>Itt: Military Coups throughout history.
Are they effective?
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>>1105930
The most laughable dictator ever came to power as a result of one so there's that.
>>1105930
Effective how?
Do they bring people in power? Yes all the time
Yes.
It baffles me how the U.S. Army never attempted one of those. I think MacArthur actually come close but he backed off in the end.
>>1105930
Yes
I would say not really effective.
It's one thing to regiment an army, it's another to govern a state. You can't apply the norms in one to the other.
Military coups lead to juntas, which are perpetual states of tension and vigilance in which the state has been turned into an armed camp.
Miltary types only have a hammer, and to them everything looks like a nail.
Not only that when you sieze power through force or threat of force, the avenue is always open for someone to knock you off the same way you came in, through force.
Yes, if whatever you're overthrowing is horrible
Depends on the people. It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong. If the people do not support your coup, things won't probably go smoothly.
Of course, you have to backup your claim by being a good ruler/leader, or placing someone who knows their shit.
>>1105930
>Are they effective?
Depends.
>>1105930
in short term maybe
as for south america it has been proved that their armies can´t run a country
>>1105973
>dude pinochet lmao XDDD
underage memester
>>1105970
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newburgh_Conspiracy
but yea if there's any modern general who would pull off a coup, it would be MacArthur
>>1105930
They're effective if the goal of the army is sincerly to fix things up and then leaving.
If not, you'll quickly have the military officers reserving nice places for themselves in the administration and starting a corrupt regime.
>>1105930
>Are they effective?
TO WHAT END?
>>1105970
Smedley Butler was allegedly approached to lead one by a bunch of businessmen but he was an uber patriot MUHHREEEEN among muhreens so he went right to congress about it.
>>1106602
What's wrong with Pinochet? His free helicopter ride program was extremely beneficial for Chili's economy.
>>1108663
even as a Chilean that had family friends tortured by his regime, that made me laugh
>>1108663
>le free helicopter ride LOL
>>1108657
>Smedley Butler was allegedly approached to lead one by a bunch of businessmen
including Prescott Bush, the father of George H. W. Bush
>>1108663
Never gets old.
>>1106602
Pinochet posters are not underage
>>1109321
>>1108774
What do you think of his economic policies?
Mobutu had planned his coup and the government. It went relatively well for an African coup, he managed to do a lot but in the end rampant corruption, incompetence and instability ruined it.
>>1109369
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>>1109366
>pinochet unironically
>>1109369
>>1109368
>>1109366
>>1108663
>>1105973
>I support Pinochet
>Enjoy your free helicopter ride, commie!
The coup in Latvia by K.Ulmanis brought up Latvia to have the 10th best economy in Europe in three years. They were as good as Norway.
So in certain conditions and places a coup is a great thing.
>>1108663
Except when he crashed it in 1983
>>1114034
He went to my Mom's alma mater.
I find it rather funny that a Latvian president studied agriculture at the University of Nebraska.
>>1114055
Latvians were only farmers and soldiers and teachers back then, didnt really surprise me that much. Nonetheless he was the best president they'll ever get.
>>1111938
>Anonymoose
>Not a bunch of left wing retards
>>1105930
Wasn't the current French Republic established by military coup?
>>1114087
>gommies XDDD
>>1114114
But it's true.
They attack Trump and other right wingers but i have never seen them attack any left wing politicians.
Extremely effective. Unlike popular revolts which are usually laughably shitty.
>>1114174
>Meanwhile, in China...
The only Military Coup in China that ever won was Li Yuan's coup against the Sui.
>>1114153
Trump is a literal human meme.
Had he been from politics, he wouldn't be as deridied.
>>1105944
Greece under junta was actually at its most prosperous moments. It wasn't until the military coup of Cyprus where everything went to shit.
>>1114153
>le gommy sanders lel
>>1114153
Trump is a literal meme, so they obviously get more attention by attacking him. They don't attack people like Cruz because even though Cruz is more conservative, he doesn't make for good clickbait.
Anonymous aren't leftist they're ebin libertarians
>>1114102
What?
No.
The fifth republic was made by the assembly, de Gaulle, and was approved by referendum
Yes.
>>1105970
We have a stable government that despite all it's shortcomings, doesn't incite it's generals to rebel.
Plus we are very visible on the world stage.
>>1106692
What about Patton?
>>1106596
no one in south america apart from the Costa Ricans seem to know how to rule a country
>>1105930
Effective for what?
>>1119441
Patton was based, but i dont think he'd pull a coup in his own country.
If pinochet was such a great capitalist, why did he make socialized helicopter rides, instead of letting the free market run them?
>>1119447
yeah but guys in uniform are the worse, whether left or right
>>1105930
Oh boy, sure the Ukrainian coup and the Arab Springs worked effectively...at giving more oxygen to the arms industry. As for the democratic aspect and national stability and security it was a complete failure.
>>1105970
>MacArthur
>Couldn't win Wisconsin in a primary
>Somehow could've had enough support to perform a successful coup
>>1120101
DELETE THIS
>>1120092
Except for Egypt none of that was a military coup.
Was there any other coup attempt in the USA?
>>1120213
Didn't the military play a big part in stabalizing it though and in some aspects did run the country?
>>1120392
I don't know any but some some small scale rebbelions did occur. You had Shay's rebellion that happened right after the revolution but was small scale, and I believe an attempt by someone to work a deal with the Spanish to make himself king of Florida or something like it.
>>1120392
The United States is stable. You only see coups in unstable places full of discontents. No, 16 year olds whining on the internet and 72 year olds holding a sign is not a discontent. Secretly not that secret meetings of people plotting to overthrow the government that number in the thousands are discontents, and the US hasn't had those for a long time. The closest thing we've got now is those Mexicans that think because Mexico owned land 200 years ago California and Texas should go back to Mexico, and those guys are laughing stocks even among other Mexicans in the US.
Generally, people are happy and proud to be an American. Even if they want to complain about how barbaric and crude we are compared to Europeans and their diverse multicultural crap or how the government is an evil amalgamation of tyrants or whatever, at the end of the day, people just want to live their day to day and they like it here. Good food, good people, stable and peaceful unless you walk into a ghetto, and there's no real evidence the government is actually doing anything particularly unsavory to the American people. The whole NSA thing blew up and that got peopled riled up, but the fact is all this spying and shit has been used to keep us safe, not to punish people for pirating or to investigate misdemeanors or put down dissidents or anything malicious. If (and maybe even when) the NSA does start doing that, you will see discontents in the US.
But for the time being and the foreseeable future the US will remain a strong, stable nation. Not free of flaws or problems, but certainly safe from a coup. The military is full of patriots. Until Americans who love America for what it is stop being 95% of enlisted the chance for a coup in America is only slightly higher than the chance of North Korea putting a colony on Mars in the next 100 years.
