Has any nation risen from such irrelevance to such dominance as the United States did pre and post world wars in such a short period?
We didn't so much rise out of irrelevance as we did reverse our former isolationist position. There's a huge difference.
The funniest thing about it is that the Americans were never aiming towards becoming a world superpower. They reached it as a side-effect of being decent, likeable people worthy of trust. Americans are peace-loving people by nature.
>>1072100
Basically this, america had one of the largest economies in the world since the late 1800's
>>1072110
>Americans are peace-loving people by nature
>>1072110
*PATRIOTISM INTENSIFIES*
>>1072092
US was anything but irrelevant or isolationist pre-WWII or even pre-WWI.
>>1072110
Howdy Asian servants, I'm made of carrier groups.
t. Reagan
>>1072092
Rome. Before they ruled the world, Rome was among a few contesting powers, none of which were particularly "great". But after the Punic Wars, Rome became the major regional power standing and the veteran army that the Punic wars produced went and sliced out a massive portion of the world into Roman rule.
>>1072110
>Americans are peace-loving people by nature
>Instances of the United States overthrowing, or attempting to overthrow, a foreign government since the Second World War. (* indicates successful ouster of a government)
China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 *
Venezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
I dont want to sound like im bashing america but to be fair your leadership is far from peace loving and have been acting like world police for a while specially with the recent wars.
>>1073007
It was worth it to win the Cold War, to be honest.
It's not like Western Europe was going to be able to hold back the Soviets.
Post Cold War, you have to suck really badly to actually come into conflict with the US.
>>1073007
What is the role of police? What's that? Is it to keep the peace? Hmm?
The Soviet Union went from being a dream in the process of being fought for and enforced to one of the two greatest super powers in the world in a shorter time than those capitalist pigs in the new world did, Comrad
Also, unlike you, we're coming back, comrade.
>>1072966
>Rome rising
>"short" period of time
>>1072092
Japan is probably the best example I can think of, went from just another random east Asian uncivilized country to a great power within one generation.
>>1073007
You took the b8 m8
It's from a video
>>1073035
>USSR
>coming back
hahaha
Mongolian empire. Literally went from Injun-tier to the largest land empire ever.
>>1073033
Wellll, not exactly always. The role of policing can often be arbitrarily extended depending on the particular power structure of a society.
From secret police who enforce the value system of the ruling class against intrusion or criticism to moral policing to enforce dominant religious opinions to policing fraud and stoping legitimately unlawful crime, policing can take many forms depending on how it is instantiated.
It is misleading to call the us foreign policy world policing, because what the US does is entirely opportunistic and self-interested. The US government (perhaps justifiably, as it is the US government, not the world government) only acts to contain violent or unstable political situations abroad when those events threaten US assets, interests, or citizens operating in that region, or if some other power's intrusions into that region threaten's to undermine US arrangements.
It has nothing to do with keeping the peace. Quite the contrary, in fact.
>>1073508
I was quoting the same video, amigo.
>>1073508
Source on this video?
>>1073550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY
>>1073572
danke
>>1073073
Not him but.
Punic wars: 100 years
1945 to 1812: 133 years
Pretty similar time period, of course they aren't "the same" but you can draw parallels.
>>1072966
Rome was considered a major player as soon as they beat phryhuus.
>>1073483
It has everything to do with keeping the peace. Everything that the US does is for their own self interests, I agree. Doing things for your own self interest makes you stronger. When you have a strong global power it creates peace. Look at what NATO has done for global peace, at least in the West. There hasn't been a war in the West for SO long and it's because of NATO and the super power that is the US government. Have you read Thomas Hobbes's Leviathan? That book explains this concept pretty well except it explains it on the domestic level.
>>1072110
https://youtu.be/4ztOV2wrrkY
Achaemenid Persia, Macedon, the Arabs, the Mongols, Spain, Portugal
>>1072092
Israel maybe? I mean they started from the bottom as Egypt's bitch and shit until you know...the stuff happened that certain hat tipping people say didn't happen happened. Next thing you know, they was Kings and shit and their religion spread all over the globe
Now they got Miss USA suckin their dicks and shit and handing them shit tons of money
