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Is the only possible outcome of the modern economic capitalist system we live in a total failure? Will it ever work properly? Will we actually be able to 'make' money? Instead of simply moving it and creating debt? What will the crash look like? First world nations reverting to third world?
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>>1010638
Everything is destined for failure, but you can't determine whether something is a failure if it's based on lies anyway.
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>>1010638
>Will we actually be able to 'make' money?
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>>1010638
>Is the only possible outcome of the modern economic capitalist system we live in a total failure?

No

>Will we actually be able to 'make' money? Instead of simply moving it and creating debt?

What do you call the kilotons of manufactured goods and megatons of raw materials we've extracted?
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>Will we actually be able to 'make' money?

Lefties are this retarded
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>lefties don't understand that the only reason we're in debt is because of their welfare state
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>>1010638
>actually make money
Capitalism is the most profitable economic system ever implemented with nothing else is even in the same ballpark.

You can argue it's unsustainable but you'd be a special kind of idiot to not see how much it produces.
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>>1010691
They are not 'making' money though. Apart from maybe manufacturing where you turn something of a lesser value into something more (along the lines of alchemy), money does not have that value, money has the value it was given ,it's not a physical standard it's an ideological standard, it's not like when gold was used to buy things.

>>1010699
>filling a debt hole with more debt is making money
Really, now?

>>1010790
>being this ignorant
>implying it's not the job of the govt to look after it's citizens
>implying it's not a multitude of other factors driving America into debt
>implying this is the point
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>>1010834
Fiat currency works because the inherent value of the currency comes from the ability to do business in the economic system that uses the currency.

Dollars are worth something because America can provide goods and services that you need dollars to get.

So yeah, it's a pretty good system. Vastly superior to precious metals, I'd say.
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>>1010638
money only represents value, it doesn't have one. that increasing amounts of value are represented by it means something's working.

debt is just a clever way to give people with means to use capital but no actual capital the tools they need to create value.
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>>1010834
Money is only given value based on what people assign to it, but by the same token, growth can be measured as the added value relative to another commodity.

In laymans terms: making money
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