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Why didn't the Crusades to restore the Holy Land to Western
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Why didn't the Crusades to restore the Holy Land to Western Christian rule pick up when Christian Europe massively eclipsed the Muslim world in power in the age of colonialism?

When Jerusalem and the rest of the Levant was finally captured in the WW1 it seems like it was a complete afterthought; presumably the European powers could have done it with relative ease centuries before. Why didn't they?

I assume the answer is the Catholic/Protestant split, but couldn't they have easily competed for control of the Holy Land?
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>>1086117
The same reason the Pope excommunicating kings died off. Moral authority from religion was on the wane.
Also the Ottomans were relatively respectful stewards of the holyland and Jerusalem in particular. It was acceptable to let them hold on to it rather than fight out which whitey would get it.
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>>1086117
Because 19th Century Eurocunts were all about MUH RATIONALITY AND MUH SCIENTIFIC METHODS that were supposed to enlighten the benighted peoples of the world. This was a very optimistic age in which the Europeans felt they owe much to their advance by secularism, science, and rationality.

Acting like a religious zealot is contrary to that image.

Hence the whole fucking Romantic movement and its BRING BACK MUH FEELS, like romanticizing premodern history, idealizing rural life, and religious faith.
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Because thanks to Crusaders in the Middle Ages there were no Christians left in Palestine.
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>>1086141
The Spanish and Portuguese were raking in bank from their colonies, and other European countries were expanding around the world, at a time when religion still seemed pretty relevant in the 1600 and 1700s.

It seems weird that nobody thought to invest that wealth and power into liberating the holy sites from the filthy muslims.
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Because nobody really gave a shit about Christianity on a political level and rational state actors won't attack desert shitholes which have nothing to offer?
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>>1086171
>1500's-1600's
Those "Filthy Muslims" were living in a powerful Empire. Ottos only became shit in the 1700's.

And Christianity just broke the fuck up.
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>>1086171
Apparently not to them.

I know it's fun and hip to hate on filthy mudslimes etc, but they were probably a lot more worried with their own neighbors and competitors. (France, Spain, Great Britain, etc.)
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>>1086171
>1600's Christianity
>Doing anything
Murdering each other seems to be the top priority of Christians at the time.
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>>1086183
The crusades was one of the propaganda pieces that the protestants used to badmouth the papacy
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>>1086117
Capitalism gradually eclipsed religion sometime in the 1700s.
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>>1086193
And stablishing trade roots with the the known world,develop modern science,math and phylosophy,while the rest of the world was innovating nothing.
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>>1086260
>And stablishing trade roots with the the known world,develop modern science,math and phylosophy,while the rest of the world was innovating nothing.

See >>1086141
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>>1086171
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_League_%281684%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_League_%281717%29
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>>1086317
>The League's initial members were the Papal States, the Holy Roman Empire under Habsburg Emperor Leopold I, the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth of John III Sobieski, and the Venetian Republic; the Tsardom of Russia joined the League in 1686.

So all the European countries that didn't get on the global expansion train?
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