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Why was Lee so well loved and respected by both sides in the American Civil War?

He betrayed the Union and failed the Confederacy. I'm not diminishing the military accomplishments he did have, but I don't get why the generals fighting against him thought so well of him while the men fighting for him loved him like a grandfather.

Brit here, so please be gentle if my analysis of the ACW is off.
I saw this blurb and it inspired me to make this thread:
> After President Dwight D. Eisenhower revealed on national television that...
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>>939485

My understanding is that he served the Confederacy purely out of loyalty to Virginia rather than ideological affinity to the CSA, so he's seen as more of a tragic hero than a villain.
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>No one put greater stock in American manhood than Theodore Roosevelt, who, with characteristic restraint, pronounced Lee “the very greatest of all the great captains that the English-speaking peoples have brought forth” and declared that his dignified acceptance of defeat helped “build the wonderful and mighty triumph of our national life, in which all his countrymen, north and south, share.” A generation later, as readers devoured Douglas Southall Freeman’s adoring four-volume biography of Lee, another President Roosevelt would simply laud...
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>>939485
>He betrayed the Union and failed the Confederacy

Please tell me which side invaded the other side again?

Also, the Confederacy was pretty much a lost cause to begin with. The sheer manpower and industrial power of the North almost ensured a Union win even before the war started. It's amazing that Lee not only beat the North regularly, most of the times with vastly inferior numbers and resources, but was actually at one point in a position to take Washington and possibly...
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What kind of religion did the Nazis have?
>Was it Catholicism, Protestantism or Paganism?
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>>938970
Religion wasn't really a big part of Nazism. Hitler sometimes used it as a tool, that's all.
>paganism
Certainly not. Most Nazis were either raised Catholic or Protestant.
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Hitler = Catholic or lapsed Catholic
Göring = Lutheran
Himmler, Bormann = Pagans
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>>938970
National socialism was a secular religion by and of itself. It used religious terminology and ritual. It had relics like the Blutfahne It transcendentalized the idea of race to stand in for a deity.

While it did use actual religion, it was purely as a means to an end.

Pagan revival was sorta kinda big in certain circles, mostly those earlier associated with ariosophy and volkism, but it would never have caught on with the larger masses. If it lasted longer they'd seek to "aryanize" Christianity,...
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Any Slovenians on here that could answer a question of mine.

Is this guy any easier to understand when he speaks Slovenian?
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[sniffs in Slovenian]
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>>938790
The sniffing and shirt tugging is a nervous tick and I'm pretty sure the 'sh' instead of 's' is just an indiosyncracy of his speech, although I'm not a Slovene

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Historical figures that did it all and got away with everything.
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>>938782
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>>938782
Why were the High Ranking Nazis such deformed faggots?
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>>938797
I don't see anything deformed about him.

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How might the Ottoman Empire have survived WWI?

Was there any way to stay out?
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>>938760
M8 it was already being dismantled by the Young T*rks in 1910's.

Though they weren't letting the Middle East go though.
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Isn't there a risk it would just have been invaded by Russia or some other colonial power because of "Muh opreesed Christian breathern!"?
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>surviving ottoman empire

why would you even want that. post lausanne turkish republics was the best outcome for turkey compared to others after WW1. they regained eastern thrace and istanbul and some other part in the east.

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Why do so many think Germany could still win the wat late 1918?
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>>938552
Well that maps says September, do I suppose that is the time you are referring to. During September the only people who really believed there was still a chance were the Kaiser and some members of the German public, that's really it.
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>>938552
>muh stab in the back
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>>938552
>Why do so many think Germany could still win the wat late 1918?
Because they are unaware of the absolutely shambolic state of German supplies, logistics, manpower and homefront, they are unaware the German gains came at an extreme cost to their best units that their armies could not afford, they are unaware that the German gains were more often than not territories only lightly defended and given up on purpose by the Allies and containing few if any objectives of value.

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How can any American citizen claim to support/embrace nationalism when the country itself is founded upon immigrants and diversity?

That is, if nationalism is about preserving a certain cultural identity, how does that work when the country itself is based on various cultures and ethnicities to begin with?
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You must never have read a high school politics textbook.

There are two types of nationalism, inclusive and exclusive nationalism.

Nationalism in countries like Japan is exclusive nationalism, which is ethnicity based. Even if you live there all your life, if you weren't born as an ethnic Japanese, you will never be truly accepted as Japanese.

Nationalism in nations like the United States is inclusive, civic, nationalism. The nation is not an ethnic one, but one based off shared ideals. As long as you pledge allegiance to the US flag, believe in the...
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>>938360
>>938372
The irony is OP posted a picture of inclusive nationalism.
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>>938360
Nationalism isn't necessarily ethnic. The most basic trait of nationalism is the belief in the right of a political unity of people to self govern - the self-determination of nations.
Plenty of enlightenment authors saw nations as groups based solely on a conscious choice of their members. Then you had several later, more right-wing nationalist authors who despite upholding the ethnic unity, still claimed that national identity was a "daily plebiscite" where a person would decide on their identity.
Then...
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4chan seems to conflate Ashkenazim and Sephardim as the only Jewish community out there so let's change that.

ITT: We post Jewish communities around the world, by Jewish I mean those either of Jewish ancestry and/or those who profess and practice Judaism (NOT messianic, Fringe theory "ancient Hebrew descendants" or Black Hebrew Israelites).

I'll start.

Kaifeng Jews of China, the only surviving but certainly not the first Chinese Jewish community
>During the late Tang and early Song, China was in turmoil. Buddhist...
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>The Bene Israel believe that their forefathers arrived in India before the destruction of the second temple. The accepted version is that their forefathers were sailing in a commercial ship from the Land of Israel to India. The ship wrecked near the coast of Konkan. From the ship survived 14 people, seven men and seven women. They swam towards the land and arrived at the village called Navgaon. All their belongings drowned in the sea. The dead bodies of the others from the ship were buried in...
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>>938271
>Medieval Arab writers ascribed the ancestry of the Berbers to *Goliath the Philistine and maintained their Canaanite origin. The Phoenician colonization of Africa, the long Carthaginian domination, and the survival of Punic, a language closely related to Hebrew, supported these legends which spread among the Berbers themselves. Similar tales are found in the writings of Greek and Latin authors and in the Talmud which spread the legend that the Canaanites immigrated of their own free will to North...
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One of y'all Nigga better post some shit because I don't want to post my own group :n(

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What would a world be like without the French Revolution? Who would be the major players in the world?
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It would be the exact same because fuck the French fuck them they're useless dumb frogs
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>>937874
France would still be an absolutist shithole. Lafayette should've been less of a fuck up and pushed harder.
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Kind of depends on the quality of French kings, the French Revolution itself happened because of how weak Louis XVI was.

Assuming no fuckups of that sort, there's no reason France couldn't have maintained itself as the European hegemonic power for longer as it had been since the 1600s. Beyond that alt history is pretty pointless.

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How did he heal Alexei?
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with the power of his massive dick
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>>937788
heard some dumb shit from my great grandmother that Rasputin probably practiced as a midwife or OBGYN equivalent.

I never paid much attention to her, but it would make sense how intimate he was with treating hemophilia, using the same kind of blood thickeners (tranexamic acid) that were given to women with heavy flows or cervical bleeding after birth.

Maybe you can derive more out of that, but it at least gives you a start.
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>>937963
Well why did it take so long to kill him

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Why did they split in 1099?

Will they be able to ever come together again?

Both seem great(I'm catholic) but a lot of my dad's family is Orthodox since I'm Russian.
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>thread about Christian sects

Dis gon b gud
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>>937087
HERETICS HERETICS THEY'RE ALL HERETICS DEUS VULT
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>>937095
Subhuman Protestant

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Was freedom of Media or Press the weakness of Western Democracy ? It was being exploited and used as pawns by Totalitarian or Communist regimes, several times in the past, most notable is VN war... to create internal strifes in Democractic countries, meanwhile the Commies are pretty much immune, they could easily suppres them.
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it's not freedom of speech if there are specific censors just for war

commies are not immune from internal strife from external war
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>>936908
No, because it keeps the government from manipulating public opinion to a retarded degree. Also understanding foreign perspectives is a plus.
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>>936908
and that's why no totalitarian governments ever collapsed the end

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Post your favourite in-battle paintings.
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>>936822
Not really "in-battle" but I like this
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easily my favorite
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Waterloo paintings are pretty good

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Was Engelbert Dollfuss the most pathetic dictator in history?

>Manlet
>Assassinated
>His country was annexed by Nazis
>Retarded ideology forgotten about
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>>936420
No, that place is forever reserved for Papadopoulos and his colonel buddies.
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>Blame jews for losing against the whole world
>Failed as an artist
>tried to escape Austrian conscription
>caught, judged as to weak to join military
> start another war agains the whole world
>blame the german people for losing against the whole world
>suicide
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>>938570
>Invades Soviet Union, one of the reasons is fear of Eastern Europe being invaded by them
>War ends with most of Eastern Europe being part of the USSR, and T-34s rolling through Berlin

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share this if you would ask him what’s wrong.
like if you would wipe away his tears.
keep scrolling if you would ignore him
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sent:)
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>>936344
Why are you sniffing, cutie pie?
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>>936344
He looks like a fat neckbearded neet
Complete with the dark circles

Someone needs to give him a makeover

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