What is the greatest army to have ever existed in the history of humanity?
American military in ww2.
>>1058950
The U.S. army.
>>1058950
"Greatest" relative to others?
Mongols
Can we talk about greatest navies too?
The combined Armed Forces of the United States of America™.
>>1058966
>>1058965
>the largest air force on earth is the USAF
>the second largest air force on earth is the USN
>the largest navy on earth is the USN
>the second largest navy on earth is the US Coast Guard
how can other "countries" even compete?
>>1058975
There's more of those charts for the other branches such as the USMC, but I don't have them.
>>1058980
Its beautiful, right?
>>1058960
This. Aside from their own steppe warfare, they drew on the abilities of conquered peoples across Eurasia so that they drew on the military strength of most of Asia. They took Persian counterweight trebuchets and used them in China, where they'd never been seen before, while using Chinese gunpowder and rockets in the Middle East. For a time they were the most technologically advanced military on Earth.
Also this >>1058952
For a brief period, they had atomic bombs and nobody else did. You can't beat that.
Well the Red Army during WW2 is the largest army in history, by manpower.
the soviet union in the early 80s probably had the most destructive power available
>>1058980
Ask China.
They are the second largest navy and second largest air force. Way bigger than the US coast guard, and and way way more airplanes than naval aviation.
>>1058950
In absolute or relative terms? In absolute, the US military, in relative, maybe the mongols or alexander's greeks
>>1058965
>greatest army
>posts naval vessels
>>1059011
No. Our atomic edge was meaningless 1945-1949 because of lack of bombs.
Nukes didn't even become that important to our overall strategic military design until the late 60's.
The Soviets would have hammered us in Europe until the late 60's when we both gained enough powerful nukes to make it impractical.
>>1059024
proofs
>>1059031
I'm not sure that Unthinkable was entirely unfeasable, but giving the Soviets any real length of time to recover would have made it so.
>>1059057
The projections on unthinkable suggested it was literally unfeasible
>>1059024
>worried about China
>>1059112
this lmao
shitting out a ton of destroyers to keep your manufacturing base from shitting itself isn't exactly grounds for "great".
US military.
No ifs, ands, or buts.
>>1059121
Well, to be perfectly honest... what makes our military so great is not the number of ships, or planes... but the number of fanatical psycho christian retard killing-machines, who are always all too eager to join up.
>>1059152
that too.
we have the experience, the numbers, and the quality.
>>1059152
except theyre not Christian dude lmao
maybe culturally
The United States currently. I can't think of any time in history there was ever such a disproportionate superiority of one nation over all others. Mongols came close, but no cigar.
>>1059159
Fuck, what a curbstomp.
>>1058950
Compared with the other armies of their time it's the German army in WW1.
>>1059024
lol.
You may not believe me when I say this, but I don't really care.
My dad has a friend who works in China's defense ministry (they both were PhD students at BeiDa university in Beijing) as a Major-General and I heard him say at a reunion that China is at least 3 decades behind the US in terms of technology. He said that even if China steals America's latest tech, it'll be outdated by the time they've figured out how to reverse engineer it and apply it to their armaments
>>1059165
A high percentage of US military service men/women are devout christians.
I know... you think you have your own definition as to what makes someone a "christian", because you're obviously one.
>>1059024
>bigger than the coast guard
They outgun the smuggle hunters and dudes who keep us from drowning.
Impressive.
Meanwhile most of their navy is 100% incapable of blue water operation.
>air force
You realize a huge portion of their air force is gen 3 and 3.5 shit, right?
The Chinese air force is MASSIVELY outdated.
1/3rd of their fighters are j-7s. Fucking mig-21s.
>>1059175
This.
The only parts of the world with the educated populace, money, and advanced manufacturing base to compete are convinced war is over.
>>1059206
I can see it.
>>1059217
In that picture, the trail is probably just the fault of shitty fuel or air quality
>>1059233
No.
I can't really blame the PRC for that one though, they were relying on Cold War era Soviet engines.
>>1059233
It's the engines.
They claim they're a "placeholder" for the totally sweet engines that they definitely have the capacity to produce. Soon. Whenever they feel like it.
For real.
>>1059245
Meanwhile they're probably scrambling to find more engines made back when Gorbachev was around because those awful russkie shits burn out so damn quickly.
If you ask the retarded christfag that hangs around /his/, China has fielded an army of 200'000'000
Obviously amerifats
They outspend the next like 8 countries combined in military
>>1058980
Nuclear weapons
>>1059175
>The United States currently. I can't think of any time in history there was ever such a disproportionate superiority of one nation over all others. Mongols came close, but no cigar.
At the peak of their power no military force on earth could threaten them. At best they could slow or divert Mongol aggression. Meanwhile in the age of nuclear weaponry Russia, the EU or even China could deal devestating damage to the US
>>1059427
The Mamluk Dynasty of Delhi stopped the mongels from going into Indian and even grew in the face of repeated invasions.
>>1059427
>the EU
>do devastating damage
>Russia
>do devastating damage
>China
>do devastating damage
haha
no
>>1059159
>experience
>hasn't fought in a major conflict for over 40 years
>>1059455
Here's your (you)
Say something else stupid, maybe someone will give you another
>>1059463
what are they gonna do, nuke us?
>>1059456
As opposed to the rest of the world, right?
>>1059470
No you ditz the point is that nobody is experienced
>>1059474
Any combat experience counts.
Considering the US has been embroiled in fuckfuck games in the middle east for the last two decades, its certainly got more experience than China.
>>1059456
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War
That ended 25 years ago.
>>1059482
Short conflict against a vastly inferior enemy with no risk of defeat
>>1059492
Still combat experience.
>>1059492
>short
Yes
>vastly inferior enemy
Large army that was dug in and battle hardened.
>no risk of defeat
Soviets didn't fucking think so, and American casualty projections were through damn roof.
NOBODY expected such a decisive victory.
>>1059449
Reread the post
"at best they could slow or divert Mongol aggression"
The Sultanate or the Mamalukes had no power to push back to Asia and actually topple them or their key territories
Merica.. Cuz bombs n shit
Can anyone confirm/deny that if the US actually had to engage a nation with an actual airforce they'd just use tactical missile strikes as a crazy flak type defense?
>>1059427
As already stated the Indians stopped the Mongols (thanks Himalayas) and the Chinese also gave them a fight. As for the US, I'm only looking at conventional warfare seeing as nukes arent really present on the modern battlefield.
>>1059121
I dunno, they've made some real progress towards improving their overall military quality.
>>1059466
I see what you did there
>>1058950
The United States Army right now
>>1059968
The United States Army has never won a battle in a day, and that's sad because they're more technologically outfitted than their their victims.
Romans conquered entire civilizations.
Has America? No.
>greatest army ever
>us army
>the same army that get blown the fuck out by vietnamese rice farmers with bamboo stick
fuckin hell
Has America won a single war by themselves in the last 100 years?
Clearly the Romans. They pretty much invented the concept of a professional army.
>>1058950
Soviets during ww2, they would have wiped the floor with the germans if stalin hadent done those retarded purges
Then they did wipe the floor with the germans once they got some victorys and experience under their belts
>>1058950
There is none, they are all small periods of superiority
>>1060146
Could the allies have won the most important war without them?
This talk of the US military has got me thinking of what the third world war could bring about.
Putting aside the possibility of nuclear weapon use, imagine the technological innovation of WW2 in the information era, imagine how many new advancements could be funded and produced throughout a war and their continuation after it ends. I mean, WW2 saw the modern innovations of aviation, armored warfare, medicine and surgery, and nuclear physics/weapons, all funded into the billions in less than a decade. If we don't all get vaporized by WMDs, what technological advancements could the post-WW3 world see?
>>1060560
Yes, granted they would have lost most of Western Europe
>>1060560
Honestly, the Soviets beat Germany and Japan entirely on their own. Not having America or the other Allies wouldn't have made a difference.
>>1058950
The strongest military that this world has seen in action is the Red Army.
United States armed forces, if they were to fully mobilize, would take it's place.
>>1060574
Honestly? Probably something along the lines of Fallout tech
Powersuits, massive increase in nuclear/fusion powered machinery, medical advances along the lines of growing back limbs or organs (we can already do this now, although on a tiny scale), and mechanical combat drones. It would also bring a MASSIVE social change which people don't really take into account often. Just look at how the WW2 generation and the baby boomers changed our social structure. An entire generation of young men (and now women) going through basic training would completely change America's social order.
>>1060139
>this meme still exists
Lrn 2 mltry /his/ fggt
1 2 3 4
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>>1060618
This is a myth, the USSR nearly lost the war despite it's huge manpower advantage, without 1/3 of the Nazi war effort being wasted fighting the Western Allies (and arguably without Hitler's interference) the outcome is by no means certain.
>>1059031
In the 50s we had the nuclear edge. we had bombs to use and the means to hit the soviets with them. the soviets had bombs but did not have the means to hit beyond Europe, Japan, and Alaska.
>>1060139
No, we lost to ourselves. We were pretty much winning the war by the doctrine they were using there, we we even got them to agree to peace by beating the fuck outta them with operation rolling thunder ii. When the north invaded again after we pulled out, the american public wanted nothing to do with it.
>>1058950
Currently?
US armed forces
Historically?
Roman Army. Conquered much of the civilized world at the time, and despite MANY failures and losses, still came out on top. Pretty much invented modern military organization and doctrine. Also extra points for practically every legionary being a construction worker who could build roads and forts while carrying his own shit and being in top shape.
>>1060618
>Soviets beat Japan
Are you kidding?
The best manlet who ever lived.
>>1060042
>The United States Army has never won a battle in a day
But that's wrong.
>>1059152
>thanks to our devotion the lord has blessed us with a fighting spirit capable and destroying all our enemies
God bless this country
>>1059456
Peace through superior firepower
>>1060042
We control Europe don't we
Don't even pretend like we don't
>>1058965
We actually have a ship called the USS America
>>1058950
Heavenly host.
>>1060128
Salty Fog-Breather confirmed.
>>1058965
>USS Constitution
Having a 200+ years old wooden three-mast in active commission is pretty cool.
>>1060734
85%+ of the third reich's forces, including virtually the entire elite SS corps, perished on the eastern front. don't be a revisionist, plz.
>>1060042
>Romans conquered entire civilizations.
>Has America?
Uh, yes, a bunch...
>>1061201
Now bring up the kill to death ratio of the Germans vs the Russians.
>>1061108
>FREEDOM class
>INDEPENDENCE class
I'm literally crying tears of patriotism right now.
I would say england for sheer power and longevity. Neigh unparalleled land and sea power. Then the romans...big on land power and the navy was no push over either. For sheer land power...the mongols.
>>1058950
Schutzstaffel = greatest paramilitary organization ever?
>>1061355
>longevity
>100 years
>expect a thread about Assyrians, Macedonians, Romans, Chinese, Mongols, Ottomans, Portuguese, etc.
>get an American circlejerk instead
Great board.
>>1058950
Soviet Russian post Berlin. Blitzkrieg over Khingan mountains wiped out more Japs than China, Britain and USA did for several years. Americans literally lost more men capturing some rock called Okinawa for 1.5 months than Soviets capturing area size of two Texases with 10 times larger Jap forces in Manchukuo for 11 days.
Operation Unthinkable was called so for a reason.
The fleet - British Imperial, hands down. Absolute shit at naval assault, unsurpassed in open waters fight.
Airforce - modern American, I guess. Russian is kinda cool, but lags behind somewhat, especially in numbers.
My sweet dream is Russian spaceborn corps with Burger air and British sea support, complete with German-Jap war engineer brigades and French-Italian culinary regiment. Fuck all lmaos.
>>1061636
Name one country that can match the US military. Now name one that could win a war without the use of nuclear weaponry.
>>1060580
>yes if you count losing only mostly as still winning
>>1061103
>burgers actually believe this
Maybe if you could pay attention in school without some loner geek shooting the place up you would learn something
>>1061688
I think you missed the point.
>>1061285
you realize this isn't call of duty and russians still had tens of millions to spare right
