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This is bound to happen eventually anyway.

Let's try to actually discuss this conflict from a historical rather than factional point of view.
This thread is not for discussing who is right or wrong, only for what actually happened.

As an opener here is a map of jewish ownership with the UN partitionplan superimposed from 1949
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Too big filesize for 4chan.
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What does his think about edward said and orientalism?
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>>391813
>what actually happened
A bit broad, what exactly do you want to talk about?
Also, I don't think you'll get a neutral perspective, for some reason, everyone has a dog in this fight.
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>>391845
A reactionary shill that targets a western leftist audience.

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Can we get another Aesthetic people of history thread?
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>>391271
Æsthetic and "good looking" are different. I don't think Camus made any particular contributions to æsthetics.
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>>391296
I means good looking to /fit/izens
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>>391296
Aesthetic is commonly used on 4chan to mean good looking, or appealing visually.

The fourth beast is Islam

Prove me wrong

>inb4 Daniel 2
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>>390996
Muslims don't have steel teeth. That's a church lie. Go to bed.
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>>390996
>Christians believe this.
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>>390996

You got this from a book with a sea monster in it didn't you?

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How much *positive* impact did Italy contribute to the Axis' war effort in WW2?
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>>390915

They kept large scale British shipping out of the Mediterranean until 43, as well as soaking up some of the strategic bombing that otherwise would have been diverted elsewhere.

And, don't forget, for most of Rommel's victories, about 2/3-3/4 of his troops were Italians, and he got them to fight pretty well.
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>>390915
They couldn't even defend their homeland
>>390936
Hello Mario
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>>390915
Italy literally cost Axis the war.

The idea that the invasion of Russia was a catastrophic failure and a mistake is a myth. It is 1250 kms from Warsaw to Moscow and Operation Barbarossa made it to within 25 kms, the Germans managed to encircle Leningrad and Stalingrad for a while, though they were pushed back after Stalingrad it wasn't until late 1944 that the line collapsed. It is completely feasible that if Germany had a little extra push they could have at least stabilized the front in the east and made it impossible for the Soviet Union to recover, if not collapsing the Soviet Union, claiming the oil wells in the caucasus and other objectives.

The most notable opportunity for this "extra push" was avoiding delays to the start of Operation Barbarossa, delays caused by Italy's failed invasion of Greece which forced Hitler to divert resources to the Balkans campaign while simultaneously repositioning troops from the invasion of France and supplying them. Had this not happened, Germany would have had an extra few crucial months before the Eastern European mud season and Russian winter, certainly enough to begin the battle of Moscow which Hitler would have devoted the entire German war machine into and could be supplied more easily than the battle of Stalingrad.

Italy was not a poorly developed country, it was wealthier than say Romania which provided crucial support on the Eastern front. Italy had equipment and training that rivaled Germany, the UK and France. There is no explanation for Italy's dismal performance in the war other besides something inherent in their character which caused them to develop fantastic dreams of restoring the Roman empire then speedily surrender 10000s of troops and overthrow their own government when it went a little wrong.

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Is this picture fake?
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Edited to hide his pox scars as I recall.
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>>389861
Yes.
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>>389869
Yeah, this.
He had pox as a kid, and had scars because of it, those were removed from the picture.

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ITT: people who didn't deserve it

entire family, even the qt princesses, dragged into a room and mercilessly shot to death by bolshevik filth
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>>389104
The political logic was undeniable though.

Damn shame, he should've passed up that crown and become a full time family man before 1914. Guy was a pretty awful Czar, but by all accounts a top-tier husband and father.
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>>389104
Boo fucking hoo
Do you honestly expect anyone to reasonably care about one family in 1918, when both WW1 (which caused 18 million deaths) and the Russian Civil War (which led to 9 million deaths) were simultaneously happening? Yeah, just focus all your mourning on the people who actually needed to/deserved to be killed.
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>>389104
He would not spend his time in petty wars with rising and dying countries, and would had probably crushed the Khazarian powered revolutions.

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What sort of historical artifacts does /his/ have at home?

>I have assorted coins back home.
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>>388904
Some NSDAP pins and badges I bought in Germany. You can get this in some second hand stores or at weekend markets.
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My mom has a spanish edition of Don Quixote from 1713 and other valuable french and spanish books.
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>>388904
I have a red army parade/officer's sabre on my mantelpiece, because fucking swords.

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what went wrong?
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>Democracies cannot start wars
It was doomed from the start
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>>388707
That's a really fucking stupid mechanic.
How's the game aside from it? I don't really know HoI, I usually play CKII, EUIV and VicII.
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>tfw its basically a moba now

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So my western civilization teacher just called Louis XVI a kek, do you think this is true?
I agree the guy was a bitch.
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Worst king to ever live.
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He was a decent king, to be honest. He was just there at the wrong time. Wealthy bourgeoisis just wanted to seize power.
Your teacher is an idiot, and so are you, otherwise you'd be studying something useful that would provide you with a job.
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>>388628
We know for fact that Marie Antoinette had an affair with a Swedish officer, that started in the early 1780s. Whether she gave birth to him or not we can say for sure. Anyway, the Queen's sexual misbehavior was an incredibly popular meme in pre-Revolutionary France, so the notion that her children were bastards did fit into it very nicely.

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So what is the difference between Justice and Vengance?
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>>387590
Justice is impersonal. Some asshole is just following orders.
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Justice is seen as an objective punishment, while Vengeance is seen as subjective. Justice is done through systems and people before being finalized while Vengeance is seemingly sudden done through a single person or a small group of people.

A person is found to be a rapist, evidence is sought after, and trials are held. That is considered justice.

A person bitter at the rapist from first hand or from seeing the aftermath either kills them or rapes them with objects. That is seen as vengeance because you are taking it upon yourself to deal the punishment.

Justice...
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There is no difference. Stupid amerburgers didn't understand that you could have a justice system without the need of revenge (safety, rehabilitation) so instead they tried to justify revenge by pretending its something different that is noble.

That's today burgers still sperg out over "muh justice must be done" with capital punishment and shit, while aryans just throw people into prison to protect society, everything else is irrelevant.

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What do you know about Imperial Ethiopia
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>>386958
I mean depends on what exactly, token Beta Israeli American here.

What do you want to know?
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>>386968
Oh and proofs + shag sameach too
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>>386958

i know ethiopia was one of the longest lasting civilisations in the known world, that they left huge ammounts of proof of this, structures, monuments, inscriptions, are mentioned in many ancient texts as such etc... but for some reason no one mentions them, insted its all EGUPT WUZ BLACK

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Why did America historically have such poor public transportation policies? Because of fears of socialism?
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>>386895
I dont know if its true but I heard that the detroit motor companies deliberately sabotaged plans for streetcars, trams etc
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>>386895
Because look at a map, you stupid fucking yuropoor. You guys have five cities within 200 miles.

We have two cities within 500 miles. Our public passenger train system constantly operates at a loss because it can't compete with the airlines. Just, Jesus Fuck, stop thinking that we're like you.
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>>386931
What about high density areas like the northeast?

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It' 1939, you just woke up as Hitler.

How do you save the Third Reich from losing WW2 and also your own life?
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>>386606
Not go to war
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>>386606

not invade Russia

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>>386606
>take mainland Europe and quit while you're ahead
>do not blitz Britain, make it clear you have no interest in attacking their colonies
>keep strong defences on the Soviet border but do not attack (this was their biggest miscalculation, Germany actually ended up with less food imports than they'd been getting via trade, when a major reason for attacking was to improve Germany's food supply)
>stay...
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Did you ever have *that* conversation with your parents, /his/? About what it was like to live in the Cold War and with the Soviet Union?

What did they tell you?
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>>382167
It was cold
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Not my mother, but one of her friends lived in Ukraine during Soviet rule. Said it was awful, crime ridden and never enough food to go around. They eventually moved to East Germany and escaped from there, how they did it I have no idea because it's not a topic I bring up.
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No because the only connection between my family and USSR is that my grandfather was in the war keeping those fuckers out of our country

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Is this man a top-tier historian?
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>>385428

yes

>that sweet Georgian accent
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>>385440
I still laugh thinking about his rebel yell impression in the Ken Burns doc
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>>385440
He's from Mississippi

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