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Did God create other humans before Adam and Eve?

It states in the Bible God created them male and female in reference to creating man. The Bible then states that God created Adam, Eve and the "animals" AFTER creating man. When Cain was banished he replied "Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.".

Who exactly would slay Cain if the only people on Earth...
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>>541438
It is universally known that Adam was the first man and Eve the first woman. It is therefore generally accepted that Cain married Eve (after Adam died) or a (partial) sister. The old testament is full of incest so it's not all that bizarre in the overall narrative.
Most likely Cain's brothers were set on revenge for Abel's murder. However the bible says Cain was marked so he would not be killed.
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>>541438


>Did God create other humans before Adam and Eve?
Yes, Adam and Eve were only considered to be the ultimate ancestors of Abraham, and thus the Hebrew people by its original authors. "Adam was DA FIRST PERSON EVAR" came later.
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>>541486
The middle east is still full of incest, if anything it just makes it more believable.

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If God is real why does he allow deformed babies to be born?
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>>539748
because he can bring a good from deformed babies
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>>539748
He has a wicked sense of humour
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Some are born as eunuchs, some have been made eunuchs by others, and some choose not to marry for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.

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Why does nearly everyone on this board consider the French Revolution more significant to world history than the American Revolution? Without the success of the American Revolution the French Revolution wouldn't have happened.
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>>538520
Not sure what you're getting at.
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>>538516
American revolution is as significant to world as 80 years war.
It resulted in introduction of new big power on the international stage.

French revolution was the outburst of three forces that shaped, and will continue to shape the world long after all those powers will be gone. Nationalism, liberalism and socialism.
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>>538516

The French Revolution is up there with the Reformation as one of the most significant events in European history.

The American Revolution had little impact other than bankrupting France and so accelerating the trouble there

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How much did ancient people know about the people who came before them? How far back into history were they aware of?
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Oral tradition gets you far
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>>538244
I would say not at all. The Celts, Latins, Germans, Slavs and Hellens seemed to have no clue that they were only a couple hundred years away from being the same group of people that spread across europe.

Even later on when the Romans realized how similar their religion was to the greeks and other groups they only ever thought it was because the pantheon was real and they had different names for them
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>>538244
The ancient humans had a cyclical model of history. This is evident in the texts of virtually every ancient, civilized race.

The Hindus traced man’s descent across four ages or yugas, from the age of Truth (Satya Yuga) to the Dark Age (Kali Yuga), with the series comprising a single Great Age (Mahayuga).

The Hellenic Hesiod, in his Works and Days, described the procession from a Golden Age to Silver, Bronze, and Iron Ages, which corresponds to the Persian rendition of the cycles. The Old Testament reveals...
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I need books about middle east and west relations

bonus points if:

Related to Iran
Related to recent history(1900-today)
Introduction to islam expansion over the middle east throughout history
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>halp i'm writing a paper and need sources because i'm too lazy to do my own research
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>>537448
not writing a paper, im just genuinely interested in middle east and west relations.
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>>537404
Persian here.

In short, this wave of terrorism and "conquering" of Europe and North America by Islam can be blamed on: The English, The Americans, and the French.

Iranians were fed up by massive westernization of Iran that was happening under the Shah. They sought solace under Khomeini as he appeared to be a moral, religious man who was basically a Liberal. He had a "take from the rich and give to the poor" attitude. This couldn't be farther from the truth. Anyway... Mosadegh...
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I'm doing a report on the breakup of Yugoslavia and was wondering if anybody could describe why exactly there was so much conflict in the 90s
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>>537083
After Tito died, a rotating presidency was set up and ethnic tensions of old reflared. The Serbs turned Kosovo and Vojvodina into autonomous regions because of all the ethnic minorities there, which gave the Serbs 4 seats in the presidency (the also have Montenegro). In response, the other republics began to become more secession minded, which caused a feedback loop that pitted the Serbs against the other groups. This tension was strongest in multi-ethnic Bosnia, and eventually war broke out when Slovenia, Macedonia,...
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Imagine Lebanese civil war, but with less fractions, more coordinated ethnic cleansing, foreign power interests ( because its in Europe ) and perhaps the best pillaging of any socialist country in their transition to a democracy ever. In the privatization that followed every ex-yu state was sacked. Criminals were given military equipment and former communists have split up in new parties. So, 26 years after the star of the war, imbeciles and now sons of imbeciles govern each of the states with massive and extremely porous goverment administrations. Of course, Slovenia didnt...
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OP here, is this a good documentary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt5n2381Fzc

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Red-pill me on Vatican 2.

What exactly did it change? What should I know about it as a Catholic born well after it, not knowing how things were before the council.
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>>537048
It made some Catholics experience cognitive dissonance about whether or not Papal Infallibility still stood, or if they were able to ignore V2.
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>>537048
>red pill me

Into the trash it goes.
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>>537048

Liberalized the Church for the Sexual Revolution

Allowed Jews to dictate the terms of it.

Basically it is the Americans and Jews ensuring their degenerate new world is not rebelled against by Catholics.

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Can someone explain how this happened? Specifically, the whole roman legion-esque, po-faced orderliness of nazi germany?

I find it really hard to fathom that this existed in the same reality.


Is it because it's been both mocked and used as a prime example of evil and today's societies strive to not be like that? Did the Nazis look 'evil' when they came about?

Was Germany just crazy zimbabwe-tier at that time and the Nazis were just more wackiness?
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demagoguery combined with the prussian tradition of unconditional obedience and militarism
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>>536820

Well, it is a long story, but there are tons of factors which played into the whole thing.

Believe it or not, but Germany always has been extremely militaristic before WWII, coming from the Holy Roman Empire, being a broken mess of a country for as long as everyone remembered before WWI, being involved in territorial struggles between landlords for way longer than any other European state. That was interconnected with the small man in Germany being extremely small on the grand scale, always suppressed and...
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>>536820
> Did the Nazis look 'evil' when they came about?
For a lot of people. A lot of people can't even accept today that something as horrible happen, just like there was a lot of people doubting what the Red Khmer did truly could have happen.

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Did they deserve the end they got?
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>>536789
>Thousand of soldiers die in the civil war
Well war isn't always nice
>a family of ""'noble""" die
WHAT ? How could you ?
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yes

>>536814
this
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>>536818
>>536814

I want bolshecucks off my board, go to leftiepol you leftist parasites

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"Let the boy win his spurs."
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"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
-Niemöller
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"I can make this march, and I will make Georgia howl!"

- William Tecumseh Sherman
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win - Me

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What strikes me as weird is that Christianity was soundly defeated, from an intellectual point of view, by the greatest minds of the 18th Century, yet Christians are so deaf to the arguments that atheists have to keep repeating them over and over to this day, and Christians still force them to keep running over them again and against and again.
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Christians just retreat to a point where they are untouchable in philosophical terms and then sneer at atheists because "lol ur so dumb u think u can prove god doesnt exist". When in reality the "god" they are arguing for is little more than a philosophical abstraction at this point, and certainly has fuck all to do with the god of the Bible

this has been the real victory against religious types, to push them to a point where they can no longer claim that the creator of the universe is giving them instructions on how to live without being laughed out...
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>>536767
Any belief outside of solipsism is faith based and an ideosyncratic abstraction. Prove me wrong
>protip you can't
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>>536743

It was soundly defeated way before that.

A large subset of Christians are just undebateable, and will cling to the notion that Christianity is true even if they have to deliberately distort evidence in order to do so.

For instance, take the second verse of the first Gospel, Mark.

The original Greek very deliberately says "As the prophet Isaiah said", and then goes on to quote a different prophet (Malachai). Oops.

So what to a lot of Christians do? They just edit the Gospel....
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I have a question

Why is hitler regarded as the most evil dictator and the prime example of how bad humanity can get, when people in his own time period and before him were even worse?

Mussolini and Stalin both surpass him in their kill counts, Mao killed 40 million chinese, there's even that one british guy that managed the african genocide and enslaved everyone he didn't kill, and I was never even taught his name.

So, why? Was it because of his methods?
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>>534850
because he killed the jews
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He started WWII.
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>>534850
Because he was the bad guy.
Same with Osama.

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How did you start getting into History? What led you to pursue this in spite of all good sense far deeper than anyone else would ever bother?
It can be as stupid and vain as you want.

I'll start with silly
I got into History through the Civilization games and Total War
I always thought Babylon was rad so I read up as much as I could. Then eventually bled into Japanese history through Shogun II

And you!?!?
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Probable autism and an inability to connect with young peers so I thereby sought to find connection and emotional intimacy through learning about people long dead,
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>>534782

Game of Thrones (inb4 pleb). I got interested in the books, which led me to grand strategy games (CKII-EU4) which got me into actual history.

I didn't realize I was horny for history until I read about Scipio and Hannibal and no one knew what the fuck I was talking about. Thank you based generals. Now studying history in college and enjoying it.
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>>534824
This

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What's your favorite ancient civilization?
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The Babylonians.

>Inb4 "for reking the jews"
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The Persians

>inb4 "for reking the babs"
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Minoans

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Can someone name a single good thing that has emerged from this godforsaken place in its entire miserable history?
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franziska facella
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the printing press
serious continental philosophy
lots of nobel prizes
the reformation
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engineering

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