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Who were the historical equivalent(s) to ISIL?

I want to say The Spanish Inquisition. But that's a pretty unoriginal and flaccid choice.
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>>1372774
Maccabees? Sicarii and Zealots in the 70AD Jewish Roman war.
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Shit there's really too many to name, which says a lot about the human condition. But just off the top of my head:

The Waffen-SS, and more notoriously the Einsatzgruppen and Ordnungspolizei.

The Belgians in the Congo. ("I don't care how many baby hands it takes, deliver the ivory!")

The Red Guards in China.

Saint-Just's Terror in France.
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>>1372851
Nah, none of those were trying to state build in their own name. They all did awful things to people, but the intention was different.

I'm having a little trouble thinking of any group that was motivated by religion alone or at least primarily that waged war on everyone around them in order to build a state.

Possibly some of the more radical protestants during the reformation. Most of the time it's the states all ganging up on relgious minorities who just want to be left alone. Not the minority...
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>Yezhov, one of the most bloodthirsty people of Stalin's regime
>151 cm height, so short that he wasn't allowed to serve on the frontline

Now I'm not implying anything but surely there must be some kind of correlation.
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>>1384012
Danny DeVito is 147 cm, for comparison.
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>>1384012
There's a good Yezhov quote that displays his attitude towards state security: "When you chop wood, wood chips fly." I can see why a short guy would think this.
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>>1384053
That's a common Russian saying similar to "you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs", not something he invented.

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Is collective security still applicable today?
Is there a historical precedent for the diplomatic system in place currently? Thoughts?
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Collective security as long since been superseded by mutually assured destruction.
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>>1383649
Yes, but mutually assured destruction is only applicable to countries with such means, and many of them are content to not expand their borders or seek further control, with the obvious exception of Russia. Adding to that, MAD has done little to curb Russian expansionism; in other words it isn't a viable alternative due to its consequences, and as such isn't really relevant.
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>>1383680
whoops forgot china too

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Why didnt the russian empire convert the baltic peoples and the finns to orthodoxy, especially when they led missions into siberia to convert the native peoples there?
Also why didnt it or the USSR make the balts use the cyrillic alphabet like they made the central asian and caucasians to do it?
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> finns
They tested liberal ideas on them. Finland got the pretty good autonomy rule as part of Russia and even the kind of constitution.
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>>1383406
But the rule of russian empire was supposed to be incredibly brutal and the embodiment of evil.
Many finns told me this.
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>>1383415
The *real* brutality was somewhere else.

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What has carthage lost all their naval battles against the Romans ?
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The roman strategy of getting stuck in with boarding tactics was easier to implement compared to the carthaginian ramming tactics. Also, ramming tactics require skills so whenever carthage lost ships their fleet gradually become less effective while the romans were getting better and better at boarding.
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The Romans actually lost every naval battle until they reversed engineered Carthaginian ships and added boarding planks.

Rome knew they couldn't match carthage at Sea, so they turned every naval battle into a land battle.
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>>1383736
The corvus was a motherfucker of an invention. Romans were damn good at turning weaknesses into strength

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Was the gladiator thumbs-down a real thing or made up?
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What pollice verso actually means is the subject of scholarly debate that isn't concluded yet.

>it is uncertain whether the thumb was turned up, turned down, held horizontally, or concealed inside the hand to indicate positive or negative opinions
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I've read someplace about a thesis that the Arena killing choice contested the Bread and Circus theory since the Arena was a highly democratic event and almost everyone "voted" the life of the gladiator.

Thumbs up: Execute
Thumbs down: Sheathe weapon

The thesis also said that gladiators were very expensive so they wouldn't kill people all the time. In fact gladiator tombstones often said that they lived to old age.
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>>1383088
>In fact gladiator tombstones often said that they lived to old age.
Wouldn't that be due to only gladiators who won their freedom being able to afford tombstones? I doubt a slave would get anything more than a mass grave.

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Why did communism was so historically popular anyway? Everyone could see how flawed idea is, like from the get-go. Surely people followed it for something more than pure naïveté of believing in the heaven on the earth.
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>>1382927
Well after the Communists sorted themselfs out and the first five year plans started rewing up the indstrialisation, it seemed like communism was a great alternative to capitalism (which itself just crashed horribly).
Additionally it was crazy popular in the third world because a backwards (or at least perceived as such) country like russia managed to become the worlds second greatest power in a mere 20-30 years. Also keep in mind that planning and 'forced' industrialisation did work reasonably well for...
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>>1382927
That's only true for poorpost colonial states
Communism took over using military power
People were scared of communism
Poles in east Prussia in 1920 voted to stay with Germany ,a country where they were second class citizens because they didn't want to join with Poland as they feared soviet control that much
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>>1382927
Bolshevism isn't everyone's idea of Communism. You should understand that before you try to work out anything else.

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Seeing as Britain has decided to leave the EU, does this not make them part of Europe anymore?
Are we seeing the start of a brand new continent?
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No, fuck off.
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>>1382924
FPBP
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>>1382913
pls fuck off nigger

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Cringe thread.
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How can history be cringe? Is this some sort of meme for historians? I always feel so dumb when visiting this board but I can't stop for some reason.
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I cringe every time i look at photos of jewish ghettos in europe during the 1930's because i know every single one of these goy-opressed chosenites would later on have been turned into lampshades and soap
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>>1383548
good goy that sounds horrendous!

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Is achievement in any endeavor in life, the only way to attain immortality?

Reason I'm asking is, if you think about it, it is quite uncanny that Stirner is a meme, and Shakespeare is still recited on a stage after 400 years, and the Greeks are still read widely.

How do you think Stirner would've reacted if he knew people 150 years later would be using his ideas every day to score cheap points over layers of global electric tubes projected on to a screen?

Isn't this a form of immortality? I mean, the guys are still dead, but their mind still...
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>>1382539
Nothing is immortal. Even Shakespeare, Ovid and Homer will be forgotten and swallowed by time eventually.
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>>1382546
You really think so? Even with all the tools we have that preserves knowledge?
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No, having kids is

Post creepy people from history. This guy was pretty much what would happen if someone worshipped Khorne in real life.
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Requesting that weird french guy who could eat everything all the time during some war. I forgot his name.
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>>1382524
Tarrare
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>>1382497
Not history but I once met a girl's vagina that would be an avatar of Nurgle.

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Hey, can christo-/his/'s collective knowledge help me with something?

I once read a quote by an Indian or eastern Asian (don't remember it exactly) Guru/ Priest/ Spiritual teacher, that said something along the lines of, that people should follow their own western philosophies/ religions/ teachers, instead of making pilgrimages to the east.
Does anyone know who said that? It would be very helpful for something I want to write...
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The Dalai Lama said :
People from different traditions should keep their own, rather than change. However, some Tibetan may prefer Islam, so he can follow it. Some Spanish prefer Buddhism; so follow it. But think about it carefully. Don’t do it for fashion. Some people start Christian, follow Islam, then Buddhism, then nothing.”

https://zenit.org/articles/dalai-lama-asks-west-not-to-turn-buddhism-into-a-fashion/

Is that what you are thinking of?
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>>1382875
I think what Lhamo here's getting at is that there is indeed a difference between some clueless Buddhaboo taking no home traditions into consideration before seeking elsewhere and finding the traditions that you're born in wanting after exploration and then seeking elsewhere.
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>>1382460
>From the Article "Resemblances Between the Buddhist and Roman Catholic Religions."
"The Tibetan lama listened respectfully to the Jesuit priest [Father Huc] and replied, "Your religion is the same as ours.
>The Atlantic Monthy (Dec 1870)

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How true is this image?
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>>1382397
There weren't any dinosaurs and the numbers are disproportionate.
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what is poland doing?
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>>1382397
Italy's dinosaur is bigger than Japan's, how laughably inaccurate.

> What is consciousness? What is a true awakening? That's a complex question but it's really simple when you look at through a historical-cultural lens. Consciousness is our entire cultural genetic experience as a specie is stretching back into the mist of time through our instincts and through our genetics up until this point.

> The great lie is that we are just these alone individuals. We are individuals but we carry with us the hope, the dreams, the passions, the sins, but also the great works, and the...
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Jones confirmed for Lamarckian shill.
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>>1382382
>Alex Jones
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>muh filters

Historically speaking, what is the ideological basis behind pan-turanist thought on the european continent?

By studying the ethnogenesis and pantheon/mystic pre-christian folk religion of the magyar people, it should become abundantly clear that said spiritual conceptions are heavily inspired by norse germanic cultural area.

Despite this, the pan-turanist ideologues do these incredible mental gymnastics where they somehow link all of these european archetypes and folklore traditions to some asian steppe tribes in bumfuck nowhere somewhere behind the urals. And...
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>>1382286
Pan-anything is a fucking meme, mostly used as a basis for imperialism.
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>>1382306
Yes but why would hungarians want to imperialize some godforsaken steppe place in the urals thousands of kilometres away? That's what i really don't get at all when it comes to pan-turanism
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>>1382313
because "make WEWUZ great again"

linguistic connection between hungarian and turkic languages is indisputable

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