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The Tokugawa shogunate saw a long period of isolation and progress in terms of culture and civic administration.

The Toyotomi wanted to invade China and Korea.

But how would things have been if other clans had complete control over Japan?

How different would Japanese history be if say, clans like the Oda, the Takeda, the Mori or the Shimizu managed to win the Sengoku Jidai and establish their own shogunate? What decisions, actions and reforms would each of those great clans take?
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>>930445
thats impossible to say, faggot

Even with Nobunaga so close to conquering Japan before he was backstabbed we have no way of knowing what he would have done after he did so.

Even less so with other great clans since they rarely showed that much foresight, and its even more silly to assume that the heirs of the current ruler would take a unified country in the same direction as their predecessor.
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Ah yes, who could forget the great clan of Portugal.
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Shimazu would've instantly made japan into what the meiji empire was. Seeing as the satsuma province was where the emperor gained most of his support. And most of the high ranking imperial officers in the Bõshin War were shimazu samurai

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>Wake up tomorrow
>You're Hadrian

What do?
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>>930430
Build a huge wall to block off the Picts from the rest of Britannia
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>>930430
Take a nice morning piss with my tiny baby dick
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Fuck the shit out of Antinous.
Keep him away from rivers and protected by loyal eunuchs.
Gay death doesn't happen until age 30, I'll be long dead by then.

What caused the Mycenaean collapse
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>>930119
Sea Peoples.
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Boat peoples most like
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>>930119
The Jews.

So was this a complete US propaganda film? I liked the movie, but, if you step back and think about it, the entire movie is the glorification of a failed US operation.

Also what are some legitimate hidden propaganda films today? The Green Beret, IP man, and Braveheart come to mind.
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>It's a "Everything that is ever depicted in media is intended to glorify it, and this is inherently bad" thread

>>>/pol/
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>>929946
I never said that nor I am promoting /pol/ cause. I know media always has a direction, but some are blatantly used to promote propaganda, a government agenda.
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>>929907

any movie made with the express collaboration of the armed forces is propaganda, since they won't collaborate unless the message is reasonably pro military and nationalistic. the US armed forces are famed for this, but i suspect any armed services whose tanks n' shit have been asked for by a production company will be equally keen to see a script and veto any anti-military and/or subversive messages before allowing collaboration. the only exception i can think of offhand was the phillipines and their collaboration...
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Hey guys I have this annoying paper I have to write. I have to choose a historical event and write about it using only primary sources from the period of the event. And the event has to be short like a week long or less. And it can only be something after the French Revolution.
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September Massacres.
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>>929761
Sorry it annoys you

I don't have any history papers to write, myself
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Paris Commune

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How the fuck did anyone get up here let alone build a church?
What do you guys know about Katskhi?
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>>929725
Religion gives you wings.

Just like how a bunch of Chinese Taoists & Buddhist Monks thought this was a good idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsGC0lZ-5g8
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>>929760
How did they get the wooden bridge there in the first place?
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>>929799
Think of it like minecraft

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What's your opinion on Dan Carlin? Is he a meme historian or is it actually good?
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He's not a historian
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This again?
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Some people say... Dan Carlin... is not a real HISTORIAN. I want you to think about that for a minute folks.

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I need some facts that portray Cherokee Indians in a negative light for a rebuttal I'm forming. Any notes for me?
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>>928892
Define negative

According to the standards of modern western sensibilities, old fashioned western sensibilities, or cherokee sensibilities?
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>>928892
>facts that portray Cherokee Indians in a negative light
Then they're not facts
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>>928928
In all cases they seem to be based af with thier fashion sense desu

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Am I dumb? I honestly, earnestly have tried to force my way through Sein und Zeit, but I cannot comprehend the majority of it.
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>>928738
There's nothing to comprehend there. Academic philosophers want tenure. They don't produce anything and seek to suck the wealth out of the more productive members of society via public jobs. They need to write in an obscure fashion in order to hide from society the paucity and vacuousness of their ideas, otherwise society might begin to question why do we pay them a salary int he first place, instead of having them do something more useful and dignified such as flipping burguers or lifting and carrying stones.
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>German philosophers
>French philosophers

Poseurs. Just read Wittgenstein.
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>>928835
>>928858
Autists detected

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Why did the Assyrian civilisation collapse?
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Babylonians conquered them.
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>>928528
jews
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>>928530
It was actually a coalition of Babylonian and Median armies that toppled the Assyrians.

>>928528
Too oppressive, extremely heavy handed policies even by the general standards of the Near East at the time. Uprisings, rebellions, and revolts were a constant thing across the territories and provinces of their empire that continued to strain their manpower.

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To what degree does capitalism influence out sexual mores? Could it be said that government austerity programs lead to a breakdown in traditional structures, allowing for commercialist views of sex as a disposable commodity to arise?

Just compare the purely hedonistic sexual dynamics of the 80s to the attitudes of the 1960s. While both eras saw a culture that celebrated promiscuity, in the 60s it happened in the name of love, as hippie communes saw sex as not simple hedonism, but a means for procreation and human connection. In the 80s, the emotional value of sex had...
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Bumping for interest
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>>928380
The Sexual Revolution happened due to the World Wars creating a lose of faith in Traditions and The Wealth that the American People enjoyed during the 1950's

Also because Protestant men are promiscuous morons which eventually influenced their women
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>>928380

Not bad O.P., but the commodification of sex goes back to prehistory. Even penguins will trade shiny rocks for sexual favours. I don't think the commodification of sexuality is unique to capitalism, communism, or any other type of social-political-economic order.

Personally I lament the loss of actual human relations through digital media though, the brothel beats pornhub.com any day of the week.

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Why was Song Dynasty China so GOAT?
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>>927880
>Song Dynasty
>It's a Song Army gets reckd/successful general gets executed/barbarian invaders bribed off episode.
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>>927880
Why are Chinese people so ethnocentric?
They are worse than Jews who think they are Gods chosen people.
Nothing against Jews, that's really what Jews think.
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>>927887
>Ethnocentric.
>Civilization that accepted anyone who subscribed to Chinese culture as "Chinese." even if he was a red-haired Iranic cunt.
T. Turkic General in Chinese army who totally wont betray you.

>"There exists another history, more absurd [ridicule] than the history of Rome since the time of Tacitus: it is the history of Byzantium. This worthless collection contains nothing but declamations and miracles. It is a disgrace to the human mind."
He can't keep getting away with this
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Constantinople > Rome
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>>927701
Fourth Crusade did nothing wrong
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He's right though, the Byzantines are the biggest joke of an "empire" ever.

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Redpill me on Quetzalcoatl? He was described as a bearded white man who taught the Aztecs many things? Did whites influence many cultures that we did not know they had? I also read about blonde haired people in Peru I think.
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HOL UP NIGGA SO U BE SAYIN WE WUZ ENLIGHTENING THE NEW WORLD AND SHIT????!?
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>>927137
*spreads smallpox*
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>>927131

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Ignoring capitalism and class based societies, how would a fascist and communist state work? By assuming the economic model of communism while having the nationalistic and complete loyalty to the state and it's leader?

Pic mostly related.
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Proper communism doesn't have a state.
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>>936662
And a proper economy doesn't exist without a state.
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>>936580
Fascism runs on aggressive expansion until it no longer has other countries to make war against, or exhausts all man-power via war and genocide, whichever comes first.

There is no state in communism, people simply freely associate with each other without the economic having a place in that association.

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