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On this topic i want to discuss about some /his/torical events, periods or empires normies in western countries (Europe, Murica, Colonies) have no utter and absolute idea about.

We also discuss why this is the case, being it education, political correctness or whatever the case

Ill start with my favourite:

The Diadochi and Hellenistic period, most normies know only that "Alexander conquered Persia and stopped in India" but are completely oblivious of the absolutely important Hellenistic period afterwards which allowed the rise of ROMA, stoic philosophies...
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In my country we learned about the Hellenistic period, almost as much as about Alexander, maybe even more...
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>>1082548
You greek? or from any of related countries?

I guess if your country is related to an historical event, teachers are much more likely to teach about it plain simple.

For example, as a Chilean, as everyone on this forum, i got a shitload of info of national history. maybe even 75% of history in school.

Yet we still had world history, learning from prehistoric migrations till modern geopolitcs (aka the Pax Americana) and never heard about the diadochis and hellenistic period (and many other subjects)...
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>He didn't learn about the Ghaznivid Empire, or the Tui Tonga Empire, or Couto Mixto.

How does it feel to have spent your youth going to pleb schools?

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dear anon,

you made a post about adam curtis in a documentary thread, like a week ago on here. i had no idea who he was, never seen any of his work. i've been binge watching pandoras box and all watched over by machines of loving grace for days now and it's been absolutely amazing, blissful. i adore his style, i love the quality interviews, the use of stock fotos, old archive material.. it's just fantastic.

with every day i feel 4chan is getting more shit, with every day i find myself posting less, lurking more, losing interest.. seeing the same...
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>>1082297

all of the pandora's box series is on YouTube. all of the watched over by machines.. is on vimeo.

lately i've been watching a lot of wes cecil's lectures on philosophy, they're sometimes a Little Goofy but generally very enjoyable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSJnEFEtGJc

in Addition to that i enroll in online Courses and never end up finishing them. it's fun, you should try it. huge Sortiment, including ivy league universities:

coursera.org
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>>1082311

furthermore, the act of killing is a movie/documentary definitely worth watching, if just for the style. finding a stream shouldn't be hard.

that's it (for now) from my side.
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quality 58:58 of your time desu senpai senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc

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What do we know about swimming throughout history? Who were some notable figures who swam?

I know Charlemagne was known to swim laps in his pool, which is really cool because Europeans forgot how to swim at some point.
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>>1082206

About the only thing I can remember off the top of my head is that in a discussion in the Gemara of the things a father needs to do for his son in order to be a proper parent, there's a split among the Rabbis whether or not teaching him to swim should be counted as minimum acceptable practice.
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>>1082206
The British Imperial navy would only accept recruits who could not swim, because those would defend the ships for longer.
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In the Netherlands you learn to swim at school.

The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of William Shakespeare.

This correlates with how creation began as random mutations that formed life by pure chance.

The relevance of the theorem is questionable—the probability of a universe full of monkeys typing a complete work such as Shakespeare's Hamlet is so tiny that the chance of it occurring during a period of time hundreds of thousands of orders of magnitude...
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>>1082048
That's assuming that it's as likely for life to arise as the monkey's typing out all of Shakespeare. It isn't. Life is far more likely.

Abiogenesis is still stupid as hell, but it's definitely more likely than all of hamlet being typed by a monkey pressing keys at random.
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>>1082071
Hell, life is probably more likely to arise from non-life in the correct environment than a monkey typing the two paragraphs in the post I quoted.
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OP you just dont understand probability

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I hate being a part of this "I'm better than you" patrician-pleb dichotomy, but sometimes I just need to vent.

Does anyone else get extremely frustrated that the majority of people are awful interlocutors? I know I probably shouldn't, but sometimes it's very easy to get into debates with people who have no idea how to debate. Either they don't take it seriously, flatly reject reasoned arguments, or reply with something along the lines of "well we all have our own opinions man"/"i don't agree". It especially pisses...
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>not being an elitist
Some people are just peasants, brah.
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I fucking hate idiots
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>>1081985
That's just like, your opinion, man.

Got a report due on this Thursday. Have not started to read it. How screwed am I?
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>>1081869
stop fucking around
go read it
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>>1081869
It's 544, why the hell did you wait this long? Even if you read 200 pages a day, you'd still only have like half a day to get it done.
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>>1081869
In 2-5 hours, you can probably finish 75-150 pages. If you're fine with a whole day of non-stop reading. Depending on the person and the report, it should, more or less, take a day to write a "mediocre" report.

Get to it, faggot.

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Practising Sufi here. AMA.

Any others out there?
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>>1081665
Which tariqa?
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>>1081670

Chisti-Qadiriya.
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Do you have a job? Does zikr interfere with it?

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"Blood alone moves the wheels of history."
by il duce or Benito Mussolini..
Is this statement true? Is history written by war? or is war only a side effect and for example medieval marriages between ruling houses are more of a moving wheel? Or something totally different like diplomatics? i mean without the 2. world war no post war europe with all of the new borders.
So please discuss!
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Not at all. Wars often mark sharp transitions, but more often than not they are inevitable side effects of economic and social trends, and have predictable outcomes as well. There are certainly exceptions to that, but they are just that: exceptions.
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>>1081494
Wars come, wars go. The end result is that some monkeys get killed, the arbitrary lines drawn by packs of moneys change a bit and some people end up paying taxes to another group of head monkeys who might spend more of it on roads and bridges or parties and whores than their previous.

However a few technically minded people come together, build a new machine to (for example) better pump out mines and in a few decades the world is a different place.
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>>1082026
remind me why most of the machines are built ?

oh yeah, to win war

I just bought it yesterday, a good friend of mine recommended it.
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>>1081344
It's a really great book, I was surprised how organized and wealthy they Moors were. The had a prosperous and powerful kingdom in Spain. This book will open your eyes to the pain and tribulations that they went through by the hands of the jealous and fearful Spaniards.
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The Smoors in Spain.
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>>1081384
This is better:
>In 1527, the Castilian conquistador Pánfilo de Narváez and a crew of 600 men sailed from Spain to the Gulf Coast of the United States to claim “La Florida” for the Spanish crown. Laila Lalami recounts the voyage — and its brutal aftermath — in her new novel, “The Moor’s Account,” from the perspective of Estebanico, a Moroccan slave of one of the explorers. It’s a fictional memoir, told in a controlled voice that feels at once historical and contemporary,...
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I wish we had a Religion board.
It's interesting to discuss world religions, past and current.

Discuss religions ITT
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How about those religions?
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Christianity came from Judaism
Where did Judaism come from? How did it spawn?
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>>1081297
Canaanite paganism

What are some good books on the discovery and exploration/colonization of the new world?
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>>1081057
There is a few good ones, I prefer first person accounts, in Mexico the Diaz del Castillo journal is exelent for example, truly a must if you like the theme. Then depending of what do you prefer to learn (is a very extense subject after all) be it the military or native believes/folklore, cuisine... I'm sure it will be plenty of books about it if you speak Spanish or Portuguese.
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>>1081085
Is it on the internet archive for free?
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>>1081096
I'm sure you will find it with ease, if not torrent it.

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When, where, and why did prostitution begin to be outlawed in the west?
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Last Tuesday, in the city.
Got tired of it i guess.
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I would assume Victorian values have a lot to do with it.
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>>1081053
In the US it basically started with Prohibition and women's suffrage movements. Not that this really matters though, most major cities here have easily accessed prostitutes. The only thing illegality has done is drive up the price.

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So why did they wear these puffy wigs? Were they gay?
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Because people were dirty as fuck and didn't/couldn't keep their natural hair clean or their dicks out of disease incubating vaginias.
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Why do men today wear ties?
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>>1081045
I've asked myself that so many times.

I'm a 21 year old doing a modern history degree and i'm due to finish in September. What kind of job opportunities can a history graduate look forward to? I know teaching is a sure way forward but what other opportunities are there?
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>>1080975
>What kind of job opportunities can a history graduate look forward to?
>job opportunities
>history graduate
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Owning a deli
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>>1080975
McDonalds Drive-thru, they will hire you on the spot.


But for real though put yourself out there and find out, maybe become a historian in a specific field that you find interesting? Museum curator, I don't know.

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When people in your country, or your ethnic group, hearken back to 'the good ol' days', which time period are they referring to?
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1945-1968
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>>1080952
or like 1950-1970, 1980-2000, depending on generation and politics.

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