ITT We post what we believe are our country's greatest heroes.
Italy?
Spain?
The Papacy?
>>1110314
Italy.
>>1110306
Tiocfaidh ar la
What's so special/notable about Cesare Borgia?
greatest slav ever
I feel like we gotta be proud of the moments in history where we were the "bad guy"
>>1110306
>not based D'Annunzio
>>1110306
>>1110306
>>1110690
this desu
>>1110690
This triggers Johnny Reb.
>>1110316
For real though, Washington is one of the few people in history that the more I read about him, the more I respect him.
Skanderbeg.
>>1110799
It's because you're a poof
>>1110805
Hi Serbia.
>>1110838
Serbia? Far from. Skanderbeg is Albania's national hero, mind you.
>>1110884
A counter-argument
>>1110899
>>1110906
>>1110931
lmao lee was 10x the general grant was. Stonewall Jackson > than any union general.
>>1110931
>>1110931
>>1110965
>glorified cheerleader
>hero
>not Charlemagne or Robespierre
>>1110955
>>1110973
>charlemagne
>french
>robespierre
>implying it isn't ole Boney
>>1110306
For Italy or Spain?
because both have several heroes more based (and actually succeeded in their plains).
>>1110476
>5 out of 10 Americans disagree
>>1110314
The Borgias were trying to, at the very least, bring Italy into their influence. They were the first to see Italy as more then a geographic area.
My hero
Maybe this guy
I'm embarrassed about knowing little of Australian cultural icons compared to some countries
>>1110690
Came to post this
Shame his legacy has been tainted by Chavistas.
I'm gonna go with Arthur Currie.
>>1110690
I always thought that was an awesome picture of him too. He a real 'don't fuck with me' look about it.
He really looks like a soldier's soldier.
This guy.
Awarded two separate Victoria Crosses for his actions in WWII. His citations read like something out of a video game.
FUCKING SICK CUNT!!!!!
>>1110306
Accept no substitute
>>1110980
>Robespierre
>being close to any form of success or competence
![west14f-3-web[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/k6MGEKE.jpg "west14f-3-web[1].jpg")
>>1110436
When in reality
>>1110378
My. Fucking. Nigger.
>>1115121
You guys must be uploading the wrong files.
>>1110306
There was many of them, but this one was always my favourite!
>>1110490
Oh God fuck yeah!!!
>>1116265
But in reality..
>>1115121
>gustav vasa
>hero
>>1116308
What is it with the last interesting kings dying like bitches?
>Gustavus Adolphus: Separated from his men in battle, thrown from his horse, murdered, stripped, left in a ditch
>Carolus Rex: Shot in the head while inspecting a siege camp
>Gustav III: Shot in back at masquerade, continued to rule for a couple days of suffering before he died
>>1116301
>Evola
he ruined the pic
>>1113457
One brought a nation together, the other oversaw it's disunion... One turned down the allure of royalty and the other assumed the mantle of tyrant.
>this triggers the separatist
>>1116451
He had some good moments.I took this picture from some exibition,i am not sure but i think CasaPound organised it.
>>1116480
IT'S 1980!!
>>1110413
8.5/10
>>1116520
Just because his wife ruined his son doesn't mean that Pierre was a great leader.
>>1116535
Wasnt****
Going to have to go for Edward Carson myself, even if he wasn't born in the six counties.
>>1110378
>>1116150
Even as a Unionist, it is impossible to not love the The Big Fella
>>1116150
>>1110378
>Collins
He was pretty fucking based, but I think we're leaving someone important out.
>>1110426
>Brazil
>Not always bad guys
K, senpai.
>>1117613
>He was pretty fucking based, but I think we're leaving someone important out.
We've got heroes for days 2bh
Prove me wrong
>>1110883
alb..? you mean serbia, the lands of the serbs
>>1116457
>Implying Lincoln didn't reunite a fractured nation without overly punishing the south
>>1117633
>>1117613
>>1116150
>>1110378
Does he count?
>>1117663
Traitors will stay mad and form their little traitor clubs, jacking each other off and chanting: "Tha South will rahse aginn." while listening to Uncle Cracker.
This one probably. Small country, but we have quite a few.
>>1117708
/thread
>>1117708
I'm giving him one >>(You). Don't give him any more.
>>1110306
>>1116480
trudeau was a pretty cool guy
if his son wanted to follow in his footsteps instead of sucking off obama or clinton he would have gone with the NDP (because the liberal party has been shit for a while)
>>1117854
>>1110378
Mick Collins is a fucking traitor who sold out the six counties to the Brits and his Irish Free State was not legitimate. He cried to the Brits for help to gun down his former comrades just so he could remain in power. Good riddance, you got the fate you deserved at Béal na Bláth.
A true national hero would be someone like >>1117613, Wolfe Tone, Sean South, Patrick Kelly or Bobby Sands.
>>1110306
Mur des Fédérés
~ wall of the federates
People who visit Paris go to the Père Lachaise cemetary to see Jim Morrisson or Oscar Wilde's tombstones.
But in same cemetary is the Mur des Fédérés. Where dozens of Communards were shot in 1871. They had just fought for more justice and equality.
What's more courageous than the little man who takes arms against the State? The french State had just capitulated against Prussia. Armed parisians, who had stood a long siege, refused to surrender. RIP.
>>1117940
who's the man on the right?
Leader of India's communist party?
>>1117971
147 heroes shot dead
>>1110899
>hidden hand
Your hero's a dirty Masonic infiltrator, anon.
>>1117940
>Cuban
>On the internet
Pick one.
>>1110316
Not really. He was pretty standard in ability, and is most important for being able to not fuck up during times of crisis. In a similar circumstance, most American presidents would have likely been just as successful.
>>1110476
Better choice, although he was ideologically inconsistent and made some disastrous decisions early in the war, underestimating the South and allowing the CSA to make great gains despite the overwhelming advantage of the Union.
>>1110690
>>1110899
Innovative strategian, but not to the degree of Winfield Scott or Eisenhower. In addition, his successes were less impressive than those of Grant. I'd argue he's most important in terms of his influence, rather than actual personal talent.
>>1110884
/pol/ shitpost
>>1110906
Brilliant tactician but ultimately a poor strategian. Still, much of the Confederacy's success was mostly attributable to his own expertise.
>>1110931
Grant's ability to see the big picture while also dominating the battlefield makes him potentially our greatest general, but he was a weak administrator who could never curb the rampant corruption within his own cabinet. Despite facing domestic problems that do not even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the conflicts settled by Lincoln and arguably Johnson, U. S. Grant managed to fuck up.
>>1110947
Literally just a good tactician. Despite performing well individually on the battlefield, he was paranoid (ironic, given his type of death) and refused to share information with his subordinates or peers. This hampered the CSA's success, although the war was quite nearly unwinnable from the start.
>>1110955
He faces the opposite problem of most Confederate generals: Butler understood the big picture, and massively helped the Union win its war, but lost too many battles and men to be considered our greatest leader.
>>1117644
He's worked well with the hand he's been dealt, but it's far too early to guide the significance of the Obama legacy.
Our greatest leader, in terms of sheer ability, is almost certainly pic related. Our greatest leader in terms of influence is probably Hamilton, because his efforts (in conjunction with those of Madison) laid the foundation for the creation of a unified and uniform American state. If not for the federalists, people would be posting Voltaire memes about the "United" "States" of "America".
>>1116311
>Gustav Vasa
>Not Hero
Pic unrelated
>>1110378
>>1116150
>>1117613
>>1117633
>>1117672
Come on now lads
>>1110322
How can that spanish fuck be considered Italy's greatest hero? He achieved fucking nothing.
Literally the only good leader this country has ever had.
Long live!
Feliks Dzierżyński of the Sulima coat.
>>1119959
>spanish
>>1120067
all the other "heroes" in the thread can only kiss this guy's feet
>>1120044
만세!!
>>1116518
CasaPound are poseurs tho
>>1120091
>spanish father
>spanish titles
>spanish friends
>member of the spanish nation at university
>went to Spain after being btfo of Italy
I'm not sure if he grew up in Spain before university, but he probably did too.
>>1116457
Boothe is that you?
Sic Semper these nuts.
>>1120044
>imperialist collaborator and tyrant
>hated by his people during his lifetime
>communism collapses in the 90s
>"Park Chung-hee knew it all along!"
every single time
>>1120202
>Italian mother
>Born and raised in Italy
>Sent by the Pope in Spain (against his will,where he lived as a prisoner for 3 years, until breaking out and dying the next)
>Loved Italy more than the rest of the lords combined, the only one who wanted to unify it and fight for the whole Italy, not just for a Comune
>>1120036
AVE GLÓRIA, AVE IMPÉRIO!!
>>1113064
Easy to do that when you're a foreign family with no strong ties with any of the different italian identities.
>>1120254
You don't honestly think he wanted to unite Italy for patriotism, do you? He just wanted to conquer himself a kingdom.
>>1120312
Do you think the Savoias did it for patriotism? If they did it for power,should they be considered less heroes then? The other lords, "real" Italians, were pieces of shit,completely fine with being under the French or the Spanish. What did Ludovico Il Moro, a "real" italian, do? Meanwhile, even after he escaped from Spanish prison, he always wanted to go back to his home. Listen, you can think what you want about Cesare Borgia,that's just your opinion, but imo he was the Italianest of them all: a real human being and a real hero.
>>1118307
>Better choice, although he was ideologically inconsistent and made some disastrous decisions early in the war, underestimating the South and allowing the CSA to make great gains despite the overwhelming advantage of the Union.
That meme needs to die. The reason why the Union was so damn unprepared for the Civil War was because James Buchanan, the 15th president, was a pro-slavery Democrat who sat on his hands doing nothing while the south militarized and seized federal armories in the wake of the John Brown incident (Where do you think Charlestonians got those cannons to fire on Fort Sumter? ) By the time Lincoln arrived on the scene it was far too late, and he had to fight a desperate war AND pick up the pieces at the same time.
>>1120380
>Do you think the Savoias did it for patriotism?
No, but nobody considers them national heroes either. Garibaldi is the one receiving the accolades, and he certainly had no other real reason to fight, since he was never politically powerful. Also congrats in naming the scummiest italian ruler when you could have chosen any number of venetian and florentine rulers that opposed foreign powers and fought in favour of the Lega Italica instead.
>he always wanted to go back to his *power base
FTFY
I'm sorry, but I have some trouble considering someone related to the single biggest force of destabilization in the peninsula (the papacy) as a national hero.
>>1115121
Didn't know tyrannical murderers where heroes.
>>1110306
that's not Garibaldi
>>1120408
>scummiest
He was no different than the others, and all the rumors about him and the Borgias in general were propaganda, because "muh 100% Italian heritage, fuggen Spaniards :(". Even the Medicis, whose cock gets sucked so hard to this day, weren't saints. I respect Lorenzo but I think that saying "Let's unify the country" is different than "Let's not fight eachother,calmly take it in the ass from foreigners and pay enourmous ammounts of money for paintings".
>>1120458
We started taking it in the ass from foreigners when Ludovico decided to call in the french to help him with italian internecine wars. There's nothing wrong with wanting to stay as an alliance of nations instead of unifying (even with all the divisions and wars, Italy was still remarkably wealthy all the way till the 18th century), as long as you don't actively invite fucking foreigners to come in.
>>1120471
Yeah, there's no question about the fact that Lorenzo was way better than Ludovico.
>>1116294
>>1117684
>inb4 butthurt Serbs and BlackHill rednecks
Feelsgoodman.jpg
Comrade Laika is greatest hero of Russia.
Him or Arminius
>>1120546
I stumbled upon this once. What a mess, like the real deal.
Publius Quinctilius Varus.
>>1117644
Well for starters he hasn't done anything of benefit to anyone.
>>1120552
ADORABLE
D
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49-0.
>>1110306
im gonna go with konrad adenauer
>>1113376
you liberal masonic anglo cuck
>>1110306
Obligatory
also the borgias always were Catholic Monarch wannabes
>>1121740
Not even the best 49-0 of all time
Floyd's definitely the GOAT welterweight but I'll be fucked if that guy goes down as "the best ever"
>>1113108
>not sir John Monash
>>1110973
> Charlemagne
> French
> Robespierre
> Worthy of being in this thread
Do you know any French history?
>>1110306
ROMA, ITALIA, ESPAÑA. THEY WILL ALL BE MINE!
t. Cesare
>>1123846
>Charlemagne
>Anything but French
Spot the Germanic servant
>>1123887
Sorry but both Charlemagne and his empire was germanic
Johnny boy
He was a jew but he was our jew
>>1110445
Bilal ?
>>1123887
>>1110973
>>1120569
shit choices, both countries didn't even come close to existence at their lifetime
>>1123940
t. Germanic servant
>>1113434
>Socialist/nationalist hero
Didn't his actions along side his companions send the lands of the Czech crown behind technologically likewise as economically? (embargo etc.) Otherwise than that he is very charismatic character.
>>1117662
>s*rvs
>>1120283
Most Princes aren't ethnic natives. The Borgias believed themselves to be Italy's premier family though.
One of the few Canadians worth giving a damn about
My hero.
>>1110306
My country has no heroes.
>>1125904
American here
I actually hugely admire Ho Chi Minh. He might have been a filthy commie, but he stood for the independence of his homeland and did whatever was necessary to secure that independence. He was a more than worthy opponent and a part of me wishes that the US had been politically able to support North Vietnam/Vietnam rather than having to fight against Ho Chi Minh.
Like a commie George Washington.
>>1118317
Delete this shit stain, now.
potatomen are angry rn
Strongly contested by James Watt and John Knox but I'll go with Smiffy.
>>1110306
>>1118317
And just like with the Voltaire memes they'd be wrong in the sense that the U.S., like the HRE, would have been a better place to live without the tyrannical central power.
>>1124147
>created an unsustainable diplomatic system
>created young edgy Willy
>tried to cleanse Catholics
0/10
>>1117684
MY MONTENEGRIN NIGGA FUCK THE AUSTRIANS
>>1116301
Absolutely disgusting
Not a commie but he kept our people from opening each other's throats and knew that we were pretty much the same people separated by bullshit religion. He also managed to remain outside the Soviet sphere of influence which for a socialist country in Eastern Europe was a tremendous achievement. When he died the country went to shit and everyone started killing each other over their idiotic nationalism and my family had to flee our home because of it.
>>1110306
germany here:
-Karl der große
-Willi Brandt
-Helmut Kohl
>>1112832
So many greek historical figures and you peak Diogenis?
>>1126599
Diogenes is the greatest human being ever born
:^)
>>1115110
Such a retard. Wearing a hat he had forbidden some years later
>>1126599
>Diogenes
>Greek
>not Macedonian
>>1126795
>>1110690
My man
>>1110306
Norman Borlaug desu
>>1126502
>inb4 you're French
>>1127937
this
Vicco von Buelow known as Loriot (R.I.P.)
>>1126578
>He said he was the biggest traitor of Montenegro.
Jesus Christ what the fuck is going on down there.
Serdar Janko is probably the best figure to represent Cojstvo i Junastvo!!!
>>1121728
>This triggers the Mick
>>1129357
die m8
wellington should have been sucking horatio off harder, he single handedly saved the brit bongs.
>>1115110
Who?
>>1125732
lusatian serbs
>>1123880
>I must unite the latin peoples under one flag.
>>1129587
He looks like Louis "Cuck" Szekely
>>1110322
Spain.
>>1126022
Make me, cuck
Gonzalo de Córdoba, the Great Captain
Diego de León y Navarrete, Gónzalez de Canales y de Valdivia
>>1117644
we'll have to get more distance to judge more historically
problem is of all the things he didn't do
-he didn't make healthcare universal
-he didn't get us out of the war
-he didn't reverse most of the injustices of the Bush administration (like the Patriot act)
-and he didn't really do anything about the whole "race tension" thing
sure he had resistances from the far-right and moderate left but a stronger president wouldn't have such issues.
>>1127937
Polk was better tho
>>1110306
>>1116373
>Gustavus
Died in battle
>Carolus
Died in battle
>Gustav III
Assassinated, continued ruling until dying from his wounds.
Hardly dying like bitches. If you want someone who went out like a bitch, I'd suggest that fat fuck who ate himself to death.
>>1116311
He freed us from Danish oppression, how is he not a hero?
>>1130616
so you´re chilean?
>>1110973
>charlememe
>french
>Robespierre
>hero
>>1130726
>he thinks Robespierre wasn't a hero.
>>1120067
You're polish right?
>>1129626
considering that he almost wiped out the aboriginals in the south i say he is the opposite
>>1130679
Argie
>>1110413
>TRIGGERED
DEATH TO THE SAVAGES
>>1129587
federalists BTFO
>>1131597
AAAAAAAAAAAA
FUCKIG ENTRERRIANOS
TRAITORS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>1131609
>best day of my life
>>1131671
grrr....
>best day of my life
Verraten von der SPD!!
>>1130726
>Robespierre
>Not a hero
>>1110378
Fuck off your taig cunt.
>>1131694
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Troy
>Dumas described Rosas, who supported Oribe, as a coward who avoided the Argentine War of Independence and took control of Buenos Aires with a barbaric horde, and Montevideo as a heroic city standing against him.
>>1131789
Dumas was a Faggot, Rosas is the best Governor of Buenos Aires.
LONG LIVE TO THE CONFEDERACIÓN
>>1131736
Social democratic European parties are a fucking joke.
>>1131736
>>1131807
Jup pretty much...over a hundret years of betraying the workers in germany, dont know how many in other countries
>>1127937
Not so fast Jacksonian swine.
>>1117971
Those subhumans deserved everything they got
>>1129730
>El Cid
>Not El Campeador
>>1126556
*tips*
>>1132649
Ah shit. My two favorite American heroes hated each other.
This is true suffering.
>>1117971
>commies
>ever good
>>1110306
wasnt this nigga a fag with VD ?
>>1121742
gute Wahl
Too bad he didn't burn down the Vatican when he had the occasion. Otherwise, pretty good.
>>1110306
Literally the antichrist
>>1110306
He's certainly up there
>>1110805
Half Greek, half Serb, Albanian national hero.
So much irony.
>>1133811
REEEEE REPUBLICANS GET OUT OF MY THREAD
>>1120067
you piece of shit
>>1116480
>Trudeauchet
>hero
kek
>>1117971
Vous croyez que les communards étaient des héros? --- Mais c'était la plèbe la plus abjecte qui se battait pour 2 francs par jour, beaucoup plus par ivrognerie et par attrait de l'argent que pour une quelconque raison supérieure.
>>1123940
Charlemagne spoke Franconian and was of french culture.
>>1119946
This is the only true answer
>"I entered into the service of the French republic with the sole view of being useful to my country. To contend against British Tyranny, I have braved the fatigues and terrors of the field of battle; I have sacrificed my comfort, have courted poverty, have left my wife unprotected, and my children without a father. After all I have done for a sacred cause, death is no sacrifice. In such enterprises, everything depends on success: Washington succeeded – Kosciusko failed. I know my fate, but I neither ask for pardon nor do I complain. I admit openly all I have said, written, and done, and am prepared to meet the consequences. As, however, I occupy a high grade in the French army, I would request that the court, if they can, grant me the favor that I may die the death of a soldier."
Any of his quotes are totally based
meme all you want but in terms of actual ability to change stuff for the better, you can't splat the att.
