How come most philosophers never got married or had children?
It's pretty obvious.
Intelligent people tend to not give a fuck about anything outside of their intellectual pursuits.
>>1027963
>Intelligent people tend to not give a fuck about anything outside of their intellectual pursuits.
I'm sure some virgin is reading this right now and thinking "fuck yea I'm intelligent"
>>1027951
They're bunch of cucks that's what
>>1027967
This. Intelligent people are plenty normie.
Amazing geniuses, though, I can see being much lonelier because they can't find intellectual peers.
>>1028057
>I can see being much lonelier because they can't find intellectual peers
The history of philosophy is full of just that. Descartes, Kant, Nietzsche, Schopenhauer. You could go on for quite a while.
Socrates had two wives and like 9 kids.
>>1027967
>some virgin
try this entire website
>>1027951
Reproduction gets in the way of mental masturbation.
>>1028076
>instead spends all his time asking his manfriends "what is love" in the park
that is some n e x t l e v e l deadbeat dad shit
Socrates and Musonius both were married and had kids. So was Marcus Aurelius, of course.
>>1028076
He did that ironically, haven't you heard of Socratic irony?
Philosophers are extremely cruel, hence why they philosophize. Philosophizing is the act of shaping the world with your mind to fit your own desires and seize power over it.
Basically, philosophers are the most power hungry and intolerable of them all. So of course, very few of them would turn into husbands and parents.
philosophers dont make much money
It's probably the aspergers.
>>1027951
Most philosophers are gamma personalities.
Neither follower nor leader, they go off on their own.
It takes a certain remove from humanity to be able to observe and analyze.
>>1027951
>How come most philosophers never got married or had children?
Nice source faggot.
>>1029053
(Almost) literally no one cites sources when posting on this board. "Citation needed" is almost the equivalent of "cuck" at this point.
>>1027951
Because instincts are a smaller part of their beings, so they don't get tricked into relationships or marriage.
t. Schopenhauer
>>1028338
They get in the way of what really matters. You'll get some butthurt chads in this thread, but if you value sex and breeding then you'll never attain the intellectual life. A way to identify a chad is if they refer to 'success' or respond negatively to my post. They think intellectual success is equal to how many people buy your books. You can ignore them because they have nothing worthwhile to say.
>>1029153
>but if you value sex and breeding then you'll never attain the intellectual life
Total bullshit mate, to attain a truly intellectual life and to be able to fabricate truly viable and rational ideas you need to experience every aspect of human life, or at the very least the basic ones. Sex is one of them, you are just bitter.
And this is coming from someone who hasn't had sex in 19 months.
>>1029153
What is intellectual life worth compared to someone continuing your name ?
I'd rather have descendants than being a footnote in a history book.
>>1027951
>>1029209
t. Chad
>>1029202
> you need to experience every aspect of human life
You don't. For example you can focus on just one field and fabricate viable results here. Not every of viable ideas need to be some theory of everything.
>>1029209
>What is intellectual life worth compared to someone continuing your name ?
why are normies so concerned with this shit?
>>1029202
Experience every aspect of human life is literally impossible for human. Like you can't experience solitude but also experience deep bonds with all your friends. And both are aspects of human life.
>>1029241
In the end it would be the same. You are dead and it doesn't matter for you what would be after you. It is self-delusion at its purest form.
>>1029202
>you need to experience every aspect of human life
As if that was possible.
Plenty of philosophers have wives and kids, as far as the greek philosophers we only have so much info on them, so outside their writings, marriage/dating material doesn't always exist.
>>1029282
Yes, but you have to take into account that in those times you married by talking two times with a chick and one with his father, so the ones who married mean almost nothing, but those who didn't marry are very significant.
>>1027958
I laughed.
>>1027951
they were all massive autists
>>1029241
I've had that feeling from time to time. I'm a result of people fucking each other for thousands of years, I'm a little scared of that line just ending.
For the record I've never had sex.
>>1027967
kek
>>1029153
> If you value sex and breeding then you'll never attain the intellectual life
Not true. It is practically proven that high sex drive is strongly correlated with intelligence by levels of testosterone. Schrödinger literally figured his own equations while on vacations with his old girlfriend and quantum physics is no joke.
Basically it isn't about what you value. Intellectual life is about what you think. If you think only about how to get to girls, relationships or only about sex then there is no hope for you.
But there is no need for that. Most of smart people can value things without being obsessed by desire and blinded by their frustrations.
>born to one of richest family in Europe
>hadsome as fuck, smart as a fox
>give up all the money to brothers and sisters
>fight in ww1 and risk life over and over
>become a philosopher
>slightly gay
>fall in love with a girl but let her know that there will be no children after marriage
What the fuck went wrong?
>>1028073
>Nietzsche
He was actually just a beta that got friendzoned by his crush
>>1029209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tIwYNioDL8
>>1029348
It's your own life nigga, besides you can always have child at your 30
Enjoy being young
>>1028119
And don't we all wish it was otherwise.
>>1029241
>implying normies aren't childless hedonists
Fuck off /r9k/
>>1031406
They are in their 20s. Eventually they knock up some broad or cave into social pressure. Women especially feel less worthwhile if they aren't married with a kid by the time they're 30.
Only the truly enlightened recognize the spook that is family.
>>1029505
It's kinda strange how different Nietzsche's life and philosophy were from each other.
The Overman is the epitome of alpha male, after all.
>>1031431
I think it would have been easy for Nietzsche to embrace some egalitarian ideology to preserve his own ego. He took the harder route, recognizing that being a socially stunted physical invalid isn't the ideal way to go through life.
>>1031450
Props to him, then. Literally the anti-SJW.
>>1029500
>slightly
>>1027951
Socrates was married.
>>1029500
He was likely, and I am being serious here, autistic.
>>1029210
Socrates had two wives that hated him. He put up with them because he loved Athens more than anything and the city forced every able body man to have multiple wives in an attempt to revitalize the population, which had been ravaged by wars. It's probably why he spent most of his day walking about Athens or in the gymnasium.
Because they were all homosexuals
>>1031431
>The Overman is the epitome of alpha male, after all.
two of his overmen are goethe and mozart
>>1029209
exhibit a of a Chad.
in his autobiography Evola says he couldn't find a girl who was traditional wife material so there was no point in trying to make one. He also says that when he was an artist he fucked a bunch of girls without much effort and that made him lose respect for the female gender.
>>1029209
Lineages are overrated, and you or your descendants are likely to get cucked at least once and that's all you need to lose in evolution. Although I want a lineage too, the things of the mind are much more worthy.
>>1029475
This
I'm top in my school as a math major and I'm the only one with a girlfriend
>>1029209
>than being a footnote in a history book.
Achieving this means you've done more for humanity than if you just had a kid, who would most likely live an unremarkable life doing nothing especially meaningful, though.
>>1033126
humanity will die anyway so, what will humanity do for the universe
Anyone else kissless virgin here?
>>1033257
Aye
>>1032748
>anecdotal evidence
>>1033615
>it's an anecdote
>therefore false
Of course the bottom line is how hard you work, but productive people also know how to destress. Only retards and autists think being a retarded autist is the best way to become a mathematician. The desire for sex is strong and having sex clears one mind and lets him focus
Also the most productive mathematician ever, Euler had 11 kids. Dude was always getting it on
in the end philosophy is just escapism for lonely people, like anime
>>1031431
Nietzsche wasn't as weak as people make him out to be. He served in military voluntarily and whatever physical failings he had was due to him going through some illness, was it cholera or diptheria, I can't recall, and him tearing some muscles after an attempt to jump mount a horse. Man also hated what would be NEETs of today and spent much of his free time taking hikes. It's a meme that he was somehow pathetic; his detractors most certainly are, they could scarcely have produced as wildly vitalistic philosophy as he did despite being plagued by illness and having exiled himself and living like a wandering gipsy for much of his later, pre insanity days.
>>1033899
This is what intellectually inferior people believe to justify their suffering.
>>1031423
>the spook that is family.
the spook that is the woman
>>1031431
>It's kinda strange how different Nietzsche's life and philosophy were from each other.
A few virgins understand Women far better than normies who understand women far better than virgin-as--failed-normies
>>1031660
Socrates was a Nationalist?
>>1033912
he had syphillis because he fucked hookers
nietzsche was a lonely, sickly, weak man who literally spent a year living with his friend and his wife as the third wheel because he was so beta.
>>1029500
just goat philosopher things
>>1027951
they thought about it
>>1027951
Some got married, most got kids.
Fuck off reddit.
>>1035510
He made a glorification to life even in his bad conditions.
He isn't a beta.
>>1035593
is that why he had to beg his friends and sister for money his entire life?
He couldn't even support himself, what kind of man is that. That's not a man.
>>1035627
>working
Hi bluepill.
>>1035510
Do you have any proof to your claims besides hersay and old rumours?
>>1035627
>tfw the worth of an individual has any relation with his economic success.
Go back to Facebook you normie.
A great deal of philosophers are introverts, which is precisely what leads to greater questioning of one's self and their place in the world, and so prefer to be alone by their nature.
>>1035688
Normies will defend this.
>>1035688
>we
You're just a cogwheel.
>>1035510
The syphilis thing is a bad meme. He died of a hereditary disorder.
>>1035713
I always laugh when people say this.
Would you call a hunter gatherer a "just a cogwheel?"
The human species needs to procure it's own sustenance one way or another, it is nature's law.
"It is the common doom of man that he must eat his bread by the sweat of his brow, that is, by the sweat of his body, or the sweat of his mind. Every attempt to fly from it, and to refuse the very terms of our existence, becomes much more truly a curse, and heavier pains and penalties fall upon those who would elude the tasks which are put upon them by the great Master Workman of the World."
>>1035742
>procuring your own sustenance means wageslaving 8-5
>>1035788
>he's eluding the tasks put upon him by the Master Workman
>curses, pains and penalties are imminent
also, doesn't have to be wage-labour. by all means be self-employed. do whatever you want just so long as you are surviving by your own merits and not leeching.
>>1035788
1. nice dubs
2. not him
3. procuring your own sustenance means operating within your chosen means to achieve said sustenance; a self-sustaining man isn't a "wageslave" but he still works, whether harder or easier, to sustain himself.
>>1035812
I agree that the less fortunate and less capable should be supported by society.
>>1035805
>do whatever you want just so long as you are surviving by your own merits and not leeching.
Why?
>to work and then die
>not to work and then die
Born to be slaves will defend the former.
>>1035831
Because welfare statism and supporting leeches is a declaration of war on nature.
>"We have heard many plans for the relief of the "Labouring Poor." This puling jargon is not as innocent as it is foolish. In meddling with great affairs, weakness is never innoxious. Hitherto the name of Poor (in the sense in which it is used to excite compassion) has not been used for those who can, but for those who cannot labour—for the sick and infirm; for orphan infancy; for languishing and decrepid age: but when we affect to pity as poor, those who must labour or the world cannot exist, we are trifling with the condition of mankind."
>>1035850
>Because welfare statism and supporting leeches is a declaration of war on nature.
That because you push your own ideology on nature, if somethings happens then its safe to say that is natural
>>1035826
Not society, the family structure. I have no obligation to look out for inferior genetics.
>>1035988
t. Hitler
>>1027951
In ancient Greece, homosexuality was seen as a defiance to the nature, and thus, marked the superiority of the man over nature. I remember their preference for young athletes and boys over women. Same goes for Romans to a degree. So that makes homosexuals societally superior to heterosexuals at that times.
>>1027958
>i say that everything belongs to me already, i've merely to attain power over it
That's great
>>1028338
hopefully this is bait
can't even begin to..
