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Who lost us our glorious Empire at Waterloo?
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Who lost us our glorious Empire at Waterloo?
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>>1042733
>at Waterloo

Pretty sure the empire was already dead by 1814
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>>1042762
No Empire was alive and stronk until Waterloo (Ney...)
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>>1042771
fucking Ney sending in the Cavalry without infantry support. What a fucking retard.

The real loser was Grouchy who completely failed to delay the Prussians and ultimately cost Boney the battle.

I've seen some historians who say Napoleon could have rallied for another battle near Paris and potentially won but his spirit was broke mes amis. Losing to wellington will do that to you.
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>>1042966
Can we then solely blam Ney and groucho for ruining the world in the centuries to come?
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>>1042972
Ney no. He was legit good but made a mistake.

Grouchy possibly. Just incompetance on his part. Complete fuck up.

Napoleon was right int hinking the whole war could have been won at waterloo. Granted that would have only continued Napoleon's reign but nto restored his empire to its height of power.
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>>1043210
A deadly mistake though.
Without it, Napy could have won without groucho's stupid.
Not to say that Ney was incompetent, as you said he was very good, but a major mistake is a major mistake.
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Nappy was ultimately at fault

there was just no need for

A) Spain
B) Russia
C) Leaving Davout in Paris
D) Unclear orders to Grouchy
F) Not utterly following up and destroying the Prussians
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Also it's worth noting that Napoleon had not fought a general the caliber of Wellington
before
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>>1042972
>and groucho
What did Marx do?
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>>1045457
>A) Spain
Enforcing the Continental System? Realistically, Napoleon had had huge success in Spain in the opening stages, I've read that had he sat it out personally, he could've salvaged Spain.
>B) Russia
Enforcing the Continental System, Russia was the only real power on the continent who could oppose him.
>C) Leaving Davout in Paris
He left the only man he could trust to hold the capital. Had he left someone less trustworthy, he might have won at Waterloo but lost Paris anyway.
>D) Unclear orders to Grouchy
Wasn't his entire campaign based on allowing his Marshals to conduct the war as they wished, so long as it was in line with his overall strategy? What part of "stop the Prussians" was unclear?
>F) Not destroying the Prussians
Maybe, but wasn't he after fighting a string of battles within a few days of each other?
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>>1045777
>he could've salvaged Spain

No, that was lost to the French when they just could not stop being insufferable cockbags to the natives. He should have pulled out of the bleeding ulcer entirely.
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>>1045465
>a general the caliber of Wellington

Top fucking kek
Napoleon did BTFO Blucher and Kutuzov quite a few times, and both were infinitly more competent than Wellington
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>>1042733
The Prussians did most of the heavy lifting throughout the war, so them.
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>>1045465
>A Brit that pretends they won the Napoleonic wars all by themselves.
Now we know where Americans get their arrogance from.
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>>1045943
Yeah, especially in 1806 when they got conquered in 19 days
Us Brits remained unconquered the whole time
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>>1042733
>our
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>>1045922
This.

Wellington is nothing but an Eternal Angolan meme.
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>>1045943
>Prussians did most of the heavy lifting throughout the war

Let's also forget the only reason they put up a substantial amount of fighting before being cucked by France was solely because of British money
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>France and it's "allies"
>Half of those nations declared war on France in the Sixth Coalition
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Beauharnais is my husbando tbqh with you lads.
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>>1047475
>British money
typical eternal anglo, paying others to do the heavy work while taking all the fame at the end.
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