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How did the Superpowers view Jugoslavija?
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The facts;-

>Jugoslavija was borne of a legitimate resistance movement
>After WW2, a disparate nation was born
>Housing, healthcare and education was "free" to the point of use
>The people under Tito's rule were complicit and genuinely content
>Those who weren't (a veritable minority) either fled or went for an extensive holiday to Goli Otok
>Their healthcare was legit world class
>As were their education and engineering program
>Both Superpowers traded with them with impunity
>Under Tito

Jugoslavija was bang on the cotton of the Iron Curtain, yet it never aligned itself with either party.

Why not?

Stalin tried but was rebuked in no uncertain terms. The Americans threw money at them but Tito never capitulated.

What made Jugoslavija such an anomaly?

Was it a case of Jugoslavija being a good nation to deal with (on account of their cynical neutrality)?

Was Jugoslavija too liberal for the Ruskies and too socialist for the Yankees? Thus creating a perfect equilibrium?

Were both USSR and USA frightened of belligerently engaging with Jugoslavija given their conduct in WW2?

Was Tito god incarnate?
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>Were both USSR and USA frightened of belligerently engaging with Jugoslavija given their conduct in WW2?

Predominantly this.

Julius Caesar wanted nothing to do with the Balkans. Genghis Khan, sick fuck that he was, gave the Balkans a very wide swerve.

You do not fuck with the Balkans

Especially a Balkans led by a narcissistic demigod like Tito.

If America went in, it would have made Vietnam or Korea look like a literal picnic. If USSR went in, the troops would pray for Stalingrad.

You can manipulate the Balkans (though that was impossible under Tito) but you can never fuck with them. Because they will kill you to death and not even think about it for a second.

Do not fuck with the Balkans.
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>>1199564
spot the serb
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>>1199564
You might capture and torture them, but you'll nearly die trying. Remember how good old Vlad used to kill muslims for fun?
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>>1199568

Nope.
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>>1199588

Nearly dying is a multi-national pastime.

Weirder still, Croats and Bosniaks are bro-tier compared to the shit flooding into Evrop
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>>1199459
Tito didn't go with Stalin because he wanted power for himself, and USA threw cash his way because they needed all the allies in europu they could get.

Tito was just lucky enough to hit a historical, pollitical and geographical sweetspot for 50 years.
When the Iron Curtain fell USSR wasn't a threat to europe or USA and Tito was 6' under so it all fell appart.
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Very nice.

I struggle to believe that both Superpowers viewed Jugoslavija with fear.

There has to be more depth.
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Juga was shit. We had "free shit" but we also had
>reeducation camps
>prisons for political neistomišljenici
>gas and bread coupons
>all sorts of fucking repression
>Srbi in all political and military positions
>denationalisation in schools
>Tito secretly borrowing massive amounts of franak, funta, dolar and DM to sustain the impossible dream (a debt our grandchildren will still have to repay)
Jugonostalgičari can pretty much fuck off.
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>>1199459
Jugoslavija was never a nation. Jugoslavija was more nations under one banner, acting like buddies although no one really wanted to be buddies. Tito was a glorified dictator of a failing system, something that came to light not long after his death.
Fuck Tito and fuck Jugoslavija.
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>>1199647
>>Srbi in all political and military positions
sounds like heaven
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>>1199671
>serbs in all political and military positions for 50 years
>still lose all conflicts during the Fall of Yugoslavia 1990-1998
Enjoy your 'rich' history, druže
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>>1199647
This.

Being allowed to drive your car only on dates that are the same, in the manner of odd or even, as the last digit of your license plate must have sucked dick.
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>>1199707
That was 80's due to fuel shortage.
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>>1199647
What Serbs in political positions?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Foreign_Affairs_(Yugoslavia)#SFR_Yugoslavia_period_.281945.E2.80.931992.29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Minister_of_Yugoslavia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_of_the_General_Staff_(Yugoslavia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_the_Interior_(Yugoslavia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Defense_(Yugoslavia)
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>>1199810
Fuck off Jovan, we all know how it really was.
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>>1199810
bureaucratic positions and company positions (political companies)
montenegrins got the YNA
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>>1199810
>'What Serbs in political positions?'
>posts lists of generals and feldmarshals involving political positions
Thank you for showing my point
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>>1199459
Fuck off Slavshit, Istria remembers you damn gommies
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>>1199885
A grand total of 2 Serbs on most lists with twice as many Croats on the same lists.
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