>historical figures who lived long enough to see themselves become the villain
no Hitler or Stalin memes plz
>cromwell
>a villain
How?
>>1124018
>Brutal savage.
>Let Jews back into England.
>etc.
>Somehow not a villain.
Are you retarded?
>>1123990
t. Bostonian Plastic Paddy
>>1124033
I want Cavaliers to leave
>>1124033
>Savage
>Joos
>etc.
Great arguments, familia.
>>1123990
>>1124193
>genocide and enslavement of a race wasn't savage
>>1124018
He went full ISIS.
>>1124282
Is that Fidel? He's more like the villain that lived to see himself become the hero.
>>1123990
Close OP but Churchills downfall qualifies as this.
The old Bolsheviks saw themselves be made out as villians
>>1124282
Is he the closest man to Big Boss the world has ever gotten?
Pretty obvious one.
If he wouldn't become a villain, he wouldn't be stabbed in the back by everyone.
>>1124420
He was stabbed because he didn't become a villain. He kept the bastards alive.
Later on Octavian and Anthony understood the lesson and put all potential enemies on proscription lists.
Robespierre obviously
>>1124429
He pretty much single-handedly destroyed the republic, if that's not villainous, then I don't know what is
>>1124286
What happened in Ireland is not entirely Cromwells fault. Not at all.
>>1123990
Mao Zedong. Fought against an oppressive regime only to become probably the worst leader China has ever seen.
Zhu Yuanzhang as well. He fought to overthrow the Mongols but when he became a ruler he was excessively paranoid, murderous and cruel.
Some of the Manchu Emperors were like that as well. When you want to keep power and stability, sometimes virtue leaves you.
>>1124434
>he pretty much single-handedly destroyed the republic...
He was the one who actually did it, but it was inevitable.
>>1124434
He did nothing worse than Sulla. In fact, he did much better things than Sulla.
>>1123990
Sulla
>>1124547
This.
>>1124450
>FORCES them to have smaller crop areas so to starve them out
>plantations
>treated like second class citizen
>kills them for nothing other than land and greed
>Not entirely Cromwells fault
t.James Cameron
>>1124414
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Hoare
>>1123990
The eternal anglo is always the villain
>>1124434
Oh stop the republic was already faltering at that point
>>1124857
The last great Irish General
>>1124649
Again, that is not all Cromwell. Irish catholic oppresion did not start with nor end with Cromwell.
>>1124880
are you actually autistic.
>>1124489
fuck off, felix> caesar
caesar was a uncivilized nigger who suffered of megalomania
>>1124199
Was he ever a good guy?
>>1124434
The Republic was corrupt and inefficient for nearly a century. Both Caesar's actions were a net positive for Rome.
>>1124018
>tried to increase the power of parliament
>overthrew king
>Parliament still can't get along
>religious fanatics he used to overthrow the king wouldn't go away after the way
>end up disbanding parliament
>literally had to become the "king"
