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Why do you faggots love to discuss WW1 so much?

I read about WW1 and feel absolutely nothing because all those deaths were pointless and all the real happenings were in WW2. I don't know why it is so popular here, its like gushing over Windows 2000 even though XP is widely regarded as the peak of the Windows OS and answered all the problems raised as early as Windows 98. Or talking about how perfect the marbling looked on a slab of chuck before it was turned into hamburger. Its irrelevant because of what became of it.

Clearly the horrors of mechanized warfare...
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>>1232271
Ive seen 4 ww2 threads today
Havent seen a ww1 yet this week

Also it kinda spelled the end of monarchy in a lot of places and marked the deaths of historic empires
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>>1232271
How to trivialize periods of history with asinine comparisons in one post
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> I read about WW1 and feel absolutely nothing because all those deaths were pointless
That's the most amazing thing about WW1. Tens of thousands of men dying just to take few meters of land, no bad side, no great purpose, just endless fighting over status quo.

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Are there any good books about the Chinese navy and their ships in the Age of Sail? I know the Chinese never placed too much importance on their navy, with a heavy focus on land trade and deterring Japanese pirates at the most, but you'd think after the West came in with their Ships of the Line, they might have had something.

Unfortunately, I can only find info on Chinese Junks which are pretty vague.
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>>1232049
Junks are the pinnacle of sail
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>>1232136
How do you pronounce junks in Chinese?
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>>1232141
ching chong

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Historically, religious people have been able to interpret everything and the opposite out of their religious texts. So far, the only way to make people agree on a specific interpretation was violence (by the state or by forces outside of the state).

Without a monopoly on violence you get thousands of sects and cults who can't agree on a single thing and, worst case scenario like after the west bombed the governments of Hussein, Gaddafi away, kill each other because of it.

This is why religious people always need violence (either by the state who punished...
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>christianity green
>islam yellow

triggered
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>>1232025
I know Islam should be green but what colour should Christianity be?
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>>1232032
red for blood

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What's your perspective of history and progress /his/?
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Neither bad nor good, but certainly impressive.
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>humans are largely incapable of being functional in groups of more than 100 people
>humans are now organized in groups consisting of hundreds of millions of individuals
>it is likely that war, ethnic hatred, religious fundamentalism, and other manifestations of this fact will continue for quite some time
>it seems likely that the political development of global civilization will stabilize with either all totalitarian states or all liberal democracies with strict rule of law, as these are the most stable forms of government
>China delenda est
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"Progress" has always made things worse.

Tribalism > Traditionalism > Monarchy > Democracy > Collectivism

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Howdy Gaelic Servants.

Check it out, I'm made of hostages.

T. Niall
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It is amazing indeed. Political hostages are a very valuable commodity. You are very powerful, and I have no choice but to submit to my servile instincts and become your vassal. I totally didn't have any plans for Kingship, by the way.
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I hate Irishmen who disagree with me but I hate the British even more.
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>>1232288
You got that exactly wrong.

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What is power, who has power and how much does the Pope have?
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>>1231672
>What is power

Something no true Christian should seek.

>how much does the Pope have?

He has the supreme whore-power of Babylon.
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Power is the rate of work
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>>1231676
When the Whore falls we read, "‘Rejoice over her, O heaven! Rejoice, saints and apostles and prophets! God has judged her for the way she treated you’. . . . In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints, and of all who have been killed on the earth" (18:20, 24). This shows that the Whore persecuted not just Christians, but apostles and prophets. Apostles existed only in the first century, since one of the requirements for being an apostle was seeing the risen Christ (1 Cor. 9:1). Prophets...
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>ugh history is the least important (core) subject
>omg its so boring itll never make me money either
>why do I need to know this? Ill never use it
>who cares about the past all that matters is the present and the future

How do you respond to this? Or "history is useless to know" in general
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pic related
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>get rich
>pay attractive women to fellate you

You will not be punished for your anger. You will be punished by it.
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it is useless. knowing the past doesn't mean anyone will go out of their way to repeat it. with that said, it's a mark of the ignorant to know nothing about history.

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If major reforms were carried out in the 2nd century and the Roman Empire survived much longer in its 2nd century glory than it did, would there be a chance of industrialization occurring before 1000 AD?
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Nice autism.
It mirrors my own.
And yes.
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>>1231382
I take no shame in my autism. I frequently fantasize about visiting the city of Rome 2000 years ago and seeing how an ancient city with 1 million inhabitants looked and functioned
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>>1231353
The second part of the question is easy, because Romans would have continued to make leaps and bounds in technological advancement if the Pax Romana continued for centuries in a stable condition.

The first part is more difficult. The problems of succession, minimizing the damage caused by bad emperors, economic stability, hostile neighbors, etc. You'd have to enact perfect reforms at every level that can't be ruined by the fuckups of future generations. No civilization has managed that thus far.

All things, including empires, tend toward entropy eventually.

ITT: Give historical figures theme songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3SjCzA71eM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgkSnFoPX5M
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>>1231284
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsVlQ1jLdrE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5YNiCfWC3A

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should you be able to criticize political philosophies if you don't have a better idea?

for example, the people who continually bitch about capitalism, or neoconservatism, or enlightenment ideals, without any alternative. is just arguing against something without a way to make it better (or replace it entirely) just a waste of time?
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Yes, absolutely. Seeing the faults in something is an important step to building better things.
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>>1231213
You should be allowed to, because these ideas can (and always do) have flaws that are worth criticizing. That said, providing an alternative is certainly preferable.
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That's called the Nirvana fallacy, so probably not.

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SOMEBODY HELP ME OUT OF THIS DARK CAVE, LADS
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fuck you productive class
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*lights fire behind u*
there u go lad... thatll help a bit
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>>1230910
It's better in the cave, anon. You won't like what's outside.

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throw your favorite classical works at me
[poetry, novels, quotes, paintings, sculptures, structures, music, ect.]
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plato is pretty fun, particularly the early socratic stuff

socrates is such a dick
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>>1230802
oh my god, that tune is beautiful.

I like Liebestraum, if I must pick a favorite composition.

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>cicero was an anarchist
based
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>>1230672
You dont have to be an anarchist to see that laws and regulations often benefit those with power rather than bind them
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>>1230725
you do if you want to be consistent
people stay away from being called anarchists just because it has edgy connotations though

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I SHED BLOOD OF SAXON MEN!
I SHED THE BLOOD OF THE SAXON MEN!
I SHED THE BLOOD OF THE SAXON MEN!
I SHED THE BLOOD OF THE SAXON MEN!
I SHED IT AT VERDEN!
I SHED THE BLOOD OF THE SAXON MEN!
I SHED THE BLOOD OF FOUR THOUSAND SAXON MEN!
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No repeat threads.
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>>1230639
saxon detected
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>>1230632

Jutes are the fuckin master race FUCCBOI

Picts come second imo

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Can anyone tell me about the interactions between celts, Germans and Slavs with the Roman Empire? The Romans describe the germanics as being of average build yet hardy and the celts as tall, strong and terrifying yet they beat the celts in war and not the germanics, why is this? What kind of systems, traits and armour did they all have? Why is there such a lack of sources about slavs, it seems that such a prominent group of people today were virtually irrelevant back then. Very interesting point in history I think.
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>>1230485
Definitely one of the most interesting periods in history.
Its important to point out that there were many different sub groups of germanic peoples. Over the course of 200-300 years the Romans could occasionally destroy a group, such as the Marcomanni and new germanic identities would emerge such as the chamavi, bructeri, franks, alamannii, etc.
Check out Peter Heather's Empires and Barbarians or Patrick Geary's Before France and Germany.
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>>1230485
>Why is there such a lack of sources about slavs,...

Slavs came into contact with the Roman Empire as late as the 6th century.

The Slavs under name of the Antes and the Sclaveni make their first appearance in Byzantine records in the early 6th century. Byzantine historiographers under Justinian I (527–565), such as Procopius of Caesarea, Jordanes and Theophylact Simocatta describe tribes of these names emerging from the area of the Carpathian Mountains, the lower Danube...
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>>1230675

Very interesting stuff I appreciate your reply, do you know much about the wends?

>>1230549

Will read these books, a great point of interest

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