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ITT: Empires/Kingdoms which were once huge and powerful and feared worldwide that are now dying or irrelevant
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>>1191419
> If the British Army landed in Europe, I'd get the Belgian police to arrest them
>t. Bismarck
Not really that feared
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>>1191426
>Haha those Brits are pussies!
>lose two wars to Brits
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>>1191430
>British """"""Empire""""""""
>Wales, England
>Scotland which almost voted to leave
>A tiny corner of Ireland, an island which has never once had a generation which hasn't witnessed at least one anti-uk uprising since they first set foot there
>Some irrelevant islands dotted around the globe

GG
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>>1191430
>Brits got BTFO both times and needed to get America to come in and save their asses for them
>Brits try to steal the credit and insult Americans for "stealing the credit" when America was literally the only reason they won at all
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>>1191419

Spanish, french, german, uk, and japanese or chinese. Probably portuguese and dutch empires too.

I would say those were somehow huge, feared and powerful. The rest werent or even the country core doesnt exist anymore.
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>>1191430
With the help of France,Russia and The US,not much of an acomplishment. 1v1 Britain could do nothing to Germany. Bismarck was right,the Brittish empire was a titan with the feet made of mud. A small storm could make it crumble.
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>>1191436

Britain only became an Empire after it conquered India.

>German "empire"
>only has Germans living in it
>not even all the Germans, just some of them

Top cuck.
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>>1191452
>China
The only major bit of China missing from the old empire (the last dynasty at least) was Mongolia. And the useless bit of Mongolia at that.

Also calling Germany, France, China, UK, and Japan as "irrelevant" is a big fucking claim.
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>>1191467
Can't really argue with that. Not german, though. Thankfully.
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>>1191419
Literally the entire world excluding the US
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WE WUZ RHOMAIOI
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>>1191467
It had Poles
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>>1191440
hmmm

>Allies winning WW1 by 1917, German U-boats continue to sink American ships in the Atlantic
>USA decalires war and joins the winning side in April 1917, Germany surrender a year later
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Everyone gets really buttpained on /his/ whenever Britain is mentioned

pretty sure we are all just hipster historians desu
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For fuck's sake, the first 3 rows of Google image results for them is just deserts, camels, and herder huts
GodDAMMIT Genghis Khan, why were you and your people so retarded?
The flag looks cool at least
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>>1191419
Britain is the only example of history making me physically feel sadness. From owning the whole world to being sissy mudslime bitch.
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>>1191626
Why are you pretending to know about history?
Of course you don't get anything googling for mongolia, the successors of the golden horde are russia, uzbekistan, kazakstan, etc.
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>>1191626
>implying mongolia is successor of the empire
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>>1191667
Considering Russians aren't ruled by a Khan and Non-Mongol Central Asians refer to the Mongols as foreign peoples: big no.

Hell you mentioned Kazakhstan. Their national narratives revolve around "SERIOUSLY FUCK MONGOLS, FUCK THEM TO HELL," and cheering at Mongol subjugation by Romanovs and the Qings.
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>>1191695
You're making shit up.

t. lives in kazakhstan
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>tfw you look at Rome now and it stills bears the name of one of the most glorious, colorful, funny empires to ever grace humanity
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>>1191695
None of what you're saying makes any fucking sense.
Central Asians refer to the mongols as foreign peoples because the empire was called the Golden Horde and that's what everyone in central asia calls it. Mongols were only a part of it, as well as many other tribes and confederations. Actually, even saying "mongols" is incorrect in this context, since mongols are a confederation of various tribes, just like all the other steppe states.

Second there is no animosity between kazakhs and mongols because their states were politically isolated from each other for hundreds of years now.
The kazakh khanate was formed in 15th century, so there wasn't even a kazakh national identity until then. As they were a collection of various tribes and confederations, it's wrong to assume everyone in kazakhstan would share the same views on mongolians, as each tribe has its own history, ethnicity and identity.
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>>1191899
>Golden Horde
Nice lecture
Central Asia was split between the Golden Horde and the Jaghatai Khanate.

And then those two collapsed at some point. Jaghatai was replaced by the Four Oirats, who were replaced by the Dzungar Khanate.

And Kazakhs hated the Dzungars.
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>>1191667
>the successors of the golden horde

The golden horde was probably the shittiest of the mongol successor states.
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>>1191910
>Dzungars.
Who were a confederation of various tribes with their own identity, and making sweeping generalizations like "kazakhs hate mongols" is incredibly ignorant.

Fuck, the kazakh khanate itself had many mongol tribes and one of the largest ethnic groups in modern kazakhstan is a mongol tribe.
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>>1191667
>The Mongol Empire emerged from the unification of nomadic tribes in the Mongolia homeland under the leadership of Genghis Khan, who was proclaimed ruler of all Mongols in 1206
I never said anything about the successors, I'm just upset a nation that spawned such a powerful warlord fell into obscurity, and rather quickly. And for the dumbest reasons, too
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Spain and Portugal

t. Spaniard
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>>1191419
I like the british empire, but it feels like they only got so large because they could conquer ppl that were far worse than they were. It's not as impressive as the mongolians or the romans in the sense that they never really met their match and held big territories in europe, and when they finally met their match they got fucked pretty hard. I mean yes, they did defeat Napoleon but only with massive coalitions as support.
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>>1191430
>>1191610
>>1191639
Average Briton
You don't even want to see the Anglo women.
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>>1191430
>Haha those frenchies are pussies!
>lose five coalition wars to the french
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>>1191419
Joshua on a mummy loving bicycle.
Leave Europe.
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>>1191530
>This triggers the German
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>>1191419
Desperate times for Europe.
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I would say Spanish Empire under the Habsburgs at its height.
If Philip II fucked up badly though.
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>>1191419
YOU FEAR US SO!
WHY?
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>>1193051
Indians had guns and remember Britain was fighting other European countries for colonies

See Seven years war in regards to Canada, whoever won that got Canada, it's more than just shooting natives
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