how did the Japanese react to the first "Black Ships" (a generic term for any Western navy vessel)?
>>1087136
They weren't very impressed. They LOVED muskets, tho.
>>1087155
what did they think of the people that brought them muskets?
>>1087175
smelly dumb savages
>>1087175
sirry gaijins
>ShÅhei Maru (1854) was built from Dutch technical drawings.
Despite being a closed country, the Japanese were really quite aware of what was going on with Western interests in East Asia, and they were terrified they were going to be next.
It's crazy how, despite having only one point of cultural transmission, the Japanese managed to absorb so much Western learning, like >>1087195
>>1087218
they were intelligent and knew how to keep the Westerners at arms length, while giving just enough to not insight their wrath until they were ready for it.
compare that to the Chinese who attempted the same but gave too little and had FAR less control over their nation especially in the South and West where most smuggling would occur.
>>1087195
so why didnt they set off on copypasted ships filled with musket wielding samurai and go spread good will twords men and all that?
or did they?
>>1087242
because Japan only cared about Japan until latter when they realized they were the only stronk Asians left and therefore the master race.
>>1087240
The Japanese were actually far more willing to give up their own culture once it came to it. There is a famous piece by a German doctor teaching in Tokyo about how the upper class young men were obsessed with western learning and it was a pity that their traditional arts like jujutsu and kenjutsu were in decline
>>1087136
>OPEN THE COUNTRY
>>1087193
>think that looks like Perry
>look at filename
fuck my sides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Adams_(sailor)
Read this guys story. I mean, he recruited the westermer and made him a samurai because hey, connections to abroad and also good at building ships.
>>1087412
Also imagine this as if you were playing Feudal-era Master of Orion 2 and you get this guys as your commander-recruit
>>1087412
The 1980s miniseries "Shogun" was loosely based on Adams' story.
How Europe reacted to jews
>>1087136
>>1087190
Weeb pls
>>1087448
all my advisors get assassinated
>>1087136
something along the lines of "just fuck our shit up senpai-tachi"
Like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDdr-1iOqag
>>1087339
>MAKE IT NOT BE CLOSED
>>1087903
He's correct though. Hygene was shit for westerners and sailors particularly. When you compare to the japs who bathe 4-5 times a day sometimes, its an issue.
The sailors probably bathed maybe once a week.
>>1088355
>The sailors probably bathed maybe once a week.
They wouldnt have bathed at all. Europeans were not big on hygiene at the time
>>1088345
>*STOP HAVING IT BE CLOSED
>>1088363
lol in Shogun europeans are forced to take a bath at sword point all the time
I think the more interesting question is what motivated the United States, of any Western power, to strong-arm Japan into stop being isolationist? Up to that point, America had mostly been isolationist itself (barring the occasional border scuffle and genocide of the natives).
Was Perry a massive weeb? Did he just derive pleasure from telling supposedly inferior peoples what to do?
>>1088478
American whalers needed a place to refuel their boats, and access to coal, when they were near Japan. That and the development of the steam engine made it easier to go places.
