
>>1258707
Adding on to this, could it be possible that there were very tall peoples in the Americas that just seemed gigantic to Amerindians who arrived later and displaced them? There are tribes in Ethiopia and Sudan whose men average around 6'6" in height, and perhaps they gave special privileges (and burials) to people who were taller than the average.
>>1258764
Isn't the most popular theory was that it was a hyena that escaped from a local count or lord's menagerie?
>>1258707
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinametzin
>>1244244
These get me every time
>>1252070
>Following Short's identification, reporters from the Los Angeles Examiner contacted her mother, Phoebe Short, and told her that her daughter had won a beauty contest. Only after prying as much personal information as they could from Phoebe, did the reporters tell her that her daughter had been murdered. The newspaper offered to pay her air fare and accommodations, if she would travel to Los Angeles to help with the police investigation. That was yet another ploy, since the newspaper kept her away from police and other reporters to protect its scoop
wew. journalists are cancer
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Herbert_Wallace
>>1258748
Nobility shenanigans. Or the bastard of someone important
>>1244452
Black Dahlia was solved, some guy figured out that his dad was the killer, also turns out the same guy killed others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92rr6c-ZVn8
>>1258514
>In late November 1835, the schoonerPeor es Nada, commanded by Charles Hubbard, leftMonterey, Californiaunder contract to remove the remaining people living on San Nicolas. Upon arriving at the island, Hubbard's party gathered the Indians on the beach and brought them aboard.
It's in the wikipedia article. Her story is really interessting but it have nothing of a mystery.
>>1258835
Whoever did it, being the husband or not, is really clever, it's one of those "perfect mureder" case.
Also, nobody mentionned Jack the Ripper, people are still scratching their heads over this one
![Touch_the_Clouds_1877a[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GSTks5D.jpg "Touch_the_Clouds_1877a[1].jpg")
>>1258707
Touch the Clouds was a Lakota Chief who was 6'9"
If I found his body in a mound I'd think he was a giant.
>>1258456
> She was alone for 20 years comrade
> just 20 years on fucking island
> being that casual
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanche_Monnier
>>1242121
siege of smolensk, the last 3000 russians blockaded themselves in & blew themselves up with kegs of gunpowder in true snackbar fashion instead of being captured by the poles
>>1259394
>Touch the Clouds
cool name
>>1259394
How did he get so tall? Most Indians are short (mexican tier)
>>1258835
>‘Almost every fact in the evidence was accepted by both prosecution and defence; but every fact could be interpreted in two ways.’
But it wasn't.
>>1258905
>thinks his dad is the Black Dahlia killer and the Zodiac killer
dang
