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Hello Eurobenises, I has a question: Why do some Bishops participate
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Hello Eurobenises, I has a question:

Why do some Bishops participate in Medieval Battles back in that era? You have peeps like the Norman Bishop Odo of Bayeux and the Hungarian Pal Tomori actually present in battles not as chaplains but as commanders, even participating in fighting.

Is this part of the Job Description or something?
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Commanding armies was a privilege of noblemen and high ranking clergy tended to come from noble families. Also some dude just like war, clergy or not.
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Also some clergy directly owned territory that they were in charge of defending personally, not just as agents of the church. Think like the Prince-Bishops of Germany during the 30 Years War.
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>>1094602
Bishops were feudal lords. Some of the most powerful regional lords in the middle ages were the Prince-Bishops of the Empire. They would quite often go to war in order to realise their ambitions.
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>>1094602

Why do some Italian priests in 1944-45...


[spoiler]Father Luigi Piazza, chaplain of the partisan group "Silvio Corbari", Emilia-Romagna, Italy, March 1945[/spoiler]
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>>1098525
... try to kill each other with extreme prejudice?

(Father Intreccialagli, chaplain of the Legione Tagliamento)
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>>1094602

lots of clergy fought or participated in fighting, often in leader position

monks lead rebelions and priests planned and comanded whole black ops, and if a bishop was basicaly a feudal lord leading an army he probably wasnt some average nice guy
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Bishop job description used to be that of a governor essentially.
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>>1098565

kind of gives you a different wiew on why people entered the church
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>>1098571
Saint Gregory of Tours, who wrote the 6th century History of the Franks where he talked about Clovis and his descendants, was the Bishop of Tours and was actually the direct descendant of a Roman senatorial family and the seat of Bishop was one that ran back and forth through his own family for awhile because they were so prominent and trusted.

Also this was a time when theological matters were vastly important, and there was a time when Gregory outright told the Merovingian king he was an idiot because he wanted to make a law that directly went against the orthodoxy of the time.
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>>1098707

today some would see that as a organised remainder of the former imperial system maintaining partial hegemony trough controling the ideological discourse and political legitimacy

almost like the catholic church was constantly just working on a project of turning barbarians into romans
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>>1098738
That's exactly what it was, the Catholic Church, Byzantium, and Islam all kept the basic Roman institutions alive, but not through a strict state apparatus.
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