What was the best ancient Greek state and why was it Corinth?
>>1076863
All those states to choose from and you pick fucking Corinth.
>>1076863
That's a funny way to spell Crete
>>1076863
>Corinth
As always, OP is a faggot.
Chalcidice or bust.
>>1076863
is it hack to say athens?
Athens. Sometimes the boring answer is right.
Argos. They stopped Spartan conquest of Peloponnese in the 7th century and during Peloponnesian War they stayed neutral and created their own alliance for a time as alternative to the Spartan and Athenian ones and almost crushed Spartan dominance other the peninsula.
Argos is the best demonstration of the meme nature of Spartan "war machine" - the regular city kept supposed super solders off for centuries, despite being their closes neighbors, without any meme special training and totalitarian government Sparta had.
>>1076934
Can we all agree Sparta was shit?
>>1076941
Well, there were pretty good at forcing memes.
>>1076863
corinth was pretty based.
cool helmets, sweet vase painting, but WORST column capital.
>>1077120
There's a lot of contrarianism for contrarianisms sake on /his/.
Athens v. Sparta as an analogy for US v. USSR is still taught unapologetically in most political foreign policy and military geostrategy think tanks. The oligarchical naval power with a superior culture vs the backwards authoritarian landbased state. Athens was basically murrica of the period and that in-lies its only flaw.
Obviously it's Thebes. Sacred Band of Thebes fucked Sparta in the ass
>>1076863
The one who defeated Sparta with an army of faggot lovers under the theory that fag couples would fight better was Thebes, so Thebes.
No Pontus love?
>>1077184
Literally and figuratively
>>1076941
Tell that to the Athenians :^)
>>1077172
Honestly I used to hate Sparta purely because of 300 autism, the more research I did on them however the less that was true.
>>1077184
First state ever to defeat a spartan army in pitched battle, and the fuckers were outnumbered too. Butt loving Gods among men
>>1077986
If you can get past the memes they are pretty interesting, but only as much as any other greek polis
Santa Ana held a full military state funeral for the leg he lost
>>1078028
Wrong thread sorry
>>1076863
The Ionian Dodecapolis, of course.
>Colonies from the Caucasus to Iberian Peninsula
>Only commercial competitiors with the Phoenicians
>>1076934
Came here to say this. My one concern is that they aren't sufficiently /meme/.
>>1076863
>not having Arcadia as your favorite
What Is this? Ametuer hour?
>>1078024
Well they were certainly unique in their pursuit of perfection, at least militarily.
>>1077172
You gotta love national-capitalist revisionism
The only answer is Athens. The Spartans were fags who constantly collabrated with the Persians, even the general who won the battle of Marathon tried to lead a helot revolt while dressed like a Persian only a couple of years later.
Although Athens became shitty the other city states were literally who's apart from Macedonia.
tfw no good greek city state simulator video game
>>1080286
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=656921464
>>1080314
>satrap
into the trash
>>1077184
Came here to post this. Closely followed by Syracuse for giving Athens the fuck out of their own history books by
>having more brilliant mathematicians and philosophers than Athens ever had
>being better at building walls
>killing thousands of anally pained thetes while chilling under a bitching oligarchy
>>1076934
Years of being Sparta's only rival in the Peloponnese pretty much makes you a super soldier.
>>1076934
"There are a lot of Spartan graves on Argive land"
"There are no Argive graves on Spartan land"
I read something like this in Plutarch awhile back
>>1076887
Corinth is based, who doesn't like Corinth?
The Ionian League was the best, with Samos being the stand out.
>>1078020
Reading how that battle went is a bit weird as well.
>spartiates on that flank?
>#yolo bumrush them
>spartan colomn engaged by unexpectedly large numbers and unexpectedly heavy casualties inflicted
>forced into a fighting retreat and the king gets killed
>all this before the rest of the lines have even properly engaged each other
>spartan allies more than happy to fall back as well after seeing this and laugh at spartiates while plotting insurrection
Unless I'm mistaking this with another one of hilarious greek battle.
Thebes or Argos, there is no other alternative ( unless we can count Syracuse )
>>1077840
BUT
>>1077172
>think tanks
>having any authority
>>1080286
>Not playing Hegemony Gold
GG Pleb.>>1080286
